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    Thread: Ghost hunting


    Shin'Ar

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    #10
    08-01-2012, 11:44 AM
    Until proven otherwise, its all speculation.

    So, in my speculating on the possibilities, applying what I speculate in other regards which become tied into this, I see a great deal of contradiction, as I always do when we tend to take speculation to extremes.

    Instead of falling into the same trap as others and trying to piece together all of the myths and manufactured imaginings, why don't we instead ask ourselves a few critical questions in this regard?

    For instance, who do we suppose first coined the thought of such a thing as a ghost? What is its origin? Where did it begin and at what point did it begin to evolve into the many various myths that surround it this day? What exactly is this thought process that we call a ghost?

    It seems to be always associated in some way with dead identities that once walked this earth alive. Meaning that they are somehow stuck in some sort of transitional phase, either deliberate or not. But what do we, as students of the metaphysical, speculate regarding the passing of life in death? Does our speculation and the information that we have built on support consideration of such speculation as ghosts?

    If we suppose that life is a continuously incarnating force, then we do suppose that there will be a transition between living and living again. But why would we consider that somehow our 'ghost' identity would haunt this living reality during that phase? And why do we suppose that it would take the form of our dead most recent temporary form? Why take any form at all if it is no longer flesh and blood?

    It is when we begin to ask logical questions, avoiding the hype and curiosity which only creates delusional confusion and contradiction, that we begin to really put the pieces into place that will denounce the myth and start to create common sense.

    Now, are people really experiencing something that is not quite physical that appears to be the ghostly apparition of a human form?

    I am sure they are experiencing something. I am also sure that many times that what they have heard in tales and myth is superimposed over that experience they are having which leads to their willing construction of an event that is subconsciously manipulated to meet the aspects of the myth, while at the same time meeting their actual experience.

    I am sure there are times when someone will actually have such a vivid experience that there will be no room for subconscious infiltration of memorized myth.

    In attempts to relay the experience the latter will always be cast off as ludicrous because it will not meet with the many myths that are common enough to gain the support of the common listeners.

    Is this not always the way with Mystery?

    That which is socially and traditionally acceptable to the masses will be more readily accepted. thus we have the common myth of the ghosts of our predecessors floating around in the shadows haunting our reality. The result of our imaginings over thousands of years of what happens to us when we die. And even the result of wiser thought processes considering the reincarnate aspects of life and death and what one's life force might experience in that transition.

    It is my speculation that it is foolish to follow myth, for the sake of myth, without any attempt at rationale at all. And when rationale is applied to the speculation, the ideas about ghosts of the dead remaining in some transition between life and new life and continuing to use the form of its most recent human identity just does not make any sense.

    In the transition form one identity of thousands, to a new identity that may or may not even become human in form, why would the life force moving through that process of being choose to retain that last form and identity?

    If it was some sort of a deliberate option of that life force, and it deliberately appears in this form for a specific purpose of revealing some information to someone it has left behind, then it appears that in thousands of years this 'between worlds' attempt has been a vast waste of time and effort which one would assume would have been abandoned long ago due to the lack of its success.


    I find no reason to consider the possibility of ghosts caught in transition between life and death any more than I have reason to consider the possibility of an old man living in a place called heaven. I have sorted out the myths from the logic and the intuition and chosen to ignore what does not deserve consideration.

    Are there aspects of our existence in which some form of energy or life force in transition between incarnations and in between material and physical interact with both realms?

    It is my understanding that there is not. based upon the many ancient teachings that suggest to us that in death the life force is no longer in synch with the physical and becomes synchronized with the metaphysical. And in the state of human reincarnation this force is relayed to a place of flame where we take our true eternal forms as light beings. This is probably the true origins of the perversions of hell.

    Other than unproven claims of ghost encounters, there is no reason for me to consider otherwise.

    True, that we cannot prove the existence of our reality as light beings either, but at least those teachings are brought to us from the ancients, and not from campfire tales testing the limits of our fears of death.

    The spirits in need of help would not be those who have moved on, it would be those who are taking present temporary forms that cannot figure out the reasons for their being here.

    The ever evolving and incarnating life force of The One and The All leaves behind its process one certain legacy that cannot be denied; memory.

    Is it more credible given what we know of fields of consciousness, stored information and experience within those fields, and memory of past events, that an apparition being observed in this reality might just be nothing more than the after image of memory continuing to manifest as it dissipates, just like the image on the blackness of the TV screen for a short time after it is shut off. Or like the after image that is burned into the blackness behind your eyelids for a brief period after you close your eyes.

    As students of the Law of One we speculate that thought becomes material. Well does this work with memory as well? Is memory not past thought process?

    When you take that after image of transitioning memory, and embellish it with our own imaginings around our traditions and myths, what you end up with is a 'ghost'.








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    Ghost hunting - by GreatSpirit - 07-31-2012, 01:28 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by BrownEye - 07-31-2012, 01:31 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Meerie - 07-31-2012, 04:26 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by kdsii - 07-31-2012, 09:47 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by GreatSpirit - 07-31-2012, 10:20 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Richard - 07-31-2012, 09:55 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by kdsii - 07-31-2012, 10:02 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by zenmaster - 08-01-2012, 10:25 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-02-2012, 10:34 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by zenmaster - 08-02-2012, 08:44 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-04-2012, 06:59 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by zenmaster - 08-04-2012, 07:06 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Richard - 07-31-2012, 12:00 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Monica - 08-08-2012, 03:22 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by AnthroHeart - 07-31-2012, 07:16 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-01-2012, 11:44 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Parsons - 08-01-2012, 05:20 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Siren - 08-04-2012, 11:24 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by BrownEye - 08-05-2012, 08:37 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Richard - 08-01-2012, 12:40 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-01-2012, 07:10 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Sagittarius - 08-01-2012, 09:38 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Spaced - 08-02-2012, 11:14 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-02-2012, 02:09 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-04-2012, 07:33 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by zenmaster - 08-05-2012, 07:44 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-05-2012, 09:48 AM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Siren - 08-05-2012, 01:21 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-05-2012, 02:00 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by zenmaster - 08-05-2012, 02:10 PM
    RE: Ghost hunting - by Shin'Ar - 08-05-2012, 06:58 PM

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