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    Aion (Offline)

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    #61
    03-28-2017, 12:41 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2017, 12:43 PM by Aion.)
    What we must do is bring it in to the light and in to contact with its opposite principle, Ma'at. This is done through striving towards greater balance in our own lives, for right now it is sowing chaos everywhere it can in order to try and uproot anyone who might threaten its hunting. Thus it will try to disrupt the heart and emotions especially for this can easily create chaos between people.

    There is a principle for the Hermeticist that one can use 'laws against laws' rather than to 'break the laws'.

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    03-28-2017, 12:53 PM
    (03-28-2017, 10:58 AM)Spaced Wrote: Chaos magic enacted in the name of white supremacy "for laughs."

    [Image: k4UUfgK.gif]

    [Image: not-sure-if-lmao-or-smh-meme-46918.jpg]

    Quote:In September 2016, an article published on Hillary Clinton's campaign website described Pepe as "a symbol associated with white supremacy" and denounced Donald Trump's campaign for its supposed promotion of the meme. The same month, the two sources for Nuzzi's Daily Beast article revealed to The Daily Caller that they had coordinated beforehand to mislead Nuzzi (particularly about the existence of a campaign) under the expectation that she would uncritically repeat what she was told, with one saying, "Basically, I interspersed various nuggets of truth and exaggerated a lot of things, and sometimes outright lied — in the interest of making a journalist believe that online Trump supporters are largely a group of meme-jihadis who use a cartoon frog to push Nazi propaganda. Because this was funny to me." The Anti-Defamation League, an American organization opposed to antisemitism, included Pepe in its hate symbol database but noted that most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog


    Quote:PEPE THE FROG CREATOR CALLS HATE SYMBOL DESIGNATION ‘ABSURD’
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    Earlier this month, Hillary Clinton’s team published an Pepe the Frog explainer that explicitly tied it to white supremacy. The piece concludes with encouragement to go out and vote. Furie points out that there are racist versions of many popular memes—“You could look up Nazi Grumpy Cat”—you just have to search for them.

    “I just think [the ADL] is trying to back Hillary’s claim that [Pepe] is mostly a symbol used in and reappropriated for white supremacy,” says Furie. “It's just not true. It's used just as much by teenage kids to describe watching Netflix or having a bad day at school.”
    ...
    http://www.newsweek.com/pepe-frog-matt-f...bol-504432
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    Quote:Political journalists have come to view Pepe as inextricably tied to white nationalism, but that’s only because they’re often the target of pranksters and trolls. Matt Furie created Pepe in the early 2000s and told The Atlantic the link between Pepe and white nationalism is exaggerated and really not much more than a phase, one out of many evolutionary stages the frog has undergone.

    And most importantly, it’s just not true that the biggest online supporters of Donald Trump are “white nationalists.”...“The idea that every major Trump supporter online is secretly a neo-Nazi, for one. I mean, it’s just not true. But it’s the kind of thing that a journalist will readily believe.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/14/heres-...z4cdgjjjVV

    [Image: why-is-there-a-frog-standing-directly-be...765071.png]

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    03-28-2017, 12:58 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2017, 12:58 PM by Spaced.)
    (03-28-2017, 12:53 PM)isis Wrote:
    (03-28-2017, 10:58 AM)Spaced Wrote: Chaos magic enacted in the name of white supremacy "for laughs."

    [Image: k4UUfgK.gif]

    [Image: not-sure-if-lmao-or-smh-meme-46918.jpg]

    Quote:In September 2016, an article published on Hillary Clinton's campaign website described Pepe as "a symbol associated with white supremacy" and denounced Donald Trump's campaign for its supposed promotion of the meme. The same month, the two sources for Nuzzi's Daily Beast article revealed to The Daily Caller that they had coordinated beforehand to mislead Nuzzi (particularly about the existence of a campaign) under the expectation that she would uncritically repeat what she was told, with one saying, "Basically, I interspersed various nuggets of truth and exaggerated a lot of things, and sometimes outright lied — in the interest of making a journalist believe that online Trump supporters are largely a group of meme-jihadis who use a cartoon frog to push Nazi propaganda. Because this was funny to me." The Anti-Defamation League, an American organization opposed to antisemitism, included Pepe in its hate symbol database but noted that most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog


    Quote:PEPE THE FROG CREATOR CALLS HATE SYMBOL DESIGNATION ‘ABSURD’
    ...
    Earlier this month, Hillary Clinton’s team published an Pepe the Frog explainer that explicitly tied it to white supremacy. The piece concludes with encouragement to go out and vote. Furie points out that there are racist versions of many popular memes—“You could look up Nazi Grumpy Cat”—you just have to search for them.

    “I just think [the ADL] is trying to back Hillary’s claim that [Pepe] is mostly a symbol used in and reappropriated for white supremacy,” says Furie. “It's just not true. It's used just as much by teenage kids to describe watching Netflix or having a bad day at school.”
    ...
    http://www.newsweek.com/pepe-frog-matt-f...bol-504432
    [Image: AySlswa.png]


    Quote:Political journalists have come to view Pepe as inextricably tied to white nationalism, but that’s only because they’re often the target of pranksters and trolls. Matt Furie created Pepe in the early 2000s and told The Atlantic the link between Pepe and white nationalism is exaggerated and really not much more than a phase, one out of many evolutionary stages the frog has undergone.

    And most importantly, it’s just not true that the biggest online supporters of Donald Trump are “white nationalists.”...“The idea that every major Trump supporter online is secretly a neo-Nazi, for one. I mean, it’s just not true. But it’s the kind of thing that a journalist will readily believe.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/14/heres-...z4cdgjjjVV

    [Image: why-is-there-a-frog-standing-directly-be...765071.png]

    isis do you speak any languages or just memes and wikipedia links?

    I can just as easily post a bunch of links saying the exact opposite of yours and it would have as little impact as your post. This is just so intellectually lazy.
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    03-28-2017, 02:38 PM (This post was last modified: 03-28-2017, 07:25 PM by isis.)
    (03-28-2017, 12:58 PM)Spaced Wrote: isis do you speak any languages or just memes and wikipedia links?

    cute



    personally, i think everything always happens exactly as it's meant to, whether with or w/o magic, & i think it's awesome that this frog-headed ancient egyptian mythological deity is becoming so popular & i'm loving how i keep getting synchronicities surrounding him.

    SOMEONE SHOULD TRY TO CHANNEL KEK!
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    03-28-2017, 03:16 PM
    To isis satiric point --

    SOMEONE SHOULD TRY TO CHANNEL KEK!

    Rather than channel...anyone here practice tarot divination and want to share a reading? Address questions related to the OP and later posts ie Kek and Pepe the Frog.

    This idea just came as I checked for updates of the March 26 event that seem slow to be published. But this earlier article of a 3-card tarot read by one of the lead Spell Binders was interesting.

    http://michaelmhughes.com/trump-trumps-t...ald-trump/

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    03-28-2017, 03:22 PM
    Eh, even though I find Kek amusing I have to generally agree that it's largely an egregore, a manifestation of the collective willpower of a lot of pissed off people. I wouldn't recommend trying to contact such an entity since it's largely a ball of psychic "f*** you." As for Kek being the god of darkness. He's a frog. He represents transitioning from waters of chaos to the land of order. In a sense he's a light bringer, one who makes order from chaos. Worshipping such an entity as the One Creator would be a huge distortion. But it is an important and primal concept. Also I believe the very "negative" characters who formed kek are working in such a manner to bring crucial hidden truths to light. This is a significant service.

    Carl Jung also speaks of frogs as being the symbols of personality formed from the collective unconsciousness. I think Kek represents, in part, a herald of the formation of a social memory complex. It's very immature, very chaotic, very angry. But I mean, it's a birth. Who wouldn't be a bit pissed off being born into this world? Give it a few hundred years to mature and I think you'd be surprised.
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    03-28-2017, 03:28 PM
    Well, I've learned all of what I said from astral scrying, which is basically the same as I do with the Tarot cards. I could ask the cards but I have the feeling they would just offer ways to 'resolve' the energy. They are like that.
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    03-29-2017, 01:47 AM
    Kek is a very weak egregore, entropy is a b**** to chaos.  It isn't a God.  I've tried explaining this several ways as an anon on /x/ (since I prefer the /x/ board...) and some people see and many just scream PRAISE KEK REEEEEEE--

    I don't know that kek is related to white supremacy, I.think it accidentally got lumped in with that label as a political issue more than an 'intentional' one.

    If people stopped filling kek with chaos energy they'd have actually a very powerful egregore, the /pol/ populace is 'thick' with 'dense' energy to be greatly transformed and transmuted.  The good to be done by it would quickly overpower the bad on a collective level.

    But as I said...  Its 4chan, the feces-covered toilet paper of the internet -_-
    And who takes the time to thank used toilet paper sitting there screaming REEEEEEEEEE KEKEKEKEKE--
    Smh

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    03-29-2017, 01:49 AM
    Someone should post this thread on x or pol and be like 'want to learn the truth of what kek actually is?'

    Though they might flip their nuts and DDOS the site lol...

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    03-29-2017, 02:44 AM
    Yeah, telling 4Chan about this site would be a very bad idea, I think.
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    03-29-2017, 02:46 AM
    (03-29-2017, 02:44 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Yeah, telling 4Chan about this site would be a very bad idea, I think.

    yeesh, that gave me a lil shiver right there
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    03-29-2017, 07:24 AM
    (03-29-2017, 01:47 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I don't know that kek is related to white supremacy, I.think it accidentally got lumped in with that label as a political issue more than an 'intentional' one.

    same here.

    Quote:Because Pepe has become this chaotic, fluid, shapeshifting thing he ends up acting like a mirror in the same way water acts as a mirror. And the way that works is that because there's so many images of Pepe that when people look into that huge chaos of images they can't encompass all of it. They have to mentally order it.

    In ordering it, they use their own mental patterns. That is, they project their thinking into this chaos and as they force the chaos to take shape it becomes an image of their own ideas, their own ideological possessions.

    One of the things that has been happening is that some on the people on the right, what some groups are calling the Alt-right, or whatever, have been using this effect to act as a mirror against the social justice warrior types. It even went so far as for the SJWs to declare Pepe a hate symbol.

    By declaring publically that he's a hate symbol the SJWs are pointing out their own absurdity, but hiding in this is an even larger irony. If you look at the images that they pulled out as being racist images there's this strange contradiction involved.

    You see, on one side there's a Hitler Pepe, KKK Pepe, Trump Pepe... while on the other side there's the scheming Jew, the African American and the Mexican. This means that Pepe is at the same time the archetypal oppressor as seen from the side of the victim all the while being the archetypal scapegoat seen by the side of the oppressor.

    That is Pepe is both sides of racism at the same time. When the SJWs look at that, automatically without even thinking they organize it through their ideology. It exposes their program because they automatically decide that when Pepe is Hitler or KKK or Trump Pepe is identifying with those people. Yet when Pepe is a scheming Jew or a Mexican Pepe is mocking and criticizing those people.

    Why is such an absurd image of Hitler as a cartoon frog not considered mocking Hitler? In fact, all the SJWs are seeing is a reflection of themselves, of their nightmare, of their shadow. The rather pathological desire we've seen in the past few months to accuse everyone of being Hitler or a neo-Nazi or a white nationalist is an expression of their secret desire. The desire to be confirmed through an encounter with their projected "Other".

    It's funny because the discourse of "Otherness" has been an ideological tool of the Left since the 1960s and now we're at a time when it has come back to haunt them.

    So by using this strategy the people have been wielding this Pepe image have taken advantage of the power of chaos, taken advantage of what happens when the frog jumps into the pond and goes down to the bottom to find the golden ball.

    The frog can't stay in the water forever. That's the most important thing. At some point you have to finish the story. At some point the frog has to get the golden ball and bring it back to the surface of the water.

    (03-29-2017, 01:49 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Someone should post this thread on x or pol and be like 'want to learn the truth of what kek actually is?'

    Though they might flip their nuts and DDOS the site lol...

    i'm gonna do it. :)
    i'll be like: CHECK IT OUT, RATARDS DISCUSSING KEKTARDS!

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    #73
    03-29-2017, 07:34 AM
    (03-29-2017, 02:46 AM)sjel Wrote:
    (03-29-2017, 02:44 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Yeah, telling 4Chan about this site would be a very bad idea, I think.

    yeesh, that gave me a lil shiver right there

    Some people just want to see nice things burn.

    I'm not sure if there's a single worse idea than that.
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    03-29-2017, 07:55 AM
    (03-29-2017, 07:24 AM)isis Wrote:
    (03-29-2017, 01:47 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I don't know that kek is related to white supremacy, I.think it accidentally got lumped in with that label as a political issue more than an 'intentional' one.

    same here.



    Quote:Because Pepe has become this chaotic, fluid, shapeshifting thing he ends up acting like a mirror in the same way water acts as a mirror. And the way that works is that because there's so many images of Pepe that when people look into that huge chaos of images they can't encompass all of it. They have to mentally order it.

    In ordering it, they use their own mental patterns. That is, they project their thinking into this chaos and as they force the chaos to take shape it becomes an image of their own ideas, their own ideological possessions.

    One of the things that has been happening is that some on the people on the right, what some groups are calling the Alt-right, or whatever, have been using this effect to act as a mirror against the social justice warrior types. It even went so far as for the SJWs to declare Pepe a hate symbol.

    By declaring publically that he's a hate symbol the SJWs are pointing out their own absurdity, but hiding in this is an even larger irony. If you look at the images that they pulled out as being racist images there's this strange contradiction involved.

    You see, on one side there's a Hitler Pepe, KKK Pepe, Trump Pepe... while on the other side there's the scheming Jew, the African American and the Mexican. This means that Pepe is at the same time the archetypal oppressor as seen from the side of the victim all the while being the archetypal scapegoat seen by the side of the oppressor.

    That is Pepe is both sides of racism at the same time. When the SJWs look at that, automatically without even thinking they organize it through their ideology. It exposes their program because they automatically decide that when Pepe is Hitler or KKK or Trump Pepe is identifying with those people. Yet when Pepe is a scheming Jew or a Mexican Pepe is mocking and criticizing those people.

    Why is such an absurd image of Hitler as a cartoon frog not considered mocking Hitler? In fact, all the SJWs are seeing is a reflection of themselves, of their nightmare, of their shadow. The rather pathological desire we've seen in the past few months to accuse everyone of being Hitler or a neo-Nazi or a white nationalist is an expression of their secret desire. The desire to be confirmed through an encounter with their projected "Other".

    It's funny because the discourse of "Otherness" has been an ideological tool of the Left since the 1960s and now we're at a time when it has come back to haunt them.

    So by using this strategy the people have been wielding this Pepe image have taken advantage of the power of chaos, taken advantage of what happens when the frog jumps into the pond and goes down to the bottom to find the golden ball.

    The frog can't stay in the water forever. That's the most important thing. At some point you have to finish the story. At some point the frog has to get the golden ball and bring it back to the surface of the water.

    (03-29-2017, 01:49 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Someone should post this thread on x or pol and be like 'want to learn the truth of what kek actually is?'

    Though they might flip their nuts and DDOS the site lol...

    i'm gonna do it.  Smile
    i'll be like: CHECK IT OUT, RATARDS DISCUSSING KEKTARDS!

    It's funny how well Ratard actually describes some of us lol

    Min, some people want to see creation burn Wink

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    03-29-2017, 07:57 AM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2017, 07:54 PM by isis.)
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/118777303



    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/11...q118777303

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    #76
    03-29-2017, 07:58 AM
    (03-29-2017, 07:57 AM)isis Wrote: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/118777303

    Seems like Spaced hit your sensible nerve a tad too hard, he was right though.

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    03-29-2017, 08:31 AM
    (03-29-2017, 07:57 AM)isis Wrote: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/118777303

    And this is why we love you Isis lol

    Nice OP btw Wink

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    03-29-2017, 08:36 AM
    Hello forum full of whackos, it's good to know others see us for what we truly are BigSmile

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    03-29-2017, 08:43 AM
    Fun fact: since posting that thread Isis, the guest count on this forum jumped up by about 30, and almost all of them are reading this thread.
    Hey, /pol/, what uuup, take a look around.

    We're believers in 'The Law of One', if you peruse your friendly ne/x/t board neighbors you might recognize the term, or this website; lawofone.info.

    We're all crazy here by the way but oriented towards love and peace as opposed to your chaos, still.  The influence of kek has now caused us to meet for whatever reason.  Try not to destroy us too hard, yeah? Heart

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    03-29-2017, 08:45 AM
    (03-29-2017, 07:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Min, some people want to see creation burn Wink

    Ultimately though, what they desire gone is their own reflection.

    That is the root of all appeal toward chaos and destruction.
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    03-29-2017, 08:47 AM
    You should post on that thread Isis made, I think someone could learn a lot by you lol

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    03-29-2017, 09:17 AM
    (03-29-2017, 08:47 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: You should post on that thread Isis made, I think someone could learn a lot by you lol

    Well what lead me to this place is the seeking toward the Law of One and being among those of a similar seeking, which makes the interactions fruitful as there is a core toward acceptance of what is and not its rejection and a seeking of unity among the people and their dissonances.

    Chaos and order to me are pretty much intertwined. This order is a form chaos of itself and there is already infinitely otherwise in which you also experience yourself. Just as there is a plane in which all that is seen is the Void and from which you can learn that all order is made by your own will and desires as you are the One. That the sole thing keeping you away from experiencing a Void is your very own beingness that desires it not.

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    03-29-2017, 09:50 AM
    Shadilay.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTl80wZv8YE
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    03-29-2017, 09:50 AM
    Hah...  I see I have a personal hater lol...

    And Min, your post got quoted too.

    Oh /pol/, you're like /x/, you'll never change v-v

    118786016 Wrote:That Coordinate_Apotheosis is so buthurt about 4chen... I bet he sucks dicks for hobby, is a n---er or worst, has a vagina.

    118787095 Wrote:That's not all, that minyatur guy is a fucking retard too haha! Listen to this!

    >Chaos and order to me are pretty much intertwined. This order is a form chaos of itself and there is already infinitely otherwise in which you also experience yourself. Just as there is a plane in which all that is seen is the Void and from which you can learn that all order is made by your own will and desires as you are the One. That the sole thing keeping you away from experiencing a Void is your very own beingness that desires it not.

    What is this fucking guy smoking? I want some!

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I still am -_-

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    03-29-2017, 10:02 AM
    (03-29-2017, 09:50 AM)Toad Acolyte Wrote: Shadilay.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTl80wZv8YE

    So what can you tell us 'ratards' about Kek?

    I know I have my reservations but I still believe Kek is real in the form of an egregore and not so much a god, we don't need to agree, I still find your...Culture interesting and I'd like to hear some perspectives about kek that aren't just PRAISE KEK REEEEE--

    So, about kek, why do you follow and praise him?

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    03-29-2017, 10:03 AM (This post was last modified: 03-29-2017, 10:06 AM by Coordinate_Apotheosis.)
    OH, and Isis, it's funny that the same guy calling Min a retard also called you a guy and told you to kill yourself.

    What's up with that? You'd think you were helping them by spreading the kekfluence.

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    03-29-2017, 10:08 AM
    (03-29-2017, 09:50 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I still am -_-

    Yeah, you should not really be any suprised.

    I don't really mind being called a retard for my views, from my point of view they'll see things my way eventually. Guess for some enlightment will come only at the moment of their death when they move into what is unknown to them, for others they will seek to know this unknown while alive.

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    03-29-2017, 10:09 AM
    I'm glad you're not insulted by it.  I'm a bit insulted hah.  But hey, that's just cause I'm a sensitive guy...

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    #89
    03-29-2017, 10:09 AM
    (03-29-2017, 10:03 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: OH, and Isis, it's funny that the same guy calling Min a retard also called you a guy and told you to kill yourself.

    What's up with that?  You'd think you were helping them by spreading the kekfluence.

    More like she's a tool to this energy and this energy seeks not harmony.

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    #90
    03-29-2017, 10:11 AM
    (03-29-2017, 10:09 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I'm glad you're not insulted by it.  I'm a bit insulted hah.  But hey, that's just cause I'm a sensitive guy...

    I doubt you'd be able to have a single thought you couldn't find someone to call you a retard for, the beauty of relativity.

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