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    12-13-2013, 02:30 AM
    I actually used to believe in an event type of situation, and then I changed my views. Then coming across the Law of One complicated it a bit. The harvest used to be a daily discussion on here..like, for a year straight. It was exhausting, but it seems to be a necessary journey.

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    #32
    12-13-2013, 02:53 AM
    (12-13-2013, 02:30 AM)Icaro Wrote: I actually used to believe in an event type of situation, and then I changed my views. [...]

    I could say the same. I don't expect some kind of "event" during my lifetime.

    That doesn't mean I don't want to find out what Ra was referring to with the 30 years quote and a handful of others.

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    #33
    12-13-2013, 04:09 AM
    "it is a grand choice that each may make to, by desire, collect the details of the day or, by desire, seek the keys to unknowing."

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    #34
    12-13-2013, 04:34 AM
    sometimes i think the harvest/ev3nt is happening now...

    last night i was trying to sleep for forever then i was like hm i wonder how many hours i've been trying to sleep let me see what time it is...i look at the clock then am shocked/happy to see that i happened to look when it's 1:00 on the dot. then while i was looking it turned to 1:01 and my eyes were on it for no more than a few seconds. this kind of thing makes me feel like something's happening.

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    12-13-2013, 11:54 AM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2013, 11:59 AM by native.)
    (12-13-2013, 02:53 AM)Parsons Wrote: I could say the same. I don't expect some kind of "event" during my lifetime.

    That doesn't mean I don't want to find out what Ra was referring to with the 30 years quote and a handful of others.

    Well, session 6 has some transient information. There seems to be a warning in 6.12 that the session is detuning due to the details/dates being asked.. "I am having difficulty communicating with this instrument. We must deepen her state." So you have to wonder if the session had a higher degree of purity, would Ra have gave such a specific answer of 30 years, or would they have withheld the information due to infringement?

    Here's something odd..we've already been harvested. In fact our higher-self already exists in mid-sixth density, and also, there is a part of us that has already completed the octave.

    (12-13-2013, 04:34 AM)truesimultaneity Wrote: this kind of thing makes me feel like something's happening.

    BigSmile

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    #36
    12-13-2013, 12:17 PM
    I think the 30 year projection referred to the end of 2012, which reflected the Mayan calendars and the 5,125 year zodiac cycle. I certainly didn't wake up until a few weeks after the 12/21/12 date, when I think a subtle switch may have been flipped.

    I definitely do think of the event as an internal one. Changing the frame of one's mind is just as powerful and has the same reflective changes in global consciousness. Regardless, the "event" equates to game over in 3-D, and I think most of us want to be good and ready and completely done with our lessons we came here to learn, which I'm certain few of us are.

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    12-13-2013, 12:27 PM
    The inner-path does seem to have a direct effect on bringing fourth density into being:

    "The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and having also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity."
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    12-13-2013, 04:15 PM
    I awoke to the Ra material about 3-4 years ago. That was when I began having my spiritual experiences. I even had some experiences doing indigo ray work. But green ray is my favorite. I still think something will happen within our lifetime. Maybe not a full out harvest, but noticing changes in the world.

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    01-05-2014, 01:04 AM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2014, 01:06 AM by Parsons.)
    I was on yet another rereading of the Ra Material and I think I have a breakthrough of understanding of what the whole 30 years thing is about.

    Ra 6.15 Wrote:Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles currently?
    Ra: One major cycle is approximately twenty-five thousand [25,000] of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between seventy-five and seventy-six thousand [75–76,000] of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

    I still don't quite know what they mean by all are harvested regardless of their progress in relation to something occurring or ending around this time frame, but the bolded text makes a lot more sense to me. Those on the lowest end of the 3rd density spectrum WILL have some kind of effect at the end of the 30 year time period because that part of the density will cease being useful.

    Ra 6.16 Wrote:Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time?
    Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

    Again, I'm not sure what they mean by fetched with some inconvenience. I wish Don would have asked them to define what they mean by that.

    Ra 6.17 Wrote:Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?
    Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty [30], of your years.

    This part of the quote ties all of the above quotes together with some process ending around this timeframe and something changing, even if at a purely metaphysical area.

    Ra 6.18 Wrote:Questioner: After this thirty-year period I am assuming we will be a fourth-dimension or fourth-density planet. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

    Finally, this part is what really sets my imagination going as to what the possibilities are. I understand that I can't fully realize the 4th density while in this body, but what will happen to the world as lower 3rd density vibrations cease to be useful? Will those people pass on before their natural lifespan due to discordant energies or will they still live out a natural lifespan and simply not incarnate here next lifetime?

    Or will those who previously were exploring lower 3rd density lessons lose interest in those lessons and move on to higher ones for lack of any other choice (no supporting energies)? That seems like a less likely possibility but what do I know?

    Also, as more people leave OR don't explore lower 3rd density lessons, will more 4th density bleedthrough effects occur or will be able to manifest more quickly and dramatically things that were not possible before due to the general disbelief of society? How much longer will ideas like physical wars continue on the planet as the bar continues to raise?
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    #40
    01-05-2014, 07:55 AM
    I read half of the Hidden Hand material yesterday and he also talks about the harvest. When you add his information with Ra's together, you get a quite clearer picture.

    (01-05-2014, 01:04 AM)Parsons Wrote: I still don't quite know what they mean by all are harvested regardless of their progress in relation to something occurring or ending around this time frame, but the bolded text makes a lot more sense to me. Those on the lowest end of the 3rd density spectrum WILL have some kind of effect at the end of the 30 year time period because that part of the density will cease being useful.

    I cite Hidden Hand on this "all are harvested"-point:

    Quote:On 13.0.0.0.0 [he means decembre 21st 2012], the December solstice sun will be found in the band of the Milky Way, directly in the position of the "Dark Rift" in the Galaxy, forming an alignment between the Galactic Plane and the Solstice Meridian. We are about to enter into a literal alignment of the Cosmic, Galactic, Solar, and Lunar Planes. This is an event that has slowly converged, over a period of thousands of years, and is caused by the precession of the equinoxes. Kind of like a "turning" of the Universal Gears. It brings about the Great Harvest, and the return of the Lord of The Harvest.

    And the planet will complete it's Ascension to the Fourth Density, the vibrational Density of Love. During this Ascension, there will be a three way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must 'work off' our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity created on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.

    Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love and Light) will Ascend to a beautiful new 4th Density Earth, where you will begin to work upon your learning and demonstrating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and "Golden" Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works and wonders of the like that the one you call "Jesus" promised you would do "and even greater things than these". It will be a very magical time for you.

    For the majority of Humans on the earth who could be considered shall we say "luke warm", they will experience a period of (what will feel 'ecstatic') zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, and you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of 'Earth Replica'), to continue working upon yourselves and learning that life here is all about making choices. You will remain "quarantined" incarnating in 3rd Density matter until the time of the next Harvest; in which time you will need to have proved yourselves that you have learned how to be more Positive Beings, focused more upon being of Service to others, rather than seeking only to Serve yourself. When you can do this, and the next Harvest comes, you will have earned the right to join us, and enjoy your inheritance, as a member of the Galactic Community, and you will sit with us as Brothers and Sisters of The One, around the table of our Galactic Governing Body, the Confederation of Planets.

    Note that he writes december 21st "brings" the Great Harvest. So there must be significant events after this date.


    (01-05-2014, 01:04 AM)Parsons Wrote: Again, I'm not sure what they mean by fetched with some inconvenience. I wish Don would have asked them to define what they mean by that.

    Hidden Hand writes about this:

    Quote:There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.

    (...) Smaller Cycles yield a Harvest, and then life continues on the planet as normal. Great Cycles yield a Great Harvest, and the end of current life on the 3rd Density. See it as a kind of 'Cosmic jet wash' and deep clean, while the planet takes a rest and regenerates herself.

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    01-05-2014, 09:29 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2014, 09:30 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Thanks Poet for the quote about the 3 different populations. It was encouraging. I hope I am worthy of the positive polarity.
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