09-11-2012, 07:37 PM
I still have much reading to do here, but this thought comes to mind as I try to understand what is being said.
Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present?
It seems that you have suggested that IF we are in control of each present moment, than we are also in control of our future. but what IF we are NOt in control, for instance an even happens over which we are helpless ot control the outcome. Does that mean that, by your definition there cannot be a future in such an event?
If I apply my thought to your explanations, it seems to make more sense to me and I can more readily understand.
Each present moment is as you said, an ongoing process between what will be and what has come to pass, and results in what becomes the future, but in that very event of becoming, it is no longer future, but past.
The instant that an event occurs, it is no longer present or a possible future, it is past memory of what was present.
In the present time that it was taking place, the only simultaneity of tense is that while it is taking place, any number of other events are also occurring.
Can you, from this point, relay to me how the future event which has not yet occurred, which will be the result of this present movement, is somehow part of the simultaneous process, when it has not yet occurred?
As events continue to occur, their future is not definite, based in the present moment. the possibilities of what might result are endless. And each possibility resides unmanifested until it becomes the next present, and then the past.
Is my confusion in that what you are calling the future is not the same as what I acknowledge as future?
I see that you are also addressing this in the other thread as well so I am going to try to bring the two together and see what I can extrapolate from the Word processor.
I also want to point out that there is much more to discuss here than just the matter of simultaneity. Hopefully we will be able to get it all in with time.
Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present?
It seems that you have suggested that IF we are in control of each present moment, than we are also in control of our future. but what IF we are NOt in control, for instance an even happens over which we are helpless ot control the outcome. Does that mean that, by your definition there cannot be a future in such an event?
If I apply my thought to your explanations, it seems to make more sense to me and I can more readily understand.
Each present moment is as you said, an ongoing process between what will be and what has come to pass, and results in what becomes the future, but in that very event of becoming, it is no longer future, but past.
The instant that an event occurs, it is no longer present or a possible future, it is past memory of what was present.
In the present time that it was taking place, the only simultaneity of tense is that while it is taking place, any number of other events are also occurring.
Can you, from this point, relay to me how the future event which has not yet occurred, which will be the result of this present movement, is somehow part of the simultaneous process, when it has not yet occurred?
As events continue to occur, their future is not definite, based in the present moment. the possibilities of what might result are endless. And each possibility resides unmanifested until it becomes the next present, and then the past.
Is my confusion in that what you are calling the future is not the same as what I acknowledge as future?
I see that you are also addressing this in the other thread as well so I am going to try to bring the two together and see what I can extrapolate from the Word processor.
I also want to point out that there is much more to discuss here than just the matter of simultaneity. Hopefully we will be able to get it all in with time.