08-07-2012, 08:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-07-2012, 08:27 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(08-07-2012, 08:09 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-07-2012, 07:13 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Claims about how the body's pH affects the development and course of various disease states is largely hokum. The reason being the fact that there is a wide variance in pH across different fluids and regions of the body. What is a proper pH in one place is improper in another. Thus, I would exercise caution with respect to anybody making claims about the pH of the body as making such a claim belies the lack of understanding that the pH is not constant across all fluids and tissues.
Quote:You are correct that different fluids have different pH. Some of the doctors I work with have explained to me that when the body is overall too acidic, the areas of the body that are supposed to be acidic (stomach and vagina) are too alkaline. When the body's overall pH is neutral to slightly alkaline, those areas of the body balance out to their natural acidity.
Yes- those would be the ones I would place more stock in myself, seeing as how they demonstrate an understanding of basic physiology.
Quote:They explained the chemistry of it to me but I am unable to relay the technical explanation. But these doctors have seen this phenomenon time and time again in their clinical practices.
Right! So you know your limits of the technical knowledge. Unfortunately, this is not the case with many others.
Quote:Also, Dr. Otto Warburg won the Nobel Prize in 1931 for proving that cancer cells can thrive only in an anaerobic, acidic environment. He has never been refuted.
Hrmm. According to nobelprize.org, Dr. Warburg won the prize "for his discovery of the nature and mode of action of the respiratory enzyme".
Quote:Contrary to popular misconception, an alkalizing diet/water doesn't alkalize the entire body. Rather, it facilitates homeostasis, which means the areas that are supposed to be alkaline get alkaline, and the areas that are supposed to be acidic, get acidic.
Right. I was referring to the popular misconception.
Quote:(Another popular misconception is that acidic foods like lemons are acidifying. Not true. It's the final effect in the body that matters. Lemons have a chemical reaction in the stomach and actually help alkalize. Same with other fruits, in general.)
Yes- according to my understanding it has to do with the "ash" or residue which is left after the food has been metabolized which needs to be eliminated.
Quote:So, I disagree that it's 'hokum.' The many cancer survivors who've been healed by alkalizing would surely disagree too.
I said largely hokum, and then qualified that by pointing to those who don't understand that pH varies in different fluids and tissues, yet make claims as if it is constant.
Sorry, but I don't see an argument between us here. Sounds to me like we are largely on the same page. *shrug*
(08-07-2012, 08:11 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: The studies using synthetic antioxidant supplements did not yield the same results.
Yes, that is true. In addition, the couple of studies I am aware of that showed an increase in the incidence of certain types of cancer with antioxidant therapy also used synthetic forms of antioxidants. It's a perennial issue with supplement research, I'm afraid.