09-12-2012, 01:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-12-2012, 01:13 AM by godwide_void.)
(09-11-2012, 07:37 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I still have much reading to do here, but this thought comes to mind as I try to understand what is being said.
Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present?
It seems that you have suggested that IF we are in control of each present moment, than we are also in control of our future. but what IF we are NOt in control, for instance an even happens over which we are helpless ot control the outcome. Does that mean that, by your definition there cannot be a future in such an event?
If I apply my thought to your explanations, it seems to make more sense to me and I can more readily understand.
Each present moment is as you said, an ongoing process between what will be and what has come to pass, and results in what becomes the future, but in that very event of becoming, it is no longer future, but past.
The instant that an event occurs, it is no longer present or a possible future, it is past memory of what was present.
In the present time that it was taking place, the only simultaneity of tense is that while it is taking place, any number of other events are also occurring.
Can you, from this point, relay to me how the future event which has not yet occurred, which will be the result of this present movement, is somehow part of the simultaneous process, when it has not yet occurred?
As events continue to occur, their future is not definite, based in the present moment. the possibilities of what might result are endless. And each possibility resides unmanifested until it becomes the next present, and then the past.
Is my confusion in that what you are calling the future is not the same as what I acknowledge as future?
I see that you are also addressing this in the other thread as well so I am going to try to bring the two together and see what I can extrapolate from the Word processor.
I also want to point out that there is much more to discuss here than just the matter of simultaneity. Hopefully we will be able to get it all in with time.
I have answered many points which would clarify things for you in my response in your Fields of Consciousness thread, but I will address briefly two statements of yours for further supplemental elaboration:
Quote:Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present?
It seems that you have suggested that IF we are in control of each present moment, than we are also in control of our future. but what IF we are NOt in control, for instance an even happens over which we are helpless ot control the outcome. Does that mean that, by your definition there cannot be a future in such an event?
It appears you are categorizing a chunk of moments into a "continuing, ongoing present". I choose to perceive that the ongoing continuum of momentary awareness of a time duration of say, 5 minutes, is comprised of many present moments, which at the beginning of the 5 minutes consisted of many unmanifest future moments, and as you progressed through each moment and experienced them, they instantly became a past moment. Immediately beyond your present moment, second by second, is a future moment which is yet to manifest.
Also, when I stated that one who is in better control of their present will control their future, I meant to imply that when one better manages the actions they perform in any present moment, they will have a better grasp at directing the manifestation of each subsequent moment to one's liking. However, even if one chooses to approach existence with a completely foolhardy and reckless disposition, and hold no control over the circumstances of their present moment or are simply wandering aimlessly, this does not mean that they will not experience a future, as this designation of time is impersonal and is universal in regards to beings which perceive a linear passage of events.
Whether you have a better grasp of your present or not does not change the existence of unmanifest future probabilities. It is simply that, with the former circumstance of better managing one's present, those future probabilities will have a likelier chance of being to one's preference.
Read my other post for the greater clarification on this matter.
(09-11-2012, 10:52 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I thought the galaxies were very well done. Did you use images of galaxies?
Thank you, and yep, I found a picture of a fitting spiral galaxy and chose to use this in abundance because from my recollection of this vision, every galaxy I saw embedded within the Creator were predominately spiral galaxies.