People I believe to be Ra wanderers.

[Unbound]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand...-hand_path

The right as passive is only according to your personal system, I have never seen that in any other system, personally, and I feel this is something you intend.

"In Buddhist tantra, the right hand symbolises the male aspect of compassion or skilful means, and the left hand represents the female aspect of wisdom or emptiness. Ritual hand-held attributes, such as the vajra and bell, vajra and lotus, damaru and bell, damaru and khatvanga, arrow and bow, curved knife and skull-cup, sword and shield, hook and rope snare, etc., placed in the right and left hands respectively, symbolise the union of the active male aspect of skilful means with the contemplative female aspect of wisdom.

In representations of the Buddha image, the right hand often makes an active mudra of skilful means - the earth-touching, protection, fearlessness, wish-granting or teaching mudra; whilst the left hand often remains in the passive mudra of meditative equipoise, resting in the lap and symbolising meditation on emptiness or wisdom.

Tantra is a set of esoteric Indian traditions with roots in Hinduism and later Buddhism (an outgrowth Dharmic tradition). Tantra is often divided by its practitioners into two different paths:dakshinachara and vamachara, translated as Right-Hand Path and Left-Hand Path respectively. Dakshinachara consists of traditional Hindu practices such as asceticism and meditation, while vamachara also includes ritual practices that conflict with mainstream Hinduism, such as sexual rituals, consumption of alcohol and other intoxicants, animal sacrifice, and flesh-eating. The two paths are viewed by Tantrists as equally valid approaches to enlightenment. Vamachara, however, is considered to be the faster[13][14] and more dangerous of the two paths, and is not suitable for all practitioners. The usage of the terms Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path is still current in modern Indian and Buddhist Tantra.

The modern use of the term Left Hand Path and Right Hand Path is connected very much to Helena Blavatsky and Theosophy in terms of modern western occultism as it was in her writings where it was first translated from tantric concepts and made widespread. These concepts have become so convoluted I give little weight to their use.

I use both hands as I was born with both hands.

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Oh there is also a difference between "Right Hand/Left Hand" and "White Hand/Black Hand" which in Voodoo relates to there being a "Black Person" or "White Person" (not racial terms, obviously, likely pertaining to Right/Left Hands, but more directly related to control/evil and release/good) each which possesses both a White Hand and a Black Hand. Thus you could be a Black practitioner who uses the White Hand for your means, or a White practitioner who uses the Black Hand, which may appear to the outsider that the black is white and the white is black.

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This quote from Julius Evola pretty much sums it up.

"There is a significant difference between the two Tantric paths, that of the right hand and that of the left hand (which both are under Shiva's aegis). In the former, the adept always experiences 'someone above him', even at the highest level of realization. In the latter, 'he becomes the ultimate Sovereign' (chakravartin = worldruler)."

[Adonai One]

Another Ra wanderer. This entity has to go under rebalancing through many incarnations in order to correct the overbalance of will it has towards its objectives. In my belief, Ra wanderers are often members under significant healing and rebalancing.

[Namaste]

Ra Wanderer, Wanderer or not, this man is what I would consider the epitome of green ray, with the power of balanced action and communication (yellow and blue).

A diminutive man who changed the world through peace.

If you've not seen Gandhi, do take the time to watch it, his story is incredible.

[Adonai One]

Namaste, I can confirm, to my surprise, that Ghandi was of Ra as well.

[Plenum]

Another Ra wanderer. This entity has to go under rebalancing through many incarnations in order to correct the overbalance of will it has towards its objectives.

and what makes a 'Ra Wanderer' a Ra Wanderer specifically?

it is a given that they are of 6th Density origin.

but there are many 6th Density wanderers, not all of them from Ra.

"12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction."

In my belief, Ra wanderers are often members under significant healing and rebalancing.

Healing and Rebalancing is a given. It is part of the process of evolution, and applies to all entities. It is not exclusive to 'wanderers'.

[zenmaster]

So what exactly qualifies one to determine whether or not another individual has an "idea attachment"?

That's easy: Exaggeration, inflation, coyness, avoidance, defensiveness, righteousness, appeal to absolutes, unbalanced intuition, spiritual bypassing, being a meme mouthpiece, etc.

[Unbound]

So what exactly qualifies one to determine whether or not another individual has an "idea attachment"?

That's easy: Exaggeration, inflation, coyness, avoidance, defensiveness, righteousness, appeal to absolutes, unbalanced intuition, spiritual bypassing, being a meme mouthpiece, etc.

So, what would constitute a manner of self which does not have idea attachment?

[native]

Shucks..I was expecting a list of members on here.

[zenmaster]

So what exactly qualifies one to determine whether or not another individual has an "idea attachment"?

That's easy: Exaggeration, inflation, coyness, avoidance, defensiveness, righteousness, appeal to absolutes, unbalanced intuition, spiritual bypassing, being a meme mouthpiece, etc.

So, what would constitute a manner of self which does not have idea attachment?

When awareness of the energy put into the above forms of displacement or lack of grounding is available, the attachment is owned and the energy, ideas are transformed due to more available information about self. It is not possible to have sufficient awareness of self which include the above avoidance mechanisms, as they may be in operation, and at the same time unconsciously express their controlling influence.

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Shucks..I was expecting a list of members on here.

1) Icaro

[native]

Hooray!

[reeay]

Shucks..I was expecting a list of members on here.

1) Icaro

Yes, I can confirm this

[native]

I am Ra. Behold! You are Ra.

I had the thought come into my mind the other day that the statement "I am Ra" before each answer was as much for Carla/the group as it was just a general statement for Ra..a statement signifying the blending and merging between the two..as if Carla was making the statement that yes, I am Ra. I believe Ra mentions this type of merging of the two somewhere, aside from the blending of distortion statements.

[Rhayader]

We could have a spartacus moment here... 'I am Ra', no, 'I am Ra'...

[Unbound]

So what exactly qualifies one to determine whether or not another individual has an "idea attachment"?

That's easy: Exaggeration, inflation, coyness, avoidance, defensiveness, righteousness, appeal to absolutes, unbalanced intuition, spiritual bypassing, being a meme mouthpiece, etc.

So, what would constitute a manner of self which does not have idea attachment?

When awareness of the energy put into the above forms of displacement or lack of grounding is available, the attachment is owned and the energy, ideas are transformed due to more available information about self. It is not possible to have sufficient awareness of self which include the above avoidance mechanisms, as they may be in operation, and at the same time unconsciously express their controlling influence.

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Shucks..I was expecting a list of members on here.

1) Icaro

Can you explain more specifically what you mean by "owned"? I believe I understand your use of the words but would like some clarification.

[zenmaster]

Can you explain more specifically what you mean by "owned"? I believe I understand your use of the words but would like some clarification.

When we are operating unconsciously, we have not integrated something of self to our being. Being guided by something outside of conscious awareness in some matter, we can not be owning our participation in it - it is not ours to use in a responsible manner.

[Unbound]

Can you explain more specifically what you mean by "owned"? I believe I understand your use of the words but would like some clarification.

When we are operating unconsciously, we have not integrated something of self to our being. Being guided by something outside of conscious awareness in some matter, we can not be owning our participation in it - it is not ours to use in a responsible manner.

So how is one to know when an aspect has been integrated or not?

[zenmaster]

So how is one to know when an aspect has been integrated or not?

When that aspect is called on to participate, the balance afforded does not result in expressions of unconscious reactions: emotional charge, or avoidance due to the misplaced, overextended, tenuous, and/or compensatory use of intuition in the form of seemingly appropriate ideological apprehensions or transcendent notions for example.

[Unbound]

So how is one to know when an aspect has been integrated or not?

When that aspect is called on to participate, the balance afforded does not result in expressions of unconscious reactions: emotional charge, or avoidance due to the misplaced, overextended, tenuous, and/or compensatory use of intuition in the form of seemingly appropriate ideological apprehensions or transcendent notions for example.

I believe I understand the idea there, but could you give a contextual example? I understand the notions of misplaced, overextended, etc, but what is that a comparison of? Is it a comparison between individuals, like, what is expected of a balanced individual vs expectation of an unbalanced individual?

[zenmaster]

So how is one to know when an aspect has been integrated or not?

When that aspect is called on to participate, the balance afforded does not result in expressions of unconscious reactions: emotional charge, or avoidance due to the misplaced, overextended, tenuous, and/or compensatory use of intuition in the form of seemingly appropriate ideological apprehensions or transcendent notions for example.

I believe I understand the idea there, but could you give a contextual example? I understand the notions of misplaced, overextended, etc, but what is that a comparison of? Is it a comparison between individuals, like, what is expected of a balanced individual vs expectation of an unbalanced individual?

Each balance does result in a more overall balance. But usually circumstance calls upon some aspect of self which necessarily exists in relative imbalance and distortion. So the depiction of balanced individual vs unbalanced individual sort of ignores the specific reaction to catalyst which tends to involve an aspect of that individual. The comparison is made from the choices of expression available, which are severely limited and follow predictable patterns in the case of the unconscious participation.
Until we own our thought, we must adopt patterns of thought which are made available to our unconscious from the group unconscious, like training wheels. Those patterns of thought are on balance entirely recognizable and predictable, as we see in developmental or integral psychology.

[Unbound]

Do you think that the owning of one's thoughts naturally leads to more positive viewpoints?

[Adonai One]

John Lennon contained 4 individual aspects of Ra. Paul McCartney contains 4 different individual aspects of Ra as well. The Beatles was the manifestation of an attempt to communicate The Law of One through music. While not directly in-line with the intention, I believe they are very satisfied with the result. All of these aspects were veiled wanderers, of course.

One similar attempt was Edgar Allan Poe which contained 2 aspects... This took an interesting turn due to hardships.

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Plenum, you are perceptive.

[Rhayader]

What other musicians would you say are of Ra?

[Adonai One]

Leonard Cohen (never heard of before meditating this one out, heh.) and Bob Dylan. Both singular individual aspects.

[Rhayader]

You say you've never heard of Leonard Cohen before and from that it gives me a lot more faith in the things you say/channel. Both of those people have beautiful minds.

[Adonai One]

I am just going to hide this in this thread:

I never wanted to mention this because it's a big claim to make. Don't even take what I am about to say for cash. Don't take what I say in the future on authority.

When I came to realize that the biggest-part of my soul (within the theory of parallel incarnations and selves) was running around within Ra actively, I became informed, in my belief, that it was my soul that was put into Carla's body to communicate The Law of One through major portions of vocabulary and concepts that were my own. I, as an individual aspect of Ra in my fully-informed capacity, potentially acted as the representative that carried the entire thoughts and words of the whole complex through Carla.

I was chosen for this due to being the most incarnate wanderer on this planet and my familarity with the English language, although it was still expanded greatly by the group as a whole. As a singular fully-informed soul, I can still sound very... alien.

Anyways, just something I am being encouraged to say for whatever reason. Again, don't take it as absolute truth. If you don't resonate with this, I encourage you to leave this behind.

I am no authority. I am no leader. I am not other than yourselves and neither is Ra. I am but a humble, veiled human being.

I consider sharing this presumpteous but apparently it has unseen benefits towards showing who I am.

[xise]

A1, I'm glad you feel comfortable sharing such information with us.

[zenmaster]

Do you think that the owning of one's thoughts naturally leads to more positive viewpoints?

I think eventually that may be the case because ultimately that's what we are. But the positive viewpoint involves a decision to share experience without an expectation or particular agenda involving control.

[Adonai One]

Søren Kierkegaard, to my surprise once more, is apparently of Ra as well. I got many more yesterday but I have pretty much forgotten them all. Let's just say Copernicus and Leonardo Da Vinci are some of the many. Newton was a rare 4th-density wanderer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard

[AnthroHeart]

What makes Newton a 4D wanderer, since most are of 6D? If so, he had to have come back from 4D earth for a reason. But then I thought 4D earth wasn't formed until 2012.

I think Walt Disney may have been a wanderer. His imagination was really something. At least now he's back home. I wish I were.

[Adonai One]

Walt Disney was native human as far as I can discern.

I think Newton came with a clear mission. Jesus was a late-4D wanderer yet our vibration was not "4th-dimensional."