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    Thread: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self?


    Siren

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    07-22-2012, 08:25 PM
    (07-22-2012, 04:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: If you are correct in your declaration and conclusion and it is truth, than why would one already having reached higher being see it fitting to assist its lower self to reach that which has already been acquired? If already achieved what is the purpose of such assistance?

    Why would the Creator create the Creation?

    Quote:If existence has no end and no beginning, and all is present tense, than the choice which you make in this very moment, is of no future consequence, so what would be the necessity for advice or guidance from a Higher self, when all is already done, despite any choice you might now make?

    Experience.

    Quote:If Infinity has no beginning and no end, then why do you suggest that creation is already completed? Would that not be an end?

    Because from the viewpoint of the Logos, the Creations are infinite and simultaneously beginning/ending or ending/beginning. The Logos create so that It may experience Itself through "us" (or the various foci of consciousness dancing through the Creation) in temporal and spatial configuration. Growth, experience, evolution, it all implies change, movement, vibration, kinetic, and by defect: time and space. There can be no movement in spacelesness; there can be no change in timelessness. Therefore time and space are needed to yield an experience; hence: the Creation.

    There can be no experience in an INFINITY undistorted, unconditioned, undifferentiated, boundless, formless, unborn and undying. Therefore INTELLIGENT INFINITY focuses into a particular direction for the design of a particular experience—this is the Logos/Thought/Love or Intelligent Energy—which is responsible for the ideation and architecture of a particular set of illusions—the Creation—through which It may experience Itself.

    Quote:If creation is fully completed in this present moment, and the Creator experiences only that which is already fulfilled, then not only is there no need for further guidance from higher self, but higher self has nothing to look forward to.

    The "higher self" (at 6D) looks forward to entering the violet-ray vibratory spectrum (7D) of the Creation in order to further its experience which will lead it to merging back with the Creator/Logos.

    The Creator is experiencing Itself through the Creation. The Creation will conclude, just as it has begun; and the Creator will know Itself. And this knowing shall beget a new Creation—ad infinitum.

    Quote:If creation is at an end, then infinity has an end.

    There is a slight pragmatic difference between Infinity and the Creation. Infinity is, as it implies, INFINITE; the Creation on the other hand, is cyclical in nature (i.e. it moves, rotates, vibrates, and it originates/terminates at the same point). In that sense, the Creation is temporal. However, the act of Creation is infinite.

    Quote:Above you define creation as the Breath of the Logos.

    A slight (but important) correction: the Breath of Life is Intelligent Energy (or the Logos) pulsating, vibrating, animating all the light/matter of the Creation. The Breath is not the Creation per se, but the energy/life/consciousness that runs through the Creation.

    Quote:Has your logos stopped breathing?

    Have YOU stopped breathing?

    Quote:If not, then each new breath is yet to become new vibration.

    The Breath is ongoing. This is perceived as the expansion and contraction of the Universe.




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    Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-05-2012, 07:40 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-05-2012, 08:28 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Aaron - 07-05-2012, 08:53 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by AndresOr - 07-05-2012, 06:04 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Eddie - 07-05-2012, 06:06 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-06-2012, 08:36 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Cyan - 07-07-2012, 08:39 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-07-2012, 09:03 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-06-2012, 08:48 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-06-2012, 09:18 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-06-2012, 11:03 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by AndresOr - 07-06-2012, 09:37 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-06-2012, 11:15 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by AnthroHeart - 07-06-2012, 10:42 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Cyan - 07-07-2012, 09:14 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-07-2012, 11:51 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-07-2012, 01:13 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-07-2012, 03:54 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-07-2012, 09:01 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-09-2012, 04:54 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-08-2012, 12:07 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-08-2012, 02:46 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Plenum - 07-09-2012, 04:36 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-09-2012, 06:32 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-09-2012, 08:08 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by LetGo - 07-09-2012, 09:30 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-09-2012, 09:32 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 10:24 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 10:38 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 11:08 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-10-2012, 11:13 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 11:14 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 11:22 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 11:27 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 11:32 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 11:36 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 07:20 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-10-2012, 03:12 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Plenum - 07-10-2012, 10:44 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 10:48 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-10-2012, 11:16 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kdsii - 07-10-2012, 11:20 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-10-2012, 12:23 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Plenum - 07-10-2012, 03:52 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by AnthroHeart - 07-10-2012, 05:09 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-10-2012, 05:44 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-15-2012, 06:16 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-15-2012, 11:29 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-15-2012, 01:35 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-15-2012, 02:51 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by LsavedSmeD - 07-15-2012, 09:34 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by kycahi - 07-15-2012, 02:13 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Ankh - 07-15-2012, 02:20 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-16-2012, 06:56 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-21-2012, 09:46 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Patrick - 07-21-2012, 01:17 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Cyan - 07-21-2012, 01:19 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-22-2012, 12:59 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Cyan - 07-21-2012, 10:36 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Siren - 07-22-2012, 02:23 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-22-2012, 04:06 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Siren - 07-22-2012, 08:25 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-22-2012, 05:05 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-22-2012, 07:30 PM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-23-2012, 02:13 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-23-2012, 08:57 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by anagogy - 07-24-2012, 01:46 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Siren - 07-24-2012, 06:48 AM
    RE: Did the first Higher-Self have a Higher-Self before it was a Higher-Self? - by Shin'Ar - 07-24-2012, 11:28 AM

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