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    04-11-2015, 08:48 PM
    (04-11-2015, 08:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I need to heal my heart first and foremost. I feel I don't have enough love for others or myself.

    the healing of the heart happens via forgiveness.  Deep and sincere forgiveness.  It is easy to say the words ('I forgive myself for doing (action a) or (action b)') but the full forgiveness happens when you can see the consequences of the action without looking away or trying to make excuses.  There is a certain responsibility in owning up to the effects of what needed forgiving.  It also helps to say 'sorry' to the person or the thing that needed forgiving.  In one's head, of course - as the person might not be around, or receptive to what you have to say - but this forgiveness is not dependent on what the other person does.   Deep and sincere forgiveness can heal almost any heart pain.



    (04-11-2015, 08:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've sent healing to my mother, as well as places on Earth where it is needed.

    do you think that was effective?
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    04-11-2015, 10:32 PM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2015, 10:34 PM by anagogy.)
    (04-11-2015, 08:54 AM)Minyatur Wrote: 4D STS is still the density of love, it cannot exclude the green ray, though I'd agree about what you said only concerning 3D. 

    At a certain point a negative entity has no problem wearing the mask of the devil in order to bring catalysts to other-selves and further polarize. It is a required role by other-selves and as such is a service to others just as much as it is service to self. The service to self is to further polarize and the service to others is to provide catalysts. STO entities also do further polarize themselves as a service to themselves just as they do provide catalysts for others as a services to others. The difference is the polarity the entities wishes to further experience just as the polarity of the catalysts it provides.

    The illusion of polarity is that we are all the very same thing and we all do have the same selfish mentality to explore our desires. The only difference lies in that each entity is exploring different sets of desires as the One. None is more good willed no matter how self righteous they are.

    Take a gander at these here quotes and see if this changes your perspective ever so slightly:

    Quote:47.3 Questioner: We chose the values of— or you were given the values of better than 50% service to others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service to self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?

    Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.

    The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.

    The positive, upon the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true-color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.

    47.4 Questioner: Did you say that blue was missing from fourth-density negative?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us clarify further. As we have previously stated, all beings have the potential for all possible vibratory rates. Thus the potential of the green and blue energy center activation is, of course, precisely where it must be in a creation of Love. However, the negatively polarized entity will have achieved harvest due to extremely efficient use of red and yellow/orange, moving directly to the gateway indigo bringing through this intelligent energy channel the instreamings of intelligent infinity.

    Quote:85.11 Questioner: Then the service-to-others path have potentiated that which is not. Could you expand that a little bit so I can understand it better?

    Ra: I am Ra. If you see the energy centers in their various colors completing the spectrum you may see that the [service-to-self] choice is one which denies the very center of the spectrum; that being universal love. Therefore, all that is built upon the penetration of the light of harvestable quality by such entities is based upon an omission. This omission shall manifest in fourth density as the love of self; that is, the fullest expression of the orange and yellow energy centers which then are used to potentiate communication and adepthood.

    When fifth-density refinement has been achieved that which is not is carried further, the wisdom density being explored by entities which have no compassion, no universal love. They experience that which they wish by free choice, being of the earnest opinion that green-ray energy is folly.

    That which is not may be seen as a self-imposed darkness in which harmony is turned into an eternal disharmony. However, that which is not cannot endure throughout the octave of third density and, as darkness eventually calls the light, so does that which is not eventually call that which is.

    So, as you can see, one can inhabit the green ray plane, yet still deny the essence of green ray, or universal love, energy.  My understanding of green ray is that it affords a certain level of unity, which allows for awareness of time/space energies.  Thus, you are aware of the thoughts of other selves.  In a positive being, this creates empathy, seeing the troubles, the whims, and perspective of other entities.  Negative beings deny this empathy, or universal love, and simply use this understanding in the cold, clinical, way they would use any new information.  In pursuit of power over others.

    I personally believe that is why they call it the "density of love *OR* understanding", in many beings, understanding naturally leads to empathy. In the negative beings, however, it does not and is simply *understanding*.

    So perhaps they are exploring green ray energies (since physical fourth density is a crystallization of green ray energies) but they are doing so with a closed down heart center, so they don't interpret it in the same way positive entities do.  
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    04-11-2015, 10:41 PM
    (04-11-2015, 10:32 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (04-11-2015, 08:54 AM)Minyatur Wrote: 4D STS is still the density of love, it cannot exclude the green ray, though I'd agree about what you said only concerning 3D. 

    At a certain point a negative entity has no problem wearing the mask of the devil in order to bring catalysts to other-selves and further polarize. It is a required role by other-selves and as such is a service to others just as much as it is service to self. The service to self is to further polarize and the service to others is to provide catalysts. STO entities also do further polarize themselves as a service to themselves just as they do provide catalysts for others as a services to others. The difference is the polarity the entities wishes to further experience just as the polarity of the catalysts it provides.

    The illusion of polarity is that we are all the very same thing and we all do have the same selfish mentality to explore our desires. The only difference lies in that each entity is exploring different sets of desires as the One. None is more good willed no matter how self righteous they are.

    Take a gander at these here quotes and see if this changes your perspective ever so slightly:


    Quote:47.3 Questioner: We chose the values of— or you were given the values of better than 50% service to others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service to self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?

    Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.

    The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.

    The positive, upon the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true-color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.

    47.4 Questioner: Did you say that blue was missing from fourth-density negative?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us clarify further. As we have previously stated, all beings have the potential for all possible vibratory rates. Thus the potential of the green and blue energy center activation is, of course, precisely where it must be in a creation of Love. However, the negatively polarized entity will have achieved harvest due to extremely efficient use of red and yellow/orange, moving directly to the gateway indigo bringing through this intelligent energy channel the instreamings of intelligent infinity.

    Quote:85.11 Questioner: Then the service-to-others path have potentiated that which is not. Could you expand that a little bit so I can understand it better?

    Ra: I am Ra. If you see the energy centers in their various colors completing the spectrum you may see that the [service-to-self] choice is one which denies the very center of the spectrum; that being universal love. Therefore, all that is built upon the penetration of the light of harvestable quality by such entities is based upon an omission. This omission shall manifest in fourth density as the love of self; that is, the fullest expression of the orange and yellow energy centers which then are used to potentiate communication and adepthood.

    When fifth-density refinement has been achieved that which is not is carried further, the wisdom density being explored by entities which have no compassion, no universal love. They experience that which they wish by free choice, being of the earnest opinion that green-ray energy is folly.

    That which is not may be seen as a self-imposed darkness in which harmony is turned into an eternal disharmony. However, that which is not cannot endure throughout the octave of third density and, as darkness eventually calls the light, so does that which is not eventually call that which is.

    So, as you can see, one can inhabit the green ray plane, yet still deny the essence of green ray, or universal love, energy.  My understanding of green ray is that it affords a certain level of unity, which allows for awareness of time/space energies.  Thus, you are aware of the thoughts of other selves.  In a positive being, this creates empathy, seeing the troubles, the whims, and perspective of other entities.  Negative beings deny this empathy, or universal love, and simply use this understanding in the cold, clinical, way they would use any new information.  In pursuit of power over others.

    I personally believe that is why they call it the "density of love *OR* understanding", in many beings, understanding naturally leads to empathy.  In the negative beings, however, it does not and is simply *understanding*.

    So perhaps they are exploring green ray energies (since physical fourth density is a crystallization of green ray energies) but they are doing so with a closed down heart center, so they don't interpret it in the same way positive entities do.  

    Im sorry but I just dont see everything the way Ra does. Its ok though we can all belief as we wish.

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    04-11-2015, 10:49 PM
    (04-11-2015, 10:41 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:
    (04-11-2015, 10:32 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (04-11-2015, 08:54 AM)Minyatur Wrote: 4D STS is still the density of love, it cannot exclude the green ray, though I'd agree about what you said only concerning 3D. 

    At a certain point a negative entity has no problem wearing the mask of the devil in order to bring catalysts to other-selves and further polarize. It is a required role by other-selves and as such is a service to others just as much as it is service to self. The service to self is to further polarize and the service to others is to provide catalysts. STO entities also do further polarize themselves as a service to themselves just as they do provide catalysts for others as a services to others. The difference is the polarity the entities wishes to further experience just as the polarity of the catalysts it provides.

    The illusion of polarity is that we are all the very same thing and we all do have the same selfish mentality to explore our desires. The only difference lies in that each entity is exploring different sets of desires as the One. None is more good willed no matter how self righteous they are.

    Take a gander at these here quotes and see if this changes your perspective ever so slightly:



    Quote:47.3 Questioner: We chose the values of— or you were given the values of better than 50% service to others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service to self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?

    Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.

    The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.

    The positive, upon the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true-color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.

    47.4 Questioner: Did you say that blue was missing from fourth-density negative?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us clarify further. As we have previously stated, all beings have the potential for all possible vibratory rates. Thus the potential of the green and blue energy center activation is, of course, precisely where it must be in a creation of Love. However, the negatively polarized entity will have achieved harvest due to extremely efficient use of red and yellow/orange, moving directly to the gateway indigo bringing through this intelligent energy channel the instreamings of intelligent infinity.

    Quote:85.11 Questioner: Then the service-to-others path have potentiated that which is not. Could you expand that a little bit so I can understand it better?

    Ra: I am Ra. If you see the energy centers in their various colors completing the spectrum you may see that the [service-to-self] choice is one which denies the very center of the spectrum; that being universal love. Therefore, all that is built upon the penetration of the light of harvestable quality by such entities is based upon an omission. This omission shall manifest in fourth density as the love of self; that is, the fullest expression of the orange and yellow energy centers which then are used to potentiate communication and adepthood.

    When fifth-density refinement has been achieved that which is not is carried further, the wisdom density being explored by entities which have no compassion, no universal love. They experience that which they wish by free choice, being of the earnest opinion that green-ray energy is folly.

    That which is not may be seen as a self-imposed darkness in which harmony is turned into an eternal disharmony. However, that which is not cannot endure throughout the octave of third density and, as darkness eventually calls the light, so does that which is not eventually call that which is.

    So, as you can see, one can inhabit the green ray plane, yet still deny the essence of green ray, or universal love, energy.  My understanding of green ray is that it affords a certain level of unity, which allows for awareness of time/space energies.  Thus, you are aware of the thoughts of other selves.  In a positive being, this creates empathy, seeing the troubles, the whims, and perspective of other entities.  Negative beings deny this empathy, or universal love, and simply use this understanding in the cold, clinical, way they would use any new information.  In pursuit of power over others.

    I personally believe that is why they call it the "density of love *OR* understanding", in many beings, understanding naturally leads to empathy.  In the negative beings, however, it does not and is simply *understanding*.

    So perhaps they are exploring green ray energies (since physical fourth density is a crystallization of green ray energies) but they are doing so with a closed down heart center, so they don't interpret it in the same way positive entities do.  

    Im sorry but I just dont see everything the way Ra does. Its ok though we can all belief as we wish. For one I do believe the so called "negative" entity opens his heart chakra in passion sto in compassion. I just dont think Ra or myself knows everything. The reason I dont think Ra shines light on everything known. Is because Ra has made its "choice" to sto. Its not gonna send messages for the so called "sts" your reading a biased opinion still. Plain and simple. I am not spitting on Ras word. I have great respect for them. I have not made them holy unapproachable doctrine though. They are transmission from an entity to entity both containing biases and distortions.

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    #35
    04-11-2015, 11:03 PM
    The infinite one creator. <---Singular. The "sto" are not greater then the "sts" or vice versa. There gears that churn out experience baby. Widen the view. Stop being fanatics.

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    #36
    04-11-2015, 11:31 PM
    (04-11-2015, 11:03 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: The infinite one creator. <---Singular. The "sto" are not greater then the "sts" or vice versa. There gears that churn out experience baby. Widen the view. Stop being fanatics.

    I wasn't aware anybody had said that one was better than the other. I certainly said nothing of the sort. Huh
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    04-12-2015, 07:09 AM
    (04-11-2015, 11:31 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (04-11-2015, 11:03 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: The infinite one creator. <---Singular. The "sto" are not greater then the "sts" or vice versa. There gears that churn out experience baby. Widen the view. Stop being fanatics.

    I wasn't aware anybody had said that one was better than the other.  I certainly said nothing of the sort.   Huh

    Excuse me for an assumption. I am sorry for being rude. No Excuse but yesterday was a really rough day. Again I am sorry Anagogy. Please forgive me.
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    #38
    04-12-2015, 05:33 PM
    Quote:Minyatur :
    I would not say inherently but as long as one rejects the STS path, I'd call it self-righteousness. As it is entities rejecting what is unlike their righteousness despite the fact that they also are the other-selves of whom they reject the ways. There is nothing done in Creation you wouldn't do as you are already doing it all.

    I reject being used and/or manipulated.

    Freewill and the choice of polarity is the teaching/learning ground toward/within evolution, it has nothing to do with self-righteousness.
    I realize that you are promoting a balanced view of polarity but at what point in your view does an entity «move on» towards his choice of service without crossing the line into «self-righteousness»?  
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    #39
    04-12-2015, 09:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2015, 09:33 PM by Minyatur.)
    (04-12-2015, 05:33 PM)Enyiah Wrote:
    Quote:Minyatur :
    I would not say inherently but as long as one rejects the STS path, I'd call it self-righteousness. As it is entities rejecting what is unlike their righteousness despite the fact that they also are the other-selves of whom they reject the ways. There is nothing done in Creation you wouldn't do as you are already doing it all.

    I reject being used and/or manipulated.

    Freewill and the choice of polarity is the teaching/learning ground toward/within evolution, it has nothing to do with self-righteousness.
    I realize that you are promoting a balanced view of polarity but at what point in your view does an entity «move on» towards his choice of service without crossing the line into «self-righteousness»?  

    When one sees that he also is his opposite and as such does answer his subjective calling in acceptance of what he currently is not. Perceiving that what he is not is another calling answered by another version of him. I'm not saying I am able to do this nor that I expect others to do this easily but that is the one path of evolution and needs to be considered as much as possible IMO.

    I could say many similar things about the STS path but I do think it's already being done enough. To me this sphere is a mirror game to test us in many ways as we're confronted with this reality and as such both paths incarnate mirrors unto self. The end of line is that Creation was, is and will always be perfect as the One interacting with itself through many-ness. The same source of each of us is the potential for any role that is played.

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    04-12-2015, 09:45 PM
    Neutrality is also the path for me. Balance is spoken everywhere. It is probably the most repeated thing, through out are lessons. To me there is no light without dark. The part about both paths being mirrors unto each other. Is directly how I envision it. I think minyutar suggests I am the one spewing the sts rhetoric forth? ahahahah

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    04-12-2015, 09:55 PM
    I reject being used and/or manipulated.

    oops wrong reply.



    Freewill and the choice of polarity is the teaching/learning ground toward/within evolution, it has nothing to do with self-righteousness.
    I realize that you are promoting a balanced view of polarity but at what point in your view does an entity «move on» towards his choice of service without crossing the line into «self-righteousness»?


    The reason there are densities beyond this one and the next are for learning. When you reach 7d, It will be like the first time you have ever really experienced anything. When it is your time in 7d, you will be unity. To me unity and balance are synonymous. You are basically saying the same thing. So if the creator is all things he is light/dark he is negative/positive. You are creating separations today. You will have to "unlearn" in the next densities.

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    04-12-2015, 09:56 PM
    To me polarity is simply momentum. Building momentum in the desired direction.

    1. Life presents a catalyst
    1a. Experiential entity makes choice in desired direction and builds polarity
    1b. Experiential entity makes choice in opposite direction and loses polarity

    I believe the percentages explained by Ra (51% and 95%) are direct measures of polarity.

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    04-12-2015, 10:13 PM
    (04-12-2015, 09:56 PM)seek Wrote: To me polarity is simply momentum. Building momentum in the desired direction.

    1. Life presents a catalyst
    1a. Experiential entity makes choice in desired direction and builds polarity
    1b. Experiential entity makes choice in opposite direction and loses polarity

    I believe the percentages explained by Ra (51% and 95%) are direct measures of polarity.

    I would agree with what you are saying, to the scope it supplements. There are things seemingly controlled by polarity, that are beyond the scope of your definition of polarity. What in those numbers correlate to the polarity apparently apparent in your body. Such as female or male.

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    04-12-2015, 10:23 PM
    (04-12-2015, 09:45 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: Neutrality is also the path for me. Balance is spoken everywhere. It is probably the most repeated thing, through out are lessons. To me there is no light without dark. The part about both paths being mirrors unto each other. Is directly how I envision it. I think minyutar suggests I am the one spewing the sts rhetoric forth? ahahahah

    I meant to say that I tend to defend the STS path as the STO path does not really need to be defended on this forum.

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    04-12-2015, 10:26 PM
    (04-12-2015, 10:23 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 09:45 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote: Neutrality is also the path for me. Balance is spoken everywhere. It is probably the most repeated thing, through out are lessons. To me there is no light without dark. The part about both paths being mirrors unto each other. Is directly how I envision it. I think minyutar suggests I am the one spewing the sts rhetoric forth? ahahahah

    I meant to say that I tend to defend the STS path as the STO path does not really need to be defended on this forum.

    Lol I still thought it a funny statement.

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    04-12-2015, 10:39 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2015, 10:43 PM by seek. Edit Reason: typos )
    (04-12-2015, 10:13 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 09:56 PM)seek Wrote: To me polarity is simply momentum. Building momentum in the desired direction.

    1. Life presents a catalyst
    1a. Experiential entity makes choice in desired direction and builds polarity
    1b. Experiential entity makes choice in opposite direction and loses polarity

    I believe the percentages explained by Ra (51% and 95%) are direct measures of polarity.

    I would agree with what you are saying, to the scope it supplements. There are things seemingly controlled by polarity, that are beyond the scope of your definition of polarity. What in those numbers correlate to the polarity apparently apparent in your body. Such as female or male.

    Allow me to clarify a bit.

    At its base "polarity" is simply the presence of two opposing or contrasting principles. Gender being one system or idea of polarity. I would not say that these ideas are controlled by polarity but are polarity as in polar opposites.

    A direct measure of polarity is a reflection of location on the sliding scale between polar opposites. The numbers I posted, as explained by Ra, are a direct measure of spiritual polarity on the sliding scale between positive and negative. I agree with you that the focus of my reply was within this context/scope. 

    With regard to gender, ones level of masculinity or femininity could be the direct measure of polarity on that sliding scale. Physical gender (as in sexual organs, brain chemistry, etc.) is a manifestation of the representation of that direct measurement decided by pre-incarnate distortions to facilitate the necessary learning desired for any particular lifetime. Gender can be a confusing example when discussing polarity because we seemingly start with a bias towards one side or the other. Though I have known some very feminine men and very masculine women. We also have many modern examples of "flipping" gender polarity mid-incarnation.
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    04-12-2015, 10:52 PM
    (04-12-2015, 10:39 PM)seek Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 10:13 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 09:56 PM)seek Wrote: To me polarity is simply momentum. Building momentum in the desired direction.

    1. Life presents a catalyst
    1a. Experiential entity makes choice in desired direction and builds polarity
    1b. Experiential entity makes choice in opposite direction and loses polarity

    I believe the percentages explained by Ra (51% and 95%) are direct measures of polarity.

    I would agree with what you are saying, to the scope it supplements. There are things seemingly controlled by polarity, that are beyond the scope of your definition of polarity. What in those numbers correlate to the polarity apparently apparent in your body. Such as female or male.

    Allow me to clarify a bit.

    At its base "polarity" is simply the presence of two opposing or contrasting principles. Gender being one system or idea of polarity. I would not say that these ideas are controlled by polarity but are polarity as in polar opposites.

    A direct measure of polarity is a reflection of location on the sliding scale between polar opposites. The numbers I posted, as explained by Ra, are a direct measure of spiritual polarity on the sliding scale between positive and negative. I agree with you that the focus of my reply was within this context/scope. 

    With regard to gender, ones level of masculinity or femininity could be the direct measure of polarity on that sliding scale. Physical gender (as in sexual organs, brain chemistry, etc.) is a manifestation of the representation of that direct measurement decided by pre-incarnate distortions to facilitate the necessary learning desired for any particular lifetime. Gender can be a confusing example when discussing polarity because we seemingly start with a bias towards one side or the other. Though I have known some very feminine men and very masculine women. We also have many modern examples of "flipping" gender polarity mid-incarnation.
    I for the most part agree. The only problem I have, is it seems a little clunky, and in general. It would be like saying all men are sto and need to learn this set standard of lessons, and primarily opposite for women. I think it is to broad.
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    04-12-2015, 11:00 PM
    (04-12-2015, 10:52 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 10:39 PM)seek Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 10:13 PM)I_Am_The_One Wrote:
    (04-12-2015, 09:56 PM)seek Wrote: To me polarity is simply momentum. Building momentum in the desired direction.

    1. Life presents a catalyst
    1a. Experiential entity makes choice in desired direction and builds polarity
    1b. Experiential entity makes choice in opposite direction and loses polarity

    I believe the percentages explained by Ra (51% and 95%) are direct measures of polarity.

    I would agree with what you are saying, to the scope it supplements. There are things seemingly controlled by polarity, that are beyond the scope of your definition of polarity. What in those numbers correlate to the polarity apparently apparent in your body. Such as female or male.

    Allow me to clarify a bit.

    At its base "polarity" is simply the presence of two opposing or contrasting principles. Gender being one system or idea of polarity. I would not say that these ideas are controlled by polarity but are polarity as in polar opposites.

    A direct measure of polarity is a reflection of location on the sliding scale between polar opposites. The numbers I posted, as explained by Ra, are a direct measure of spiritual polarity on the sliding scale between positive and negative. I agree with you that the focus of my reply was within this context/scope. 

    With regard to gender, ones level of masculinity or femininity could be the direct measure of polarity on that sliding scale. Physical gender (as in sexual organs, brain chemistry, etc.) is a manifestation of the representation of that direct measurement decided by pre-incarnate distortions to facilitate the necessary learning desired for any particular lifetime. Gender can be a confusing example when discussing polarity because we seemingly start with a bias towards one side or the other. Though I have known some very feminine men and very masculine women. We also have many modern examples of "flipping" gender polarity mid-incarnation.
    I for the most part agree. The only problem I have, is it seems a little clunky, and in general. It would be like saying all men are sto and need to learn this set standard of lessons, and primarily opposite for women. I think it is to broad.

    Cancel that. I reread it, making sure I got it. I would agree. I dont think polarity is just polar opposites though. Nor do I think all the "polarity" disconnected from one another, I believe polarity essentially starts near the top and is filtered down into rest of creation. I see it as the axis on which the whole creation turns. Everywhere you look, you find examples of polarity, of male and of female.Of negative and positive. I dont think it a good idea to begin separating this into concepts only containing one area of observation. All polarity is tied to another on different levels of creation.
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    there was one then there was two. This two was polarity. From this all other things hail.
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    04-13-2015, 12:59 AM
    Sorry, I am not understanding.

    My second comment addresses the concept or idea of polarity in general which is what I thought you were hinting at when you responded to my first comment which was much more geared to my understanding of the base of spiritual polarity. Or at least how to build momentum in the selected direction.

    My addition of the information on gender was simply in response to your question. No attempt was made to contain to a single area of observation. Polarity is indeed polar opposites. That is the base root of the word.

    The manifestation, application or intent of spiritual polarity is debatable but the concept of polarity isn't. Which are we doing here? My understanding of the OP's question had to do with the generation of spiritual polarity (or at least how to change ones location within the sliding scale).

    Quote:I have been thinking about polarity lately and wondering how does one generate polarity?

    This is what my original comment was addressing. Once the decision is made (3rd density, density of choice), to generate/build polarity one should choose the proper reaction to each catalyst based on their desired and decided path. The scale (opposing concepts) in this system of spiritual polarity is negative/positive, sto/sts, light/dark, whatever you wish for it to be called.

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    (04-13-2015, 12:59 AM)seek Wrote: Sorry, I am not understanding.

    My second comment addresses the concept or idea of polarity in general which is what I thought you were hinting at when you responded to my first comment which was much more geared to my understanding of the base of spiritual polarity. Or at least how to build momentum in the selected direction.

    My addition of the information on gender was simply in response to your question. No attempt was made to contain to a single area of observation. Polarity is indeed polar opposites. That is the base root of the word.

    The manifestation, application or intent of spiritual polarity is debatable but the concept of polarity isn't. Which are we doing here? My understanding of the OP's question had to do with the generation of spiritual polarity (or at least how to change ones location within the sliding scale).


    Quote:I have been thinking about polarity lately and wondering how does one generate polarity?

    This is what my original comment was addressing. Once the decision is made (3rd density, density of choice), to generate/build polarity one should choose the proper reaction
    I think the concept of polarity is up for debate. I dont think humans understand the full weight of polarity. I dont think you realize, the logos was given a polarity. It being Potential and kinetic. (idc what Ra says on this.) Its beyond obvious to me, that the first division, was polarity.

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    LMAO the base root of the word. In the creators dictionary? or mans??? Oh mans...ok. Like mans definitions define the creator. lmfaooo Get out of her with that. Root words created by humans concepts of what is. Mean nothing here.

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    04-13-2015, 07:47 AM (This post was last modified: 04-13-2015, 07:53 AM by Stranger.)
    Something worth noting about polarity in the STO/STS sense, before we get too deep into equating them, is that one is described as "the path of what is" and the other is described as "the path of what is not." These refer to what is or is not true at the level of ultimate reality. The Logos, who is the original individuated manifestation of Infinity from whom all that we experience originates, is Love. He is not "hatred honed to a fine edge" which is how STS derive their power.

    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Only up to a very short point. After this point, the many-ness of distortions are equal one to another. The first distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the second distortion known to you as Logos, the Creative Principle or Love. This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these three distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions, each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being more important than another.
    [...]Love/light is the enabler, the power, the energy giver. Light/love is the manifestation which occurs when light has been impressed with love.

    The STS path is one of pretending that something that is ultimately false (separation) exists, and building power on that illusion. But the universe which both STS and STO inhabit is one built by Oneness out of Love; and that Love is what continues to exist beyond polarity, in the pure light after the shadows have fallen away.
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    04-13-2015, 08:37 AM
    (04-13-2015, 07:47 AM)Stranger Wrote: Something worth noting about polarity in the STO/STS sense, before we get too deep into equating them, is that one is described as "the path of what is" and the other is described as "the path of what is not."  These refer to what is or is not true at the level of ultimate reality.  The Logos, who is the original individuated manifestation of Infinity from whom all that we experience originates, is Love.  He is not "hatred honed to a fine edge" which is how STS derive their power.


    Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Only up to a very short point. After this point, the many-ness of distortions are equal one to another. The first distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the second distortion known to you as Logos, the Creative Principle or Love. This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these three distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions, each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being more important than another.
    [...]Love/light is the enabler, the power, the energy giver. Light/love is the manifestation which occurs when light has been impressed with love.

    The STS path is one of pretending that something that is ultimately false (separation) exists, and building power on that illusion.  But the universe which both STS and STO inhabit is one built by Oneness out of Love; and that Love is what continues to exist beyond polarity, in the pure light after the shadows have fallen away.

    I disagree here, I see it as your coming from a bias from the light. I think the creator above such bias, and view both paths as a means to experience. What said entity perceives, and acts on those perceptions. IS JUST THAT. Up to the entity. Just because all you have heard are terrible things about so called negative entity. Does not make it true. When you are the one, you wont see the negative as not, and the light as. THEY BOTH are. The dark and the light represent the creator. Neither ARE the creator. Thats why, when your either in the light or the dark. Your just a representative of the creator within creation. The light and dark are just an expression upon which experience rests. There is no differential to love of self, and love of other-self.  I doubt the creator even notices.....As long as you love.
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    04-13-2015, 08:45 AM
    So if you want to get technical. The light and dark fall away, because both create the illusion. Which leaves the creator. The creator created love to experience. The creator did not create love to define the creator as love. I know it hard, but I believe the creator even beyond love. Love being a vibration right under his "own" natural state. If you will.

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    04-13-2015, 09:42 AM
    Love is more fundamental than our feeling/understanding of love between two people.

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    04-13-2015, 10:10 AM
    I think most people find it hard to accept such truths, as the magnifying loneliness it implies. Which is the true reality of the one. When you are the one and only infinite creator, who are you going to love?

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    04-13-2015, 10:18 AM
    There might be something beyond Infinity. The OIC might have other Creators to love.

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    04-13-2015, 10:22 AM
    Then he is not the one infinite creator. Sounds like you talk about a reality within the one. Then the actual one. Believe in love, and what you will. I am of neutrality, there are no illusions of other-self here. I am fully comfortable with being alone.
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    04-13-2015, 10:23 AM
    Being alone is cool.

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