07-18-2012, 07:02 PM
(07-18-2012, 05:52 PM)ShinAr Wrote:(07-18-2012, 10:48 AM)Siren Wrote: The Original Thought is Love. Love undistorted; Universal Love at its purest. It is the Logos, Verbum, Theos—the Voice. It is motion, kinetic, vibration, sound, energy. It is INTELLIGENT (sentient, conscious, alive, aware) ENERGY. It is the FOCUS/Thought/Love that ideates, dreams, imagines, architects, designs, organizes, animates, articulates, creates, forms and transforms (constructs/destructs) EVERYTHING that is manifest, was manifest or will ever be manifest (i.e. the visible "stuff"—or light/matter). It is the very life-force, prana, ki (chi), psi that pulsates, vibrates through, and animates all things, all beings, all foci of consciousness (sub-Logoi/co-Creators) across all levels, dimensions, densities or vibratory spectra of Creation/Kosmos. It is electromagnetism, it is gravity, it binds/unbinds all things: radiation/absorption, exhalation/inhalation, repulsion/attraction—these being the eternal rhytms of the Creator/Creation, flowing ever outwards and inwards. It is the Heart and Heartbeat of Creation; the Breath of Life, from whence everything unfolds and folds back into, infinitely. It is termination/origination point. It is the Original Thought. It is Love.
How do you define love Siren?
I just did. All the various synonyms I employed refer to the same one concept. I seek to synthesize. There are no words to describe the Original Thought/Love for it is truly ineffable; yet the words I used were carefully chosen, and they are the closest approximations I can find to describe/define Love.
Quote:I think before we suggest that the First Thought was love, we should disable to semantic barrier by defining it.
I agree. And my attempt to define Love has already been offered. I kindly ask you to re-read what I just stated in the original definition, otherwise I would be repeating myself by saying the same thing.
Quote:In my thinking why would the First Thought of the Creator have anything to do with love? There was nothing to profess love toward. Nothing existed besides it, if it was the first of all things to follow.
Love is less an act than a BEING in itself. The Logos/Thought didn't love Itself, it IS Love. Then you, as I, within the body (Creation/Kosmos) of the Logos/Though/Love, as individuated foci of Love/consciousness, are gradually experiencing/realizing the One Love Which We Are. Without the Creation this would not be possible, growth, evolution, progress, experience, none of this would be possible.
Quote:Just curious as to what you thought was being 'loved' in the instant of creation?
Love was/is/ever will be Love. I do apologize Shin'Ar, but I cannot simplify it any further. Love is the BEING driving the Creation, the LIFE/Consciousness that runs through all beings, animate and inanimate, as they are called. In that sense, all entities are holographic portions/fragments of the One Love gradually realizing they are the One Love in its ENTIRETY. Again, this is the purpose of the Creation/evolution.
Quote:There are two ways to consider love; as a verb where love is the act of loving. Or as a manifestation of an action performed out of a loving attitude. It seems that you might be speaking of the latter.
I reiterate, Love is less an act than a BEING in itself.
I would perhaps simply suggest that there are VARIOUS degrees of understanding/experiencing Love. Simply put: the higher/inner the density, the more and more the evolving entity may grasp/understand/experience, or realize or partake of, the Original Thought/Love (for the higher/inner you are, in a manner of speaking, the "closer" you are to It; i.e. you are be-coming/realizing the Original Thought that you already are).
Just take a look at this planet's 3rd density; you will see "love" experienced/understood in a vast variety of different ways. One can love his/her favorite sports team or his/her brand new yellow corvette. One can love a painting or a film or work of art. One can love an object, an idea or another entity. It is all Love (in varying degrees of understanding, purity and intensity): the One Love experiencing Itself. That is why even those entities labeled as "evil" are acting out of Love, for they ARE Love themselves. Free-will also allows the possibility/opportunity of rejecting/denying/ignoring your very own truth of BEING, which is Love. There is no better or worse, there are just gradients of experiencing/knowing Love. This is what the Creation is about, this is the purpose of Creation: experience. Yet the One Original Love remains ever the same.
This Love I speak of is Love in its pure, undistorted essence, in the eternal state of alpha/omega, pre-Creation and post-Creation. EVERYTHING in the Creation is the experience of evolution; or in other words: the One Thought/Love experiencing itself through the manifesting medium we call light, in its various rates of vibration, or densities of awareness.
Yet behind it all, there is is this One Original Though experiencing Itself.
Quote:But again if there was nothing to love, that why would the First Thought be love?
Because Love IS. I cannot overstate the simplicity of this.
Quote:It seems to me the it is more likely that the First Thought would have been one of awareness of Being. "I am, but what am I?"
And that is Love. It is the FOCUSED Intelligence/Consciousness/Sentience of the Void/Plenum of Infinity into action (i.e. kinetic). This then results in the so-called Creation, through which the One Love experiences itself.
(07-18-2012, 05:47 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Primal co-creator, Love. If Love is a primal co-creator, that I would surmise that Light is also a primal co-creator.
The same way the BODY is the creature/creation of the MIND, so too, is the Creation/Kosmos the creation/body of the Logos/Love/THOUGHT, which you may also call the Original Mind.
It may help to understand the Creation is the light, and the Creator the Love that forms this light (i.e. light is the manifestation/reflection of Love). Love clothes itself in this light (the Creation), within which consciousness/Love may be experienced in a gradual fashion (i.e. evolution).
The Source of one Logos/Love/Thought is the same Source of ALL Logoi: Infinite Potential. The Logos is simply a particular FOCUS/Thought of Infinity focused into a particular direction of experiencing.
Just gaze at the starry sky at night. All the foci of light you see are sub-Logoi (their light being the manifestation of their beingness as Thoughts/Logoi), yet beneath them all there is that infinite void/plenum of infinite space. You can see stellar bodies are born and die. Through light we experience temporality, change, growth, transformation. Light is the only material of Creation, and it is malleable; subject to change. Yet that black canvas of infinite space "beneath" the stars remains ever the same: it is Infinite Potential.
Thus, out of Khaos (the void/plenum of infinity) "sparks" Love/Theos. And this very action/kinetic generates/produces light, or the Creation/Kosmos. Thus Love is the Active Creative Principle; light is its material, or medium of experience.