How would a highly STO-oriented society be organized in terms of politics?

[Adonai One]

In reality, it is most likely impossible that for instance every American agrees with a decision of the US government or even with the existence of this government. This means that some American people are forced to act differently than without government coercion. And this is a violation of the Law of Free Will, right? But this means that governments/states should be refused seen from an STO-orientation.

Actually, my understanding is that the law of free will/confusion is the entire reason these highly restrictive governments are even possible. Everyone in 3rd density has an extremely high degree of free will. Everyone's will can be pitted against each other and nobody's will is inherently overridden by anyone else's. It is the free will choice of those we accept as 'in charge' to restrict our free will. It is the overall free will of the masses to accept authority, otherwise said restrictive governments would be overthrown.

Could all these governments etc be because of our free will as a planetary consciousness as a whole? There are some entities here who are trying to polarize negatively, and most are unpolarized, so we have all kind of constellations which are not harmonious?

But speaking of highly STO-oriented "societies" or constellations, even Confederation has someone "above" them, so they can't do as they please. This "someone above" is the Council which must approve certain actions of Confederation entities would they have a suggestion in what way to aid us. Ra material is filled with such cases. Tbh, I find this weird... That there is such Council which must approve certain actions of Confederation entities, before these can be carried out. That there is no absolute freedom of will to act as Confederation finds fit...

This planet is under damage control. There was a significant chance this planet was going to become unsustainable. The Council exists under the stipulation that if it did not govern another group of entities with destructive/controlling intent will.

This goes without saying that the quarantine is designed to where there is equal representation of polarity. If you are not approved to enter this planet by The Council, you may simply try to come through the quarantine's windows.

The local governance of our planet goes far beyond this and the authority structure is far different: It micromanages and directs individuals. The Council exists to enable freewill.

[native]

Does the nature of societal control, laws and their enforcement lack polarity? Is "positive control of people" a genuine term?

There are general laws related to morality that seem relevant, such as don't kill, assault, steal, etc. In many cases of stealing, there are underlying issues however. Rather than sending a person to jail in such a case, there could be more compassionate solutions.

I was having a discussion with someone about the Common Core standards here in the US the other day. People are furious over it, saying the government has no business in changing such standards, and that it is an attempt to dumb America down. I choose not to believe the latter, but you can see that if society does not tend to its overall needs, who else will? So the government has to come in and attempt a solution and everyone gets pissed. You can see that people's free will choices, the separative lives we choose to live that creates imbalance on a societal level, leads to more distortion and unnecessary restriction.


83.14 Questioner: I would say that a very high percentage of the laws and restrictions within what we call our legal system are of a nature of enslavement of which I just spoke. Would you agree with this?

Ra: I am Ra. It is a necessary balance to the intention of law, which is to protect, that the result would encompass an equal distortion towards imprisonment. Therefore, we may say that your supposition is correct. This is not to denigrate those who, in green and blue-ray energies, sought to free a peaceable people from the bonds of chaos but only to point out the inevitable consequences of codification of response which does not recognize the uniqueness of each and every situation within your experience.

[Adonai One]

It is my distortion/belief that most individuals would provide for their own needs through their own voluntary groups if the government did not impose a monopoly on certain services through the force of law.

It is my distortion/belief that people are competent enough to take care of themselves without a monopolized authority.

It is my distortion/belief that to force people together who wish to be separate is not unity but violent assimilation.

It is my distortion/belief that the separative lives some of us live is only an imbalance caused by the violent impositions and incompetence that exist in today's authorities.

[native]

I agree that ideally, catalyst should express itself and grow until certain responsibilities are realized. That's always happening in some form or another. Unwritten agreements about how society functions are entirely possible, and people can always hold corporations and institutions accountable with their choices also.

[reeay]

People say capitalism is selfish but ironically capitalism is the only system that works when the majority are selfish! A STO society would be a money free co-operative imo.

Had these conversations with healer friends around money and they conceptualize it as energy exchange of sorts, that without some sort of exchange there would be imbalances created. Altho don't need money necessarily… other forms of exchanges may take its place.

[Poet]

I find all what was written really interesting. But I didn't refer to 4D. For me, it seemed quite obvious that a 4D-STO-society would exist without a government. It would be commonly accepted that every human being is an end in itself and can therefore not be the means for an otherself's end without mutual consent.
Also remember that every thought is transparent and observable for others. How should somebody commit a crime then? He/she cannot plan it, maybe it can happen affectively but this would just very rarely happen.

Actually, my understanding is that the law of free will/confusion is the entire reason these highly restrictive governments are even possible. Everyone in 3rd density has an extremely high degree of free will. Everyone's will can be pitted against each other and nobody's will is inherently overridden by anyone else's. It is the free will choice of those we accept as 'in charge' to restrict our free will. It is the overall free will of the masses to accept authority, otherwise said restrictive governments would be overthrown.

This is also my understanding...

The Law of Freewill, The Law of Responsibility and The Law of One seem to be accurate, objective foundations by which one could theorize from. Assuming love is the acceptance and compassion towards the will of others, one can easily see what a positive society would be like in principle.

I believe conditions and strict structures to any relationship are not condusive to true loving unity. Such only brings assimilation.

I think the same. But what do you exactly mean by the Law of One and the Law of Responsibility? You don't mean the whole content of the Ra material by the former, right? You also expressed my thinking very beautifully with your first post.


I also thought about this because I just read the book "The Ethics of Liberty" by Murray Rothbard, a political philosopher/economist. He develops a law code based on very few principles. These are:

1) Self-ownership (Everybody possesses his/her own body. It basically derives from the assumption that every human being has a free will which is inalienable).

2) Homesteading (If a human being mixes his labour with a piece of land which was unowned before, he owns this land).

Any thoughts? One could argue that it is a distortion of the Law of Free Will...

[Adonai One]

People say capitalism is selfish but ironically capitalism is the only system that works when the majority are selfish! A STO society would be a money free co-operative imo.

Had these conversations with healer friends around money and they conceptualize it as energy exchange of sorts, that without some sort of exchange there would be imbalances created. Altho don't need money necessarily… other forms of exchanges may take its place.

Exchanges won't be needed if services weren't conditional, and imbalance and unfairness were not perceived. If people didn't sacrifice themselves in a martyristic fashion and respected themselves, this would limit any possible "parasitism" as well. It will prevent the idea of anybody owing anything to another person. When debts, usury and obligation are used in society, things slowly degenerate into slavery.

A sign of a failing relationship is when the partners involved count what they do for each other and put debts over each others heads while having conditional demands and expectations of each other. Today's society reminds me of such a relationship.

True love is without expectation, obligation and conditions. Money and formal exchange is a form of strict, conditional love with a very thick wall of separation.

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2) Homesteading (If a human being mixes his labour with a piece of land which was unowned before, he owns this land).

Any thoughts? One could argue that it is a distortion of the Law of Free Will...

Property as a concept fades away when people respect each other's personal boundaries and scarcity of resources is no longer a factor. I believe property easily becomes an infringement on others when certain governments and organizations declare monopolies on nature, knowledge and methods of travel. Property is naturally a way of excluding others and it can become imbalanced as a concept to where people are controlling each other in a usuristic fashion. In a loving society, property goes as far as not dominating over people's personal space.

[ScottK]

I also thought about this because I just read the book "The Ethics of Liberty" by Murray Rothbard, a political philosopher/economist. He develops a law code based on very few principles. These are:

1) Self-ownership (Everybody possesses his/her own body. It basically derives from the assumption that every human being has a free will which is inalienable).

2) Homesteading (If a human being mixes his labour with a piece of land which was unowned before, he owns this land).

Any thoughts? One could argue that it is a distortion of the Law of Free Will...

The concept is known as sovereignty and those two points nail the high level concept pretty well, and it's probably the best mechanism that can be can be reinstated. That was essentially the government the founding fathers of the United States put into place. The group I'm involved with is beginning the process of ultimately restoring that government, though it will be a process. In my first post in this thread, I laid out the structure of what we are creating. The larger issue that needs to be addressed is when one sovereign's free will collides poorly with another sovereign's free will..

Also, the laws are already in place to fully own your land, and has been in law since the start of the country. People have forgotten how to use those laws though - people would have what is called a "Land Patent" on their land. The concept, I'm sure, is pretty well defined out on the internet if you do the research on it, but no one who has publicly tried to do it has done it correctly in law yet. Not for long though.. In my head, I'm working on the sign I'll have posted to put government officials on notice when they drive onto my land, and how they will be prosecuted should they try any of their normal crap on me on my land.

It's a lot more than that though - as with everything in our 3d reality, it's all about the money..

Did you know that the Federal Reserve's hundred year contract is done in 3 days? The contract could have been renewed, but the Fed has been deemed too corrupt to be allowed to continue on.. That doesn't mean that the fed is going away in 3 days, but........

[Poet]

Exchanges won't be needed if services weren't conditional, and imbalance and unfairness were not perceived. If people didn't sacrifice themselves in a martyristic fashion and respected themselves, this would limit any possible "parasitism" as well. It will prevent the idea of anybody owing anything to another person. When debts, usury and obligation are used in society, things slowly degenerate into slavery.

A sign of a failing relationship is when the partners involved count what they do for each other and put debts over each others heads while having conditional demands and expectations of each other. Today's society reminds me of such a relationship.

True love is without expectation, obligation and conditions. Money and formal exchange is a form of strict, conditional love with a very thick wall of separation.

On a spiritual level, you are right. But speaking in economic terms, money has a coordinating function in society. As long as resources are scarce, people cannot know in which part of the economy they can be used in the most effective way. Prices in money units show the producers where capital is most needed. One could also say: Prices show the producers where they can serve consumers the most.

If you have for instance a 4D-STO-society which wants to build crafts to travel in space, this society needs division of labour (I think it would be impossible for one person to build a craft). And it needs capital to build these crafts (production sheds, tools,...). And this capital is most likely distributed through a price system (=money) because it is the only mechanism which can coordinate people's needs and the production of these needs by other people. Profits show producers where capital is underused or needed and they regulate the flow of capital into the different branches of the economy. Consumer prices display the valuation of goods by consumers and they signal producers which quantity of each good must be produced according to people's needs.

This also means that private property would still be necessary, although it would not be so much explicitly emphasized. The other possibility I'm aware of would be central planning without a price system. But that means more control and the question is whether a central planer could even gain the information contained in the price system.

Property as a concept fades away when people respect each other's personal boundaries and scarcity of resources is no longer a factor. I believe property easily becomes an infringement on others when certain governments and organizations declare monopolies on nature, knowledge and methods of travel. Property is naturally a way of excluding others and it can become imbalanced as a concept to where people are controlling each other in a usuristic fashion. In a loving society, property goes as far as not dominating over people's personal space.

Full agreement. Property is defined by exclusiveness and can therefore unfold a seperating effect. I think it is a catalyst and its effect depends on the way it is used/seen. Jesus was for instance against property at all. As I wrote above, property could still be necessary in the sense that it is needed to establish a price system by the use of money.

The concept is known as sovereignty and those two points nail the high level concept pretty well, and it's probably the best mechanism that can be can be reinstated. That was essentially the government the founding fathers of the United States put into place. The group I'm involved with is beginning the process of ultimately restoring that government, though it will be a process. In my first post in this thread, I laid out the structure of what we are creating. The larger issue that needs to be addressed is when one sovereign's free will collides poorly with another sovereign's free will..

Also, the laws are already in place to fully own your land, and has been in law since the start of the country. People have forgotten how to use those laws though - people would have what is called a "Land Patent" on their land. The concept, I'm sure, is pretty well defined out on the internet if you do the research on it, but no one who has publicly tried to do it has done it correctly in law yet. Not for long though.. In my head, I'm working on the sign I'll have posted to put government officials on notice when they drive onto my land, and how they will be prosecuted should they try any of their normal crap on me on my land.

It's a lot more than that though - as with everything in our 3d reality, it's all about the money..

Did you know that the Federal Reserve's hundred year contract is done in 3 days? The contract could have been renewed, but the Fed has been deemed too corrupt to be allowed to continue on.. That doesn't mean that the fed is going away in 3 days, but........

Rothbard also refers to the founding fathers. The first principle of self-ownership is based on natural law and has common roots with the phrase "All men are created equal" in the Declaration of Independence. But Rothbard also writes that if one thinks this logically through, the government is a self-contradictory institution.

What I also thought about natural law is that it is a distortion of the Law of One. You have to make the assumption (because you can't prove it in science) that all humans have a free will and other faculties of the mind in common. So behind it stands the belief that all humans are equal, in other words: that all humans are one.

I didn't know what you wrote about the Fed. But it sounds interesting, I will look it up...

[Adonai One]

Poet, I think you underestimate the amount of trust and intimacy that can exist even in a large and demanding society. As humanity stands today, I understand your position.

I believe capitalism is simply training wheels for a society that lacks basic faith.

[Poet]

Poet, I think you underestimate the amount of trust and intimacy that can exist even in a large and demanding society. As humanity stands today, I understand your position.

I believe capitalism is simply training wheels for a society that lacks basic faith.

No, I don't think it is a problem of trust, but a problem of knowledge. There must be some kind of mechanism which coordinates the single actions of people if a society is highly developed. It can work without it in small communities when technology is not so advanced. But when spezialization and division of labour increases, nobody can possibly know how much resources are needed and where they are needed.

[Adonai One]

The solution is inherently caring about the amount of resources used and who needs them. This is an ideal used in human governmental institutions which fails horribly due to a lack of care/love in the workers and leaders.

[Light of Wisdom]

The larger issue that needs to be addressed is when one sovereign's free will collides poorly with another sovereign's free will..

This most of all, has to do with levels of awareness/consciousness of an individual. Which is has been a particularly difficult thing to cater to on Earth, since we have souls from all over the universe. There is an enormous variety and quantity of input, which necessitates violation of free will for the purpose of social cohesion.

Planets where souls are much closer in "nature" lack this problem as everyone pretty much works harmoniously. Thus it's a problem having to do with issues at the core level and cannot be legislated for in any single way via any current 3rd density apparatus. Hence the catalyst, almost everywhere you turn.

This is why STO societies are "theme" based. The theme relates to the feeling of the community itself, ie the vibration of the souls within and the particular goals the community envisions carrying out. Individuals can "outgrow" a community and would need to move out to another one of similar vibration and purpose.

The various communities inter-depend upon one another, resource-wise and for knowledge/wisdom.

There is no easy way to provide a safety net for nation states for current 3rd density populations. It would also decrease catalyst for them.
Icaro said it on the first page, repeating the age old wisdom, you do not solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created it, if a permanent solution to it, is what you want.
This would also be the reason why you don't see higher density beings walk permanently among those of lower densities. The vast difference in use of free will would rob the lower density beings of the purpose of being who and where they are.

But if you want to solve the problem of free will being in conflict, within 3rd density cultural training needs to be provided to teach entities to honor and respect each point of view. This is all of course with the veil in place, where oneness cannot be felt or observed.
A culture of opportunity for both parties to go forth and explore their self-expression in their own way.
Also a third party, a "council" is needed as referee to provide impartiality and equal opportunity. In the past, elders of the tribe usually had this responsibility.

Plato's "philosopher ruler" is as close to this as you can get. But how often have we had that.

People say capitalism is selfish but ironically capitalism is the only system that works when the majority are selfish! A STO society would be a money free co-operative imo.

Had these conversations with healer friends around money and they conceptualize it as energy exchange of sorts, that without some sort of exchange there would be imbalances created. Altho don't

need money necessarily… other forms of exchanges may take its place.

The problem is that it's a set system. It does bring temporary balance, yes, but no polarization. Yes there is no "wanton taking" going on, there is an effort to compensate fairly, but as soon as you have a set system of exchange, there is an expectation of return on your investment and that in turn means that money is an instrument of service to self polarization. It's an eye for an eye, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours system.

Even when the exchange is fair/adequate, it is expected, thus not selfless in nature.

Mainstream society through the instrument of money, reinforces the selfish nature already present within individuals and enhances it, depolarizing vast masses of people, for vast amounts of time.

Which is why it's so difficult for anyone to let go of money within mainstream society. You would have to create a separate community that internally had no dependency on self-serving expressions to completely sever this link and begin to practice STO ideals, in all the ways that it is possible to do so.

This can be seen is some places of the world, they operate with precisely these standards. Trade with mainstream society is done via a product the self-contained community produces and sells for money, in order to purchase technology that is not produced within.

There is dependence on the parent, to the degree of the inner level of growth of such a new community. But this slowly decreases.

Only within such communities could free energy work, on a level of responsible use.

[Melissa]

In unity there is no need for any kind of governmental structure, as all actions take place from a place of love. It's organic and harmonious. Gracious, creative and free. I always thought that's the way we were supposed to be living, as some unrealistic ideal. But it's actually how I, and I believe many brothers and sisters, remember it to be.

[native]

Planets where souls are much closer in "nature" lack this problem as everyone pretty much works harmoniously. Thus it's a problem having to do with issues at the core level and cannot be legislated for in any single way via any current 3rd density apparatus. Hence the catalyst, almost everywhere you turn.

I agree. Addressing this disconnection from nature seems to accomplish all aspects of service required. You heal and cooperate with the planet, while attempting to provide for those in need with healthy and sustainable solutions. By reaching out to the disenfranchised, it is a teaching in and of itself by giving without expectation of return..no complex system of knowledge needs to be conveyed.

This also seems to be one method in which we provide solutions that are non-infringing. By honoring the needs of nature, what we might call natural law, we offer solutions and a method of service that works within the boundaries set by nature, healing all. There will be of course those that feel this is necessarily restrictive, and therefore infringing.

[Spaced]

I think even in a highly STO society there would be a hierarchy present, it would be a different sort of hierarchy than we are used to though. Rather than those willing and able to take the top positions being in charge it would be more of a teacher/student hierarchy. There will always be some who have wisdom to share with others and those who wish to learn will gravitate to those entities. This form of hierarchy would grow organically from the interactions of the society and the recognition of the qualities the individual and would be of benefit to all parties concerned.

[Fang]

Meritocracy.
100% inheritance tax.
Philosopher king.
Unicorns.

I see no problem with this proposal.
Of course, a highly STO oriented society could be any form of government, like Rie said it would just have to fit the needs of the people (hence "Service to others") and of course the needs of a people involves universal constants and also localized variables specific to the circumstances of the people in question so we can offer nothing on the subject but musings.

Amusing musings tho don't get me wrong :p

[Poet]

(...) but as soon as you have a set system of exchange, there is an expectation of return on your investment and that in turn means that money is an instrument of service to self polarization. It's an eye for an eye, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours system.

Even when the exchange is fair/adequate, it is expected, thus not selfless in nature.

Mainstream society through the instrument of money, reinforces the selfish nature already present within individuals and enhances it, depolarizing vast masses of people, for vast amounts of time.

Why should there always be such an expectation? This is an assumption and not a fact. Money is a catalyst and its effect on polarization depends on the way it is used. This reinforcement may be true for a lot of people, but the reason for this is not that money exists in our society. You can do a lot of service with it, you don't have to keep it. And a normal exchange is in general neutral in terms of polarization: You take but you also serve.

[Adonai One]

Money as a system implies attachment and a state of scarcity and unsatisifaction. When goods are so demanded that money is needed to account for said demand, there is a likelihood of imbalance.

As a tool it is neutral but its necessity is not so much. I highly doubt there are systems of 6-7 archetypes that have money that are balanced.

[zenmaster]

(...) but as soon as you have a set system of exchange, there is an expectation of return on your investment and that in turn means that money is an instrument of service to self polarization. It's an eye for an eye, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours system.

Even when the exchange is fair/adequate, it is expected, thus not selfless in nature.

Mainstream society through the instrument of money, reinforces the selfish nature already present within individuals and enhances it, depolarizing vast masses of people, for vast amounts of time.

Why should there always be such an expectation? This is an assumption and not a fact. Money is a catalyst and its effect on polarization depends on the way it is used. This reinforcement may be true for a lot of people, but the reason for this is not that money exists in our society. You can do a lot of service with it, you don't have to keep it. And a normal exchange is in general neutral in terms of polarization: You take but you also serve.

In the way it was worded is actually a phenomenon, which exists. So there is no "expectation'. And it was not phrased in all inclusive terms...

[Poet]

Money as a system implies attachment and a state of scarcity and unsatisifaction. When goods are so demanded that money is needed to account for said demand, there is a likelihood of imbalance.

As a tool it is neutral but its necessity is not so much. I highly doubt there are systems of 6-7 archetypes that have money that are balanced.

I don't understand what you meant with the archetypes. Do you want to say that the emergence of money implies certain conditions (scarcity, attachement,...) which make negative polatization more likely? The use of money is not the problem so to say, but the conditions which led to its emergence?

[Adonai One]

Indeed.

[zenmaster]

Money never was just paper or medium of exchange. It is a reduced measure of worth or value. An infinite quality reduced to a finite quantity.

[ScottK]

There is an enormous variety and quantity of input, which necessitates violation of free will for the purpose of social cohesion.

You have that all bassackwards..

The problem that created the mess we have in our world is a lack of free will, and the denial by those who control us of our free will - along with healthy doses of indoctrination by the same parties.

The United States of America was as close as one could get to a fourth density government at its inception as has been created on earth, but shortly thereafter was recaptured by the Crown.

you do not solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created it, if a permanent solution to it, is what you want.

exactly..

You don't deny free will to create free will - that's just silly..

But if you want to solve the problem of free will being in conflict, within 3rd density cultural training needs to be provided to teach entities to honor and respect each point of view.

You don't teach that - what you suggest is called "indoctrination". Respecting one another as brothers and sisters is a free will choice arrived at through experience.

The way this will happen is through what the indigenous peoples would call "purification", as the structures of the control grid of our world fall apart. I suspect that many who are incapable of living in a fourth density positive world (those polarizing negative) will be departing our world by their own free will when this happens (in other words, killing each other or themselves), and all those remaining will receive a healthy lesson..

Watch what happens to money this year.. Don't believe anything anyone is saying on the internet about that subject as scarce few even have any kind of remote clue what will happen.. Money is potentially a tool to serve man, however, it has been converted into a weapon of mass destruction by the elite.

A culture of opportunity for both parties to go forth and explore their self-expression in their own way.
Also a third party, a "council" is needed as referee to provide impartiality and equal opportunity. In the past, elders of the tribe usually had this responsibility.

So you are suggesting the creation of a new elite? Oy.. I couldn't disagree more.

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Money as a system implies attachment and a state of scarcity and unsatisifaction. When goods are so demanded that money is needed to account for said demand, there is a likelihood of imbalance.

The creation and use of money today is designed to prop up the interests of an elite. Resources in the world are not scarce, but the money has been made scarce to the common man or woman so hence, resources seem scarce. This is so the elite can gain greater control and ascend to higher levels on their STS pyramid pecking order BS whatever deal..

This problem is quite resolvable, though don't expect the resolution to be pretty.

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Actually, my understanding is that the law of free will/confusion is the entire reason these highly restrictive governments are even possible. Everyone in 3rd density has an extremely high degree of free will. Everyone's will can be pitted against each other and nobody's will is inherently overridden by anyone else's. It is the free will choice of those we accept as 'in charge' to restrict our free will. It is the overall free will of the masses to accept authority, otherwise said restrictive governments would be overthrown.

The restrictive government is allowed because it creates catalyst to make a choice towards harvest. At the highest levels, there is neutrality desired between the dark and light.

The dark seems to have the upper hand right now, but that doesn't mean that advantage will last..

[reeay]

I thought the problem was lack of awareness in carefully exercising our free will; leaning towards naïveté and propensity to be easily swayed without using our critical thinking skills to see the bigger picture of what is happening. People who are still in blue and orange valuing meme will gladly follow authority and focus on individual achievement because that is the stage of development they are in, just as children follow the authority of their parents and teachers without much questioning. Not to say they are children but they have not reached a stage where they begin to think in more abstract terms and question what they experience. This truth movement then is beginning to question, and among that is a propensity to become suspicious and anti authority... An attempt to regain back sense of power, that is still at the orange/yellow ray working. So what we see is not necessarily that we lack something but attempting to become more conscious about how we experience the world and to seek self so that we are increasingly making our own choices, which requires much understanding of self and acceptance of self.

[neutral333]

Libertarian - the basics of which is "you are free to be you and I me as long as being you doesn't mess with my freedom and vice versa."

[ScottK]

The idea was expressed in this thread that the ideal way to create a fourth density government might be through violations of free will and indoctrination. The following is a very interesting read with regard to that subject. You have to read the whole thing though.

http://www.darkgovernment.com/omega.html

[sarina]

Perhaps STO higher realms don't need the 3rd density concept of "Politics". Politics/Economics are intimately related. The "economic/political reality" in our present 3rd density model appears to be based on "survival of the fittest". We seem to inhabit a realm that is by definition STS. Just look around you. Even Nature give us clues about our present School. Just see how, in order to have a roof and bread on your table for yourself and family you have to go work for a company, institutions or others that are STS in their goals and by their very nature. These entities suck your energy and time just so you can sub-exist. Not have a fulfilling life. Just SUB-Exist.

As I told a friend recently: "If you are in third grade, do you graduate to fourth grade by learning fourth grade lessons, or by learning the lessons of your current grade?" In other words, we are 3rd grade students who aspire to be 4rd grade graduation candidates. This aspiration is acted upon by our actions in the face of our multiple realities that has an underlying common denominator. The STS forces that challenges our free will on a continuing basis. Choices. Choices.

I do not think that "Politics" as we understand the concept in 3rd density is a semantically or symbolically correct term when referring to Higher STO realms. I think that "Politics" is a semantic construction that applies to our present 3rd density realm. It's serves a purpose in the lessons we live/learn.

However, there might be Hierarchies. Units of Consciousness that in the absence of time/space as we know it already have the Knowledge we lack and we are just learning about. These entities that I suspect are US in the future (4th, 5th, 6th Density) have no need for a STS concept such as "Politics".

I do think that STS entities in 3rd and 4th density do fully embrace a hierarchy system that very much resembles "Politics".

It's an inverted image. Similar to looking in a mirror and seeing everything inverted.

This is just my humble contribution to this thread.

Love and Light to all of You.

[irpsit]

Anarchism and state-less communism are beautiful utopian ideas, which I fully dream of, but they don't work in a STS dominated world. For example, the Paris commune of 1871 and the anarchistic Catalonia of the 1930s were good attempts to jump society to a much freer society but failed when the state and some different political factions invaded them.

I have two sources of inspiration for a 4D STO society.

One is that of the movie the Green Beautiful. People govern themselves spontaneously by meeting together, and creating consensus decision groups. They are also highly tuned.

Another is that of the book Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin. A communal anarchistic society, with an anonymous central group just objectively administrating how things run. That group changes every once in a while. People are free to join.

In our current world, some intencional communities and cooperatives are trying to manifest better forms of societal organization. Anything that is horizontal, gives everyone a change, and respects free will, is on the path for a 4D STO society. And there is a lot to learn along the way, not letting our egos interfeere and serve others (the collective) above self. But this only works if people are in a similar path.

Mainstream society through the instrument of money, reinforces the selfish nature already present within individuals and enhances it, depolarizing vast masses of people, for vast amounts of time.

Which is why it's so difficult for anyone to let go of money within mainstream society. You would have to create a separate community that internally had no dependency on self-serving expressions to completely sever this link and begin to practice STO ideals, in all the ways that it is possible to do so.

[Fastidious Emanations]

I didn't read any posts here (please excuse), but as a 'rule of thumb' I'd say look towards social-memory-complex structure and how that could theoretically exist. Fill in the blank(s).