Thousands of blackbirds fall dead from sky

[Crimson]

In that same website (huffington) I read that the cows in Wisconsin died of a respiratory virus, then now they say that the ones in Vietnam died of cold weather...

[fairyfarmgirl]

http://www.naturalnews.com/031076_USDA_bird_deaths.html

[AnthroHeart]

http://www.naturalnews.com/031076_USDA_bird_deaths.html

Are we sure this isn't disinformation? That would have the EPA all riled up.

[Peregrinus]

Natural news... it is a bait and switch site. It gains trust having a large percentage of its stories being true, providing the odd story which is blatant disinfo.

[Nabil Naser]

This report, that came out today, does not solve the mystery.

The only possibility for thousand of birds to lose their coordination and slam into objects is a magnetic field anomaly, IMHO.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/27/arkansa...tml?hpt=T2

[Eddie]

And then, there is this:

Mohawk Prophecy--When the Birds Fall From the Sky

[zenmaster]

This report, that came out today, does not solve the mystery.

The only possibility for thousand of birds to lose their coordination and slam into objects is a magnetic field anomaly, IMHO.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/27/arkansa...tml?hpt=T2

A force field causes the trauma? I doubt it.

Birds do not have to 'lose their coordination' to die of unnatural causes.

[unity100]

Birds do not have to 'lose their coordination' to die of unnatural causes.

why werent they falling from the sky in such an all-encompassing blanket fashion everywhere aronud the world last year, or the year before, or in the last decade, or ANYtime in the last century ?

[zenmaster]

why werent they falling from the sky in such an all-encompassing blanket fashion everywhere aronud the world last year, or the year before, or in the last decade, or ANYtime in the last century ?

That is one outstanding question. But the primary consideration, presumably, is to determine what contributed to the animal deaths. Confusingly, we already know that most cases, although coincident in a relatively short period of time, have unequivocally different causes. For example, weather, diet and trauma have been indicated as distinct causes.

Obviously, when researchers report the cause of death as "blunt-force trauma", for example, they do not mean that was ground-strike trauma.

The popularization, media facility, and sensation seeking also results a snow-ball magnification effect in mass consciousness. People tend to seek out more and more "anomalous" incidents which would have been otherwise labeled as "normal". Confirmation bias always overrules objective investigation. This thread even has a place in "The Harvest" section, which presumably offers at least some pretext.

[Monica]

Confusingly, we already know that most cases, although coincident in a relatively short period of time, have unequivocally different causes. For example, weather, diet and trauma have been indicated as distinct causes.

Actually, those are all just theories. None have been proven, last I heard. Correlation doesn't = causation.

Obviously, when researchers report the cause of death as "blunt-force trauma", for example, they do not mean that was ground-strike trauma.

The news reports I read stated that researchers didn't yet know whether the blunt-force trauma caused their deaths, or whether they died first, then hit the ground, thus sustaining internal bleeding after they were already dead.

The popularization, media facility, and sensation seeking also results a snow-ball magnification effect in mass consciousness. People tend to seek out more and more "anomalous" incidents which would have been otherwise labeled as "normal". Confirmation bias always overrules objective investigation. This thread even has a place in "The Harvest" section, which presumably offers at least some pretext.

There is truth in this; however I don't think that explains the frequency and magnitude of these anomalous events. If it did, then some cursory research would yield other times in history in which such widespread events occurred.

Zenmaster, I'm curious: Do you not consider these animal deaths exceedingly strange? You seem intent upon finding mundane explanations. I agree that, oftentimes, the mundane is the answer. But I don't see how that could be true in this case. There are simply too many cases, many of which are species-specific.

I've seen cricket plagues in which the streets were covered in crickets. I've seen swarms of gnats near lakes. We've all seen stuff like that. But how many of us have ever heard of mass numbers of birds dropping out of the sky? Add to that, all the other animals...all within a few weeks?

It gets exponentially weirder, by the time you look at all the cases. A single case could be explained by mundane causes, but not this many, in such a short timespan.

[zenmaster]

Confusingly, we already know that most cases, although coincident in a relatively short period of time, have unequivocally different causes. For example, weather, diet and trauma have been indicated as distinct causes.

Actually, those are all just theories. None have been proven, last I heard. Correlation doesn't = causation.

It is not possible to prove a theory. We are merely satisfied or unsatisfied with our favorite explanation.
It is true, correlation never equals causation. Also, uncorrelated events never equal causation, so where are we left?

Obviously, when researchers report the cause of death as "blunt-force trauma", for example, they do not mean that was ground-strike trauma.

The news reports I read stated that researchers didn't yet know whether the blunt-force trauma caused their deaths, or whether they died first, then hit the ground, thus sustaining internal bleeding after they were already dead.

I haven't read those reports. I guess there will always be
reports that people will use to support their favorite theory.

The popularization, media facility, and sensation seeking also results a snow-ball magnification effect in mass consciousness. People tend to seek out more and more "anomalous" incidents which would have been otherwise labeled as "normal". Confirmation bias always overrules objective investigation. This thread even has a place in "The Harvest" section, which presumably offers at least some pretext.

There is truth in this; however I don't think that explains the frequency and magnitude of these anomalous events. If it did, then some cursory research would yield other times in history in which such widespread events occurred.

It's not intended to explain the frequency and magnitude of the events. Perhaps there is some important historical research to be done then?

Zenmaster, I'm curious: Do you not consider these animal deaths exceedingly strange?

Strange for me due to the expectation of correlation, yet none forthcoming.

You seem intent upon finding mundane explanations. I agree that, oftentimes, the mundane is the answer. But I don't see how that could be true in this case.

At this point, those explanations offered have been rather mundane.

There are simply too many cases, many of which are species-specific.

Then again, one mass bird death involved diet, while another blunt force trauma.

I've seen cricket plagues in which the streets were covered in crickets. I've seen swarms of gnats near lakes. We've all seen stuff like that. But how many of us have ever heard of mass numbers of birds dropping out of the sky? Add to that, all the other animals...all within a few weeks?

Cricket and gnats swarming, while also dealing with some type of animal behavior, are not really anomalous. There may very well be a portion, or "core" of the incidents that have the same cause - maybe even a fantastically novel cause. However, can you see that such a cause will be even more difficult to ultimately find due to the forced mix-in of inevitable mundane and normal incidents, and the premature promotion of far-out pet theories that serve to reinforce bias?

It gets exponentially weirder, by the time you look at all the cases. A single case could be explained by mundane causes, but not this many, in such a short timespan.

Thus they may be said to be correlated in time, but correlation does not equal causation.

[unity100]

That is one outstanding question. But the primary consideration, presumably, is to determine what contributed to the animal deaths. Confusingly, we already know that most cases, although coincident in a relatively short period of time, have unequivocally different causes. For example, weather, diet and trauma have been indicated as distinct causes.

such an immense string of coincidences happening so coincidentally, would statistically be a lower chance than there only being life on this planet in this galaxy.

that is not one outstanding question - that is the question that needs to be determined before attempting to explain it through anything 'natural'.

if it was anything natural, it should be an occasional occurrence at least, or, smaller cases of this should have occurred, at least regionally, depending on identifiable environmental, climate or atmospheric factors.

but,

a LOT of incidents, happening due to numerous different factors (all of which being supposedly natural - lets say all were natural), at the same small time span, is something close to impossible.

simply - a bunch of birds die due to hypothermia somewhere, just in the same week a bunch of birds die due to a magnetic fluctuation (or whatever), another bunch of birds die due to sound explosion somewhere else, another bunch of crabs die due to some other oceanic condition somewhere, this, that.

now, if ALL was due to cold, or due to, magnetic fluctuation or something, it would be plausible. an encompassing set of conditions would be provided to us to explain it, and they would.

but, all are claimed due to be separate causes.

that is much more impossible than anything else. they just coincided in the past few weeks then is it ?

The popularization, media facility, and sensation seeking also results a snow-ball magnification effect in mass consciousness. People tend to seek out more and more "anomalous" incidents which would have been otherwise labeled as "normal". Confirmation bias always overrules objective investigation. This thread even has a place in "The Harvest" section, which presumably offers at least some pretext.

excuse me but if hundreds of birds started dropping here and there, at ANY given time period/decade it would be magnified.

popularization, media rating seeking is not things that are new to these times. there had been a lot of different stuff that was used to gather attention in this direction, and had there been any kind of such 'impossible coincidences' string, mass media would jump on it like there's no tomorrow.

[Monica]

uncorrelated events never equal causation, so where are we left?

We are left with anomalous events for which we have not yet found an explanation.

I haven't read those reports.

Ah. Have you been following these stories at all?

I guess there will always be
reports that people will use to support their favorite theory.

Why do you suppose a theory might become a favored theory?

It's not intended to explain the frequency and magnitude of the events. Perhaps there is some important historical research to be done then?

Absolutely.

However, the very fact that most of us have never heard of such events before, might be for the simple reason that such events have never happened before, at least not on such a widespread level. (That is every bit as feasible as what you have proposed...that such events have happened but just didn't get sensationalized as they have now.)

Strange for me due to the expectation of correlation, yet none forthcoming.

Correlation of the various animal deaths?

At this point, those explanations offered have been rather mundane.

...and totally unsatisfactory. Only a handful of theories have been offered. None have been proven. Most of the events don't even have any suggested causes at all. Taken in total, the situation is far from mundane.

Then again, one mass bird death involved diet, while another blunt force trauma.

Those are not proven causes, but just theories. Furthermore, even if they were proven, that does not explain all the others.

Cricket and gnats swarming, while also dealing with some type of animal behavior, are not really anomalous.

That is precisely my point! We've all heard of events like crickets swarming...why? Because they're normal. They don't happen often, but they happen enough for most of us to at least know about them. They're within the range of normalcy.

Not so with these recent animal deaths.

There may very well be a portion, or "core" of the incidents that have the same cause - maybe even a fantastically novel cause. However, can you see that such a cause will be even more difficult to ultimately find due to the forced mix-in of inevitable mundane and normal incidents, and the premature promotion of far-out pet theories that serve to reinforce bias?

Sure. That can't be helped.

Thus they may be said to be correlated in time, but correlation does not equal causation.

My point wasn't that they were correlated in cause, but that the correlation in time adds to the weirdness factor.

[zenmaster]

Is this is just an orchestrated lie, or still unconfirmed, or just a theory as well?
"Biologists say they died as a result of poison set out by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The birds were killed because they were eating cattle feed and leaving waste on the feed and on the equipment."

[Monica]

Is this is just an orchestrated lie, or still unconfirmed, or just a theory as well?
"Biologists say they died as a result of poison set out by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The birds were killed because they were eating cattle feed and leaving waste on the feed and on the equipment."

I have no idea. Would poison kill only 1 species? Why weren't other birds and wildlife affected? Poisons usually aren't that specific. And would poison kill all the birds at exactly the same time? And would they all die suddenly, with no one noticing any sick birds?

But even if true, that doesn't explain the other cases, so, taken together, it's still anomalous.

[BlatzAdict]

umm i totally think it was haarp.. and believe they wouldn't of used it so recklessly unless they were defending against something.. i think the STO ets are zapping the illuminati toys one by one, and i think their days are numbered.

and i think we're going to win by default just cause the global consensus is we want the best possible outcome...

your truth becomes your reality... law of attraction stuff i guess..

[fairyfarmgirl]

From my research thus far I have gleaned 3 causes for the fish, bird and human die offs.

1. Natural Crystalline EA(rth) based elecromagnetic crysalline pulse (stuns birds in flight and they fall and die upon impact)

2. Human poisioning due to excessive and irresponsible use of pesticides and the run off of these poisions into groundwater and into the rivers, streams, lakes and oceans.

3. HAARP


It is not just "One" cause for these happening. Nor have these occurences happened simultaneously as the media would have one believe. In this the mainstream and liberal media are both cultivating a FEAR response.

This gives me pause to wonder if both types of media are infact reaching for the same goal of depolariztion of the Light.

Further, my seeking has resulted in the understanding within my HEART that the time has come for Humanity to begin to reconnect and cultivate a return to innocence. I shall strive to remain harmless to myself and others.

fairyfarmgirl

[BlatzAdict]

Further, my seeking has resulted in the understanding within my HEART that the time has come for Humanity to begin to reconnect and cultivate a return to innocence. I shall strive to remain harmless to myself and others.

fairyfarmgirl

bam i'm posting this to my facebook... then again it's taken out of context.. aahh nevermind.. BUT THIS resonates with my very being.

[Nabil Naser]

I am not suggesting that the magnetic field cased the trauma. I am suggesting that the magnetic field affected the birds in such a way that they were flying without coordination. This caused them to slam into trees, buildings, and each other. They may have had enough life in them to fly for a while, but eventually they fell victim to the trauma that they have experienced.

While the trauma is the cause of death, the lack of coordination is the reason for the trauma. And the inability to fly as they normally do, was due to changes in the magnetic field. That's my humble opinion.

This report, that came out today, does not solve the mystery.

The only possibility for thousand of birds to lose their coordination and slam into objects is a magnetic field anomaly, IMHO.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/27/arkansa...tml?hpt=T2

A force field causes the trauma? I doubt it.

Birds do not have to 'lose their coordination' to die of unnatural causes.

[zenmaster]

I am not suggesting that the magnetic field cased the trauma. I am suggesting that the magnetic field affected the birds in such a way that they were flying without coordination. This caused them to slam into trees, buildings, and each other.

I would include that speculation as a possibility. It may even have zero probability. But, to actually conclude that cause, at this point, is ridiculous and irresponsible in my opinion.

[airwaves]

Redacted!

[zenmaster]

in my opinion.

YOUR opinion, indeed.

Just basing it on what was written. Could be a 'language thing', but I doubt it. At least I qualified it as an opinion, knowing we all have one and we all are correct and it does not matter (unless someone wants it to matter). He's written stuff like "Ra is actually a lot more intelligent than we think". Kind of begs the question who this "we" is? Sorry, words express meaning and have purpose - we're not two-year olds.

[Ens Entium]

in my opinion.

YOUR opinion, indeed.

Just basing it on what was written. Could be a 'language thing', but I doubt it. At least I qualified it as an opinion, knowing we all have one and we all are correct and it does not matter (unless someone wants it to matter). He's written stuff like "Ra is actually a lot more intelligent than we think". Kind of begs the question who this "we" is? Sorry, words express meaning and have purpose - we're not two-year olds.

I must admit that that was really funny, hahaha... I wonder how intelligent he thought Ra was? I dont ask in a mean spirited way, i'm genuinely curious...

[Monica]

My hubby and I were just talking about how we hadn't heard of any more animal deaths lately...had the phenomenon faded away? And then this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41972653/ns/...?GT1=43001

[unity100]

My hubby and I were just talking about how we hadn't heard of any more animal deaths lately...had the phenomenon faded away? And then this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41972653/ns/...?GT1=43001

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/

you can watch all those from this website.

[Meerie]

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/01...sas-again/

It is happening again

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It just says "Beebe a town in central Arkansas".
this military base Little Rock is also in central Arkansas... could the bird deaths be related to stuff going on there?
Last year there were also massive bird deaths reported at Beebe.

[Eddie]

Speaking of "thousands of birds falling from the sky"....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTmK9NlTN8Y

[zenmaster]

Anyone figure out why dead birds is in the "Harvest" forum?

[Oceania]

some moron put it there.

anyway it's related.

[Meerie]

http://www.earth-issues.com/2011/12/myst...f-animals/

according to this source they were poisoned.