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    Thread: A Puzzle (at least for me)


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    01-26-2010, 12:01 PM (This post was last modified: 01-26-2010, 12:09 PM by Lavazza.)
    (01-26-2010, 12:46 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: a) An sto entity arrives on a scene whereby an sts entity is about to kill an sto entity, and the sto entity kills the sts entity. Does this interfere with the sts entities evolution? and how does this align with the LOO teachings?

    b) An sto entity is being attacked with intent to kill by an sts entity. The sto entity kills the sts entity. How does this align with the LOO teachings?

    c) An sto entity acting out of intent for the greater good kills another sto entity.

    You know, I read a wonderful Q'uo session about this very topic a while back, but now I cannot find it! The group posed a question about a hero in a movie they had viewed the evening prior. In the story, the hero ends up killing a good number of people in order to save a greater number of people. Essentially, Q'uo said, the burdun of karma will not befall one who believes they are acting for the greatest good. But that's the crux of the matter, what it is that person believes they are doing. If you know you are doing wrong, or if you know what you are doing is right, that's how it falls. This makes a good deal of sense I think, considering that out every action in today's society from large to small actions will ultimately effect someone else. My very lifestyle, living in the USA has consequences for others in smaller nations even though I am not consciously aware of those consequences. But it would not be very helpful from the standpoint of spiritual evolution to be held accountable for things that I am not aware of! It also speaks to the validity of the idea that whatever your intent is behind something is what matters. Consider the Christmas gift given out of obligation. Yes, it is a gift, but does it mean much? No.

    I have also put some thought in to hypothetical scenarios involving my loved ones and what I would do. Although the odds of it happening are remote, in the event that a chain-saw wielding maniac were to saw down my front door in the middle of the night, I would make little hesitation in attempting to arrest that individual by whatever means in order to protect my loved ones from harm. I've also imagined scenarios in which I dive in front of vehicles to save children, etc.

    If you *really* want a hairy hypothetical to mull over, consider one that my (slightly dark mooded) friend posed to me. Were you given the choice of seeing one of your loved ones killed, or one hundred people you don't know killed, what would you do? When I heard that question initially I rebuked it, claiming that it was a false choice given that it would almost never happen. But apparently I am wrong about that, he cited some African genocide or other where, reportedly, similar things had happened. I still don't know quite what to say about that one.
    (01-26-2010, 06:29 AM)ayadew Wrote: If I am you, then I serve you by serving me. STO becomes STS
    If you am I, then I serve me by serving you. STS becomes STO

    This obvious dilemma makes me refrain from judging. This is not the density of understanding. That's a long way to go!
    We all serve each other by being ourselves - we serve the infinite creator which is you/me.

    Yes, I believe this is the best approach to this seeming paradox. Paradoxes by their very nature do not have resolve (at least with present understanding) so one of the best solutions, so to speak, is to hold it at arms length and do not become overly concerned until you have more information to work with.

    I consider STO and STS to be of a metaphorical nature anyways. In fact, most all of our language is metaphor. All our language does is describe things, certainly not very well on topics of the metaphysical. Just take a look at any of our friends here who have attempted to describe mystical experiences, viewing the start of creation, or witnessing god. Words fail... And pretty much all channeled entities that I've ever read complain about our limiting language at one point or another. LOL!

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    A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-26-2010, 12:10 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Questioner - 01-26-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 01-26-2010, 12:46 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Lavazza - 01-26-2010, 12:01 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Lorna - 01-26-2010, 05:38 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Monica - 02-03-2010, 08:35 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-26-2010, 12:47 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Purple Dragon - 01-26-2010, 01:51 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-26-2010, 02:02 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by ayadew - 01-26-2010, 06:29 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-26-2010, 06:36 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Questioner - 01-26-2010, 02:03 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 01-28-2010, 01:10 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by ayadew - 01-26-2010, 06:48 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by ayadew - 01-26-2010, 12:24 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-26-2010, 11:07 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Marty - 01-26-2010, 11:47 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by norral - 01-27-2010, 06:14 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-27-2010, 07:41 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by fairyfarmgirl - 01-27-2010, 08:08 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Ali Quadir - 01-27-2010, 08:13 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 01-27-2010, 08:58 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Steppingfeet - 01-27-2010, 02:16 PM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Questioner - 01-28-2010, 02:04 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 01-28-2010, 03:47 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Ali Quadir - 01-28-2010, 08:44 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by thefool - 01-29-2010, 01:33 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 02-04-2010, 12:07 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 02-04-2010, 01:09 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Monica - 02-04-2010, 01:24 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 02-04-2010, 01:40 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 02-04-2010, 02:17 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 02-04-2010, 02:28 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Peregrinus - 02-04-2010, 02:53 AM
    RE: A Puzzle (at least for me) - by Chett - 02-04-2010, 07:57 AM

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