11-12-2017, 12:03 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2017, 12:43 AM by Dekalb_Blues.)
Jeremy wrote: This is more philosophy of science than science, but it addresses science so I thought it best posted here. Please keep yer cotton-pickin' fingers off it, mods. Don't make me come over there, you hear me?
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Jeremy, your post's subject reminds me of a story:
Life & Death among the Pots & Pans
One day Nasrudin lent his cooking pots and pans to a neighbor, who was
giving a feast. The neighbor returned them, together with one extra one --
a very tiny frying pan.
"What is this?" asked Nasrudin.
"According to law, I have given you the offspring of your property which
was born when the pots and pans were in my care," said the joker.
Shortly afterwards Nasrudin borrowed many pieces of his neighbor's
cookware, but did not return them.
The man came around to get them back.
"Alas!" said Nasrudin, "they are dead. We have established, have we not,
that pots and pans are mortal?"
-- adapted from Idries Shah's "If a Pot Can Multiply" in his The Exploits of the Incomparable Mulla Nasrudin (1966)
https://idriesshahfoundation.org/books/the-exploits-of-the-incomparable-mulla-nasrudin
I seem to recall reading somewhere in the Ra material something vaguely to the effect that (of all things!) all is one. (In fact, it seems these characters from Venus & points elsewhere had seemingly even -- over the many moons of their tooling around the galaxy pondering -- gimmicked up some cosmic law or other on this subject.) Alles ist eins?! Tout est un?! Todo es uno?! Wszystko jest jednum?! Gbogbo won je okan?! Now, of course that's just plumb loco, as any discrete Earthling who can tell one thing from another thing knows . . . but it's also most certainly true. So, let's see -- taking Infinity/Eternity into account, it would be the case that if there's something of anything then everything has some of that something . . .
I guess the backmost dead eddies in the grand river of knowledge in which certain so-called scientists are hesitantly wading, afraid to get their little tootsies wet, haven't gotten the memo yet, as their fragmentative philosophy attests --
-- but luckily there are plenty of real scientists who have, and are currently busy doing their thing quietly but competently.
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Jeremy, your post's subject reminds me of a story:
Life & Death among the Pots & Pans
One day Nasrudin lent his cooking pots and pans to a neighbor, who was
giving a feast. The neighbor returned them, together with one extra one --
a very tiny frying pan.
"What is this?" asked Nasrudin.
"According to law, I have given you the offspring of your property which
was born when the pots and pans were in my care," said the joker.
Shortly afterwards Nasrudin borrowed many pieces of his neighbor's
cookware, but did not return them.
The man came around to get them back.
"Alas!" said Nasrudin, "they are dead. We have established, have we not,
that pots and pans are mortal?"
-- adapted from Idries Shah's "If a Pot Can Multiply" in his The Exploits of the Incomparable Mulla Nasrudin (1966)
https://idriesshahfoundation.org/books/the-exploits-of-the-incomparable-mulla-nasrudin
I seem to recall reading somewhere in the Ra material something vaguely to the effect that (of all things!) all is one. (In fact, it seems these characters from Venus & points elsewhere had seemingly even -- over the many moons of their tooling around the galaxy pondering -- gimmicked up some cosmic law or other on this subject.) Alles ist eins?! Tout est un?! Todo es uno?! Wszystko jest jednum?! Gbogbo won je okan?! Now, of course that's just plumb loco, as any discrete Earthling who can tell one thing from another thing knows . . . but it's also most certainly true. So, let's see -- taking Infinity/Eternity into account, it would be the case that if there's something of anything then everything has some of that something . . .
I guess the backmost dead eddies in the grand river of knowledge in which certain so-called scientists are hesitantly wading, afraid to get their little tootsies wet, haven't gotten the memo yet, as their fragmentative philosophy attests --
-- but luckily there are plenty of real scientists who have, and are currently busy doing their thing quietly but competently.