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    Thread: How to Remove Negative Entities From Our Lives


    BrownEye Away

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    #61
    07-30-2011, 11:48 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2011, 11:51 PM by BrownEye.)
    Quote:I did also notice that a massive coronal hole opened on the sun yesterday. May or may not be related.
    I would say definitely related. The energies on the planet are so out of whack, and those not yet converted to 4D activation are going to endure some forced "cleansing" as a way to get them to activate. Activations will be dependant on a wide range of choices.
    Psychic attacks and astral attacks for me seem to be a physical "barb" or pain, rather than an internal embodied type of possession. The sneaky forms feeling me up for weak spots like a feather across the back or a tingling feeling. Your sense of energy into top of head makes me think universe or sun. Bad stuff entering the body shell likes to come in near the anus.

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    07-31-2011, 12:17 AM
    Im not sure what the cause of that would be, but the next time something happens I would suggest at least trying the whole envisioning the protective light thing, and also summoning instant karma, and pushing back the pain to who or whatever is sending it. Have you pissed anyone off that you know of? Or could it be random due to something picking up on your energy? sounds full on tho!

    I have never had feet issues but toward the peak of my problems with that girl I started getting sudden and quite debilitating foot cramps. I didn't attribute it to anything at first but one night last week after she started a fight with me that day, the cramp happened worse than ever before, and was coming in waves and I just had the thought to do that (telling myself that I am protected by light and love, and telling myself that I do not accept this pain and it can go back wherever it has come from" and after about 5 mins of repeating that, it went away and has never returned again. the next night exactly the same time, I felt a niggle in the same spot like it was trying to happen but I did the same thing, and it subsided right away, and that's it so far. So I think it works.

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    07-31-2011, 11:27 AM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2011, 12:08 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    I'm not really sure what triggered it. We had a bunch of errands to run, and I had been typing away on the forum. I was a little miffed when I wrote that post, and my girlfriend was a little miffed that we hadn't left yet. But nothing too major. Hadn't had a huge blowout with anybody, or anything like that.

    We got in the car, went to the post office. I mailed my license renewal fee and I thought I saw it was partially open as it slid down into the box. We got back into the car and I was concerned about it coming open in the mail. I remember saying something to the effect of, "I will assign it one angel to make sure it gets where it is supposed to be, and one devil to f*** with anybody that tries to mess with it!" On the one hand, I was just trying to make a cosmic joke, but on the other hand I kind of surprised myself when that comment came out of my mouth.

    I started getting the feeling at the bank. We had to make deposits in different accounts, and I was having trouble filling out the form correctly. My girlfriend went up to the teller with the first deposit, and the teller "couldn't find" the account in the system. She had to use the debit card to look up the account, and then it "appeared". THEN the teller asked my girlfriend if she had just come in earlier that day. She said no and the teller concluded it must have been somebody else that looked just like her.

    So that was definitely a huge "glitch in the matrix" moment.

    I've considered looking at the experience as a "cleansing" rather than an "attack". Maybe both? A test of some sort?

    If there was a 5D greeting it could have been me from a future negative timeline attempting to hack back in to this one. Knowing myself, I might try something like that. Especially on my birthday as I tend to do "strange" things like travel back in my mind to the moment of my birth and interact with my newborn self. I've had a sneaking suspicion for a while that I have previously graduated on the negative path, made a switch in early 6D, and then came back to recapitulate some lessons in compassion. But, you know, all part of the "Grand Master Plan". On the other hand, maybe I just made all that up in my head and it is a bunch of baloney. Delusions of grandeur or something.

    I can also see how it could have been a reconnection with a positive future me, and the symptoms were just from the clearing out of that thing the shaman put inside me. It never felt quite right to me, and I remember the shaman telling me AFTER I got it that I would have to listen to it when it told me what to do. Mmmmm nope, sorry spirit "friend" but YOU have to listen to ME! Wink

    It's hard to say without being able to perceive these things directly. Which is why I usually tend to stay away from angels, spirit guides, and the like. Can't tell who is who. Years ago I was hanging with a new age crowd, including a channeler friend. Everybody was talking to their "guides" and such... yet something just seemed really off to me. Despite listening to their guides and talking to their angels, nobody seemed to be able to get their act together... especially where money and their "significant other" was concerned.

    I, myself, got hoodwinked into a relationship with a nutjob woman and my "guides" kept telling me to just love her and forgive her when she treated me like dirt. Not too long after I kicked her to the curb, my channeler friend was told by her "angels" that we were meant to be together, and that our child would be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. Dodgy

    Finally I broke away from that whole scene, fired my "guides", and life has been on the ups ever since. Well, for the most part, anyway. It kind of gets back to the whole power thing. I mentioned that Q'uo seems to be tossing that word into the mix more often. I mean... let's say that the angels do exist... well if so then I can see how their job would be to protect an infant soul. But one day that soul has to grow up and stand on its own two feet. I am more powerful than them as I am the one with the physical body. So, after a point, calling on angels for protection becomes a hindrance rather than helpful. It all depends on where one is in the process.

    I notice angels seem to get a little jealous of physicality sometimes, and that some of them get more than a little "mother hen-ish", you know like a mother that is too identified with her children and refuses to let them go?

    Anyway just a bunch of thoughts... I think I will have to file this away in the "Things You Can't Discern For Sure From Behind The Veil" folder.

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    07-31-2011, 12:02 PM
    (07-31-2011, 11:27 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Everybody was talking to their "guides" and such... yet something just seemed really off to me. Despite listening to their guides and talking to their angels, nobody seemed to be able to get their act together... especially where money and their "significant other" was concerned.
    I have found that to be very often true in "new age" groups/people I have interacted with. My theory is that some these people are exactly like any religious follower who adopts a set of ideas on "faith," and follows it without discernment. I think there are guides (I don't care for the name "angels" because the word is too steeped in religious meaning), but the person accessing the guide will have to bring it through their own paradigm. Or, they could just be listening to their own thoughts: their own wants, wishes, ego etc.


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    07-31-2011, 12:12 PM
    (07-31-2011, 12:02 PM)Diana Wrote: I think there are guides (I don't care for the name "angels" because the word is too steeped in religious meaning), but the person accessing the guide will have to bring it through their own paradigm. Or, they could just be listening to their own thoughts: their own wants, wishes, ego etc.

    Right... see that is the thing for me after a certain point it was like... well... what are these "guides" or "angels" going to tell me that I don't already know, anyway? I know who I am and I am perfectly capable of choosing for myself. So even in a "best case" scenario they are kind of like friends who genuinely want to be helpful, but should really quit nosing around and butting into other people's business.


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    #66
    07-31-2011, 02:06 PM
    (07-31-2011, 12:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    (07-31-2011, 12:02 PM)Diana Wrote: I think there are guides (I don't care for the name "angels" because the word is too steeped in religious meaning), but the person accessing the guide will have to bring it through their own paradigm. Or, they could just be listening to their own thoughts: their own wants, wishes, ego etc.

    Right... see that is the thing for me after a certain point it was like... well... what are these "guides" or "angels" going to tell me that I don't already know, anyway? I know who I am and I am perfectly capable of choosing for myself. So even in a "best case" scenario they are kind of like friends who genuinely want to be helpful, but should really quit nosing around and butting into other people's business.
    There is a certain amount of learning that can take place only with the aid of intelligible contact with higher self and with the so-called 'guides'. Or to put it another way, it is extremely difficult to learn certain aspects of oneself under all conditions. The guide can read the unconscious questions, that are persistently asked, and suggest clues.


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    3DMonkey

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    07-31-2011, 02:29 PM
    (07-31-2011, 02:06 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-31-2011, 12:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    (07-31-2011, 12:02 PM)Diana Wrote: I think there are guides (I don't care for the name "angels" because the word is too steeped in religious meaning), but the person accessing the guide will have to bring it through their own paradigm. Or, they could just be listening to their own thoughts: their own wants, wishes, ego etc.

    Right... see that is the thing for me after a certain point it was like... well... what are these "guides" or "angels" going to tell me that I don't already know, anyway? I know who I am and I am perfectly capable of choosing for myself. So even in a "best case" scenario they are kind of like friends who genuinely want to be helpful, but should really quit nosing around and butting into other people's business.
    There is a certain amount of learning that can take place only with the aid of intelligible contact with higher self and with the so-called 'guides'. Or to put it another way, it is extremely difficult to learn certain aspects of oneself under all conditions. The guide can read the unconscious questions, that are persistently asked, and suggest clues.

    In other words, you might want to listen to what they have to say. But you might want to tell them to butt out if you are screwed up and they tell you to do things contrary to your own desires.

    Mine tell ME to leave them alone. What's that say about me?


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    #68
    07-31-2011, 04:12 PM
    that's pretty bad when your own guides hate you monkey.. haha
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    07-31-2011, 04:53 PM
    (07-31-2011, 02:29 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: In other words, you might want to listen to what they have to say. But you might want to tell them to butt out if you are screwed up and they tell you to do things contrary to your own desires.

    Mine tell ME to leave them alone. What's that say about me?
    I think you'd have a problem with you indeed had a guide that had any contact whatsoever (including contact itself) that was contrary to your desires. I'm not sure that such a relationship is even possible, even though there are random mistakes and we still have a need to interpret 'guidance'. If your guides tell them to leave them alone, then perhaps you are to follow your own guidance? That's always available too. Guidance for me is not like 'sage advice'. It's just a 'clue' which offers a connection to something not yet accepted or connected. As a form of catalyst, it seems that we 'waste' much of our dreaming anyway.. I tend to get certain clues to ponder right before waking up.

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    07-31-2011, 05:35 PM
    (07-31-2011, 04:53 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-31-2011, 02:29 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: In other words, you might want to listen to what they have to say. But you might want to tell them to butt out if you are screwed up and they tell you to do things contrary to your own desires.

    Mine tell ME to leave them alone. What's that say about me?
    I think you'd have a problem with you indeed had a guide that had any contact whatsoever (including contact itself) that was contrary to your desires. I'm not sure that such a relationship is even possible, even though there are random mistakes and we still have a need to interpret 'guidance'. If your guides tell them to leave them alone, then perhaps you are to follow your own guidance? That's always available too. Guidance for me is not like 'sage advice'. It's just a 'clue' which offers a connection to something not yet accepted or connected. As a form of catalyst, it seems that we 'waste' much of our dreaming anyway.. I tend to get certain clues to ponder right before waking up.

    I meant more like 'I don't want to be a criminal but my guides give every indication to go through with it.'

    Now that I am writing it out, I can see that it is still beneficial to the entity to see it through as it would be the apparent path chosen. I guess I got a little scared that we would be encouraging a murderer, but if that is in fact his calling..... to each his own and climb every mountain. ( In no way do I mean to undermine or attempt sarcasm. I am serious)

    As for dreaming, I get the clues from daydreams as much as asleep dreams. Asleep dreams don't seem to be insightful. IMO, they only reflect the same thoughts I was having yesterday. Besides, I was paying attention yesterday when I was having them. The asleep dream usually tells me that I swallowed yesterday's bit of thought patterns more than fleetingly.

    As for a method for developing, I just wait for the next wave. Stuff is always changing and shifting including my own 'Mind' patterns. Even with the more I am learning (and I do appreciate all the teachers here), I still come back to the same conclusion. That is, to simply Be, and in my Being-ness, I am. And when I look out on the world, that is all that is truly happening for anyone.... 'they just being, yo' (i don't speak this way, I chose that because, even though sounding like a simpleton, it is still profoundly accurate)




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    07-31-2011, 05:55 PM
    But what is being? And what is really being exploited by the negative entity? If being is merely moving into a comfortable centeredness, with potential catalyst on hold, then obviously there is suppression. So there seems to be a path to being and this path includes acknowledgement of everything. But if being does not mean acceptance, then sure, it is truly happening for anyone. We are allowed to exist and that is 'being' as well.



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    07-31-2011, 06:01 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2011, 06:02 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    UPDATE: Some very mild recurrences today. Seem to be ameliorated by envisioning bright green energy flowing out from my heart chakra, filling my body, and passing out into my aura patching up any holes. Also took a bike ride and that helped somewhat.
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    07-31-2011, 06:08 PM
    If being is merely moving into a comfortable centeredness


    and uncomfortable off-centeredness


    with potential catalyst on hold, then obviously there is suppression.



    so what? still being


    So there seems to be a path to being and this path includes acknowledgement of everything



    no acknowledgement necessary. there is no single path, but there seems to be funneled energy like all the paths are shoulder to shoulder shaping each adjacent funnel.


    But if being does not mean acceptance, then sure, it is truly happening for anyone. We are allowed to exist and that is 'being' as well.



    The more I come to find/learn/experience, the more this seems to be the source of all that I find/learn/experience


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    07-31-2011, 06:18 PM
    (07-31-2011, 06:08 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: The more I come to find/learn/experience, the more this seems to be the source of all that I find/learn/experience
    And that is the 'path' to which I refer.


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    07-31-2011, 06:24 PM
    (07-31-2011, 06:18 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-31-2011, 06:08 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: The more I come to find/learn/experience, the more this seems to be the source of all that I find/learn/experience
    And that is the 'path' to which I refer.

    I am thankful for your patience, zenmaster. I always know you are saying something. I get clarification from you when I ask for it. Smile

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    07-31-2011, 08:27 PM
    In other birthday news, perhaps it was just a run-of-the-mill panic attack. :-/

    Out-Of-The-Blue Panic Attacks Aren't Without Warning: Body Sends Signals for Hour Before

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    09-10-2011, 09:00 PM
    (07-30-2011, 03:54 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The "attack" started at my crown chakra, and progressed its way down over the next several hours. Each point along the way had its own set of symptoms. It started with a tingling sensation on the top of my head, spreading to my temples and forehead, then a dull throb along my occipital ridge, passing to difficulty breathing and speaking, numbness and tingling in my extremities then increased heart rate and palpitations, finally culminating in nausea, vomiting, and some loose bowel movements.

    Interesting. Just found this:

    72.16 Wrote:Questioner: Why is there no protection at the floor or bottom of the banishing ritual, and should there be?

    Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.

    The development of the psychic greeting is possible only through the energy centers starting from a station which you might call within the violet-ray moving through the adept’s energy center and therefrom towards the target of opportunity. Depending upon the vibratory nature and purpose of greeting, be it positive or negative, the entity will be energized or blocked in the desired way.

    We of Ra approach this instrument in narrow band contact through violet-ray. Others might pierce down through this ray to any energy center. We, for instance, make great use of this instrument’s blue-ray energy center as we are attempting to communicate our distortion/understandings of the Law of One.

    The entity of Orion pierces the same violet-ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.

    The energies of life itself, being the One Infinite Creator, flow from the south pole of the body seen in its magnetic form. Thus only the Creator may, through the feet, enter the energy shell of the body to any effect. The effects of the adept are those from the upper direction and thus the building of the wall of light is quite propitious.

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    09-10-2011, 09:14 PM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2011, 09:15 PM by zenmaster.)
    (09-10-2011, 09:00 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.

    Basically, these entities can almost instantly, can read you like a book and know you better than you know yourself - that is, as far as your thoughts, memories, your energetic signature, etc. But in their working, they are also bringing these unaccepted aspects of yourself to your attention.

    (09-10-2011, 09:00 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings.
    Nasty huh? Essentially, attempt to re-wire mind-body communication to end your life.

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    09-10-2011, 09:20 PM
    So Zen, if we were instantly rewired for 4D (which Ra says is incompatible with 3D), would that be a painful death?

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    09-10-2011, 10:18 PM
    (09-10-2011, 09:14 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Basically, these entities can almost instantly, can read you like a book and know you better than you know yourself - that is, as far as your thoughts, memories, your energetic signature, etc. But in their working, they are also bringing these unaccepted aspects of yourself to your attention.

    no they dont - else noone could get away with living their lives without being totally controlled.

    case of a negative entity is the case of suppressed and controlled emotions. negative path is a path of negative concepts and their suppression and control. an entity who has spent millions of years in that path, have gone through a lot of cases in which it had to suppress and resurface different kinds of emotions. this enables it to be able to identify the susceptibility to all these emotions it suppressed and controlled. negative path is also a path of rejection - you reject/suppress emotions and concepts.

    imagine a situation in which there is an entity which holds endless negative thoughts and feelings at arm's length without accepting them inside itself. they are all waiting at the door.

    and imagine an entity which is susceptible to any kind of thought that is in that spectrum, but is positive or neutral (hence greater acceptance of things compared to the entity which rejects) or negative but is not in the level that said entity is. (again, compared to more negative entity, greater acceptance and less control of thoughts and emotions).

    in this situation you already have a situation of two potentials. one with the highly entity with a lot of negative thoughts and emotions waiting acceptance, and in the other side an entity which has low potential in regard to these kinds of thoughts/emotions. at this stage, creating thoughts or popping thought forms and sending them to the low potential entity is already sufficiently easy.

    this is the same with the amplification of bodily situations. since all thoughts/emotions/mindset of the entity's mind/spirit reflects on the body, it is easy to amplify a certain mindset/emotion in the entity's mind/spirit, causing a greater distortion in an already present area.

    so this is a case of susceptibility. the more the potential, the more the chances of success.

    in another respect, this can be seen actually as a service indeed - for, susceptibility to a certain emotion/thought basically means necessity of such an experience. and, the negative entity readily brings, and delivers this emotion/experience as a thought or thought form, basically creating the experience without anything outside happening (you may not have any possibility of getting fired from your job, but if you are susceptible fear of sustenance can still be made grasp your mindset through thoughts or thought forms), therefore delivering the experience to the entity.

    but of course, first of all the aim of the act is not serving that experience, second, it is not in the proper magnitude the entity would want and could use.

    but then again susceptibility is susceptibility. if the entity has that susceptibility deep in its mind/spirit, then the entity will eventually go through such experiences at any given point in time in its grand development. and when the experience is had and properly distilled and its spiritual result filtered into mind/spirit complex, the susceptibility will go away.

    ..............

    in contrast, because it is on a path that rejects positive emotions, the negative entity is not familiar with positive emotions in the level the positive entity is. moreover, positive emotions are disturbing and repulsive to them. therefore, 'instant knowledge' of another entity's entire nature is a feat impossible for a negative entity, since they lack a lot of expertise the spectrum of positive emotions. however, they have to have good expertise in preventing or removing positive emotions due to path they are walking on.




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