Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self?

[anagogy]

As far as the dispute whether the past, present, and future simultaneously exist is concerned, I still think Ra very unambiguously states right here that they do, in fact, simultaneously exist:



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70.12 Questioner: Then what we are looking at is a long path of experience through the densities up to mid-sixth density which are a function totally of free will and result in the awareness of the higher self in mid-sixth density, but since time is illusory and there is a, shall I say, unification of time and space or an eradication of what we think of as time, then, all of this experience that results in the higher self, the cause of evolvement through the densities, is existing while the evolvement takes place, since it’s all simultaneous. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We refrain from speaking of correctness due to our understanding of the immense difficulty of absorbing the concepts of metaphysical existence. In time/space, which is precisely as much of your self as is space/time, all times are simultaneous just as, in your geography, your cities and villages are all functioning, bustling, and alive with entities going about their business at once. So it is in time/space with the self.

****Note: If in time/space, all times are simultaneous, it makes perfect sense that there would be communication from the future to the past, and vice versa. In the spirit world, there is no past or future. There is just the PRESENT, which encompasses what we, in 3rd density space/time identify as the past, present, and future.****
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And I also found this excerpt very informative:



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37.6 Questioner: In that case, we’ll go ahead with the questions we have here continuing the last session. You said that each third-density entity has an higher self in the sixth density which is moving to the mind/body/spirit complex of the entity as needed. Does this higher self also evolve in growth through the densities beginning with the first density, and does each higher self have a corresponding higher self advanced in densities beyond it?

Ra: I am Ra. To simplify this concept is our intent. The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action *before* turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.
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****Note: Ra seems to be saying here that before the 7th density being completes its journey through the densities it gives its resources of evolution to the late sixth density self -- a infinitely complex thought-form shell containing its living bank of memory and experiences. The reason I used asterisks on "before" is to point out that this indicates a movement. That is to say, the Higher Self is not stuck in mid sixth density, nor is any portion of your consciousness, it is a moving continuum of consciousness. In other-words, all parts of you are evolving. It is not just some "projection" that is based on your third density experiences to date, it is a compilation of its travels through the densities.

Earlier in this thread, there was some discussion as to what Ra meant when they said in session 70.11 "The seeming contradictions of determinism and free will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity. The higher self is the end result of all the development experienced by the mind/body/spirit complex to that point. ". I have always taken Ra to mean "to that point in sixth density". And that makes perfect sense, given all other quotes offered.

Also, I would just like to point out there would be absolutely NO reason for Ra to even bring up "the seeming contradictions of free will and determinism" if they were not, in fact, referring to time travel or communication from the future to the past. Seriously, think about this carefully.****



****What other reason would there be?**** :idea:


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Ra: This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.
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