Why should 6th density beings downgrading themselves to 3th density?

[AnthroHeart]

GW, I don't know if it'll help you to emphasize this, but here's an attempt.

The part of you that left 6D, the part that will return when your expiration date comes due, is not the guy you see in the mirror, per se. Consider that you might be taking this personally in a mis-guided sort of way. What I think you are identifying as yourself will never see 6D. It cannot. It isn't formatted for that.

The nervous system you now experience the world through is like a pair of reading glasses you buy at the pharmacy. They may suffer damage and such, but they will never become your eyeballs. Likewise the physical eyes you depend upon now, the mental apparatus, etc., these will never ever make it to 6D. Am I wrong, or won't your poor old suffering 3D self simply be discarded when your number is called?

In your quiet moments, maybe you could try to turn the lenses around, as it were, to feel the ones who are seeing through you?

One thing I do when schmoozing with unseen entities is challenge them to accept the Law of One as the highest spiritual truth (really my concept of such, but no matter), just as Carla challenges entities in the name of Jesus. Do it thrice. Doing so may help your nervous system relax a bit when things creep in and feel threatening.

Thanks for not bashing my little pity party I had. I agree that I won't be seeing 6D with the same eyes that I do now. I am honestly not suffering really. Just homesick. Testing the spirits 3 times sounds like a plan. I usually don't converse with entities. The time I did when I wasn't on my meds it didn't end well. But I didn't test them, saying they were God and all. It nearly ruined my life. I agree with Law of One being highest spiritual truth, though it extends beyond what Ra delivered. There's lots to the Law of One I'm sure that wasn't covered because the questions weren't asked.

[Sacred Fool]

Thanks for not bashing my little pity party I had.

Now that you bring that up, I realize that I had neglected in the previous post to mention that I share your sentiments. The amount of things to try to balance here, in so many categories, is truly overwhelming. I've found, in whatever ways I can align myself that way, that focusing on a distortion towards service can sometimes take the edge off.

[AnthroHeart]

Now that you bring that up, I realize that I had neglected in the previous post to mention that I share your sentiments. The amount of things to try to balance here, in so many categories, is truly overwhelming. I've found, in whatever ways I can align myself that way, that focusing on a distortion towards service can sometimes take the edge off.

I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left.

[Sacred Fool]

I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left.

But the "you" which you identify with here on earth didn't come from 6D and will not return. It's a temporary construct, like a borrowed car. This "you" won't properly transport the "you" that inhabits 6D.

So, why get overly stressed out about the vehicle? Why not concentrate on the driver? The balances/imbalances of the driver should be of greater interest.

How does one determine these? You need a clear shot looking deep inside to get information like that. Ha ha, so, now we're back to the balance/imbalances of your current vehicle. Hey, that was quick spin around the block!

[AnthroHeart]

So if I were a wanderer from 6D, does this mean that 99.9% of me is still in 6D, and that my current vehicle is but a spark of my real 6D self? Or did I fully come here? I can feel powerless, so I don't feel like I have my full self here.

[darklight]

I never realized there were so many things to balance here. I thought it was mainly love and light for a wanderer. But now that you said it, I agree. Keeping my chakras in balance is a difficult chore sometimes. I sometimes wonder if when I'm back in 6D, if I'll be more unbalanced than when I left.

But the "you" which you identify with here on earth didn't come from 6D and will not return. It's a temporary construct, like a borrowed car. This "you" won't properly transport the "you" that inhabits 6D.

So, why get overly stressed out about the vehicle? Why not concentrate on the driver? The balances/imbalances of the driver should be of greater interest.

How does one determine these? You need a clear shot looking deep inside to get information like that. Ha ha, so, now we're back to the balance/imbalances of your current vehicle. Hey, that was quick spin around the block!

You know, several times I woked up in the middle of the night and realized that this body, this personality, is not really me. This strange happening was very short, maybe 10 seconds or so, then the 3D mind had take it over and everything went normal again.

(Sorry if my English is not properly, I'm Dutch and I speak and write mainly Dutch here in the Netherlands ).

[Sacred Fool]

You know, several times I woked up in the middle of the night and realized that this body, this personality, is not really me. This strange happening was very short, maybe 10 seconds or so, then the 3D mind had take it over and everything went normal again.

It's been a long time since, but I can remember experiences like that. For a moment or two the possibilities seemed wide open as if (metaphorically speaking) there were no walls around me. Then in an instant all the strictures of my biographical narrative closed in and gave context to my thoughts. Had that not have happened (I think I was in my early teens) I'm sure I would have panicked due to the extreme freedom....sad to say.....

Freedom was something I was very fond of then--as now. Funny that I....................

So if I were a wanderer from 6D, does this mean that 99.9% of me is still in 6D, and that my current vehicle is but a spark of my real 6D self? Or did I fully come here? I can feel powerless, so I don't feel like I have my full self here.

If you were all here, then you wouldn't need to ask the question, would you?

It's a trade off. We get to play and learn, there are few inconveniences along the way, then it's over. Then we do it again. Maybe you're a first time wanderer here, GW. That could perhaps explain some of your tenacity in this regard?

[darklight]

An incarnated wanderer is physically the same as a native being, except one thing in the spirit complex: Ra says that wanderers have an "armor of light". Not sure what that armor does, probably some protection (against attacks from the Orion Group maybe).

[Sacred Fool]

You got my curiosity going, so I looked it up.

16.59 Questioner: The many Wanderers coming to this planet now and in the recent past— are they subject to Orion thoughts?

Ra: I am Ra. As we have said before, Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of such influence to a Wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not as it would appropriately be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.

Furthermore, the Wanderer is, in its own mind/body/spirit complex, less distorted towards the, shall we say, deviousness of third-density positive/negative confusions. Thus, it often does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual the negative nature of thoughts or beings.

[Melissa]

I'd say it's an upgrade.

[darklight]

The most famous and influential people here on Earth are natives of the highest sub-octave and 4th density wanderers, that's what it seems. Higher density wanderers, especially 6th density wanderers, are those normal, passive ones just like the other 6 billion people. Am I right? What do you guys think?

[sunnysideup]

I don't know, darklight. Who do you consider to be the most famous and influential here on Earth and furthermore how can you tell who is a wanderer or native?

1Love

[Jeremy]

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

[darklight]

I don't know, darklight. Who do you consider to be the most famous and influential here on Earth and furthermore how can you tell who is a wanderer or native?

1Love

For example:

26.17 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me where the entity that used Lincoln— Abraham’s— body what density he came from and where?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity was fourth-vibration.

17.12 Questioner (on Jesus): Did you say the fifth vibration was that of love? Fifth density was that of love?

Ra: I am Ra. I have made an error. The fourth-density being is that which we intended to say, the highest level of fourth density going into the fifth. This entity could have gone on to the fifth but chose instead to return to third for this particular mission. This entity was of the highest sub-octave of the vibration of love. This is fourth density.

11.12 Questioner: Where are these three entities now? (Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, Rasputin)

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are in the dimension known to you as fourth. Therefore the space/time continua are not compatible. An approximation of the space/time locus of each would net no actual understanding. Each chose a fourth-density planet which was dedicated to the pursuit of the understanding of the Law of One through service to self, one in what you know as the Orion group, one in what you know as Cassiopeia, one in what you know as Southern Cross; however, these loci are not satisfactory. We do not have vocabulary for the geometric calculations necessary for transfer of this understanding to you.

Ra: I am Ra (Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler). We can speak only of two entities who may be harvestable in a negative sense, others still being in the physical incarnation: one known to you as Hermann; the other known, as it preferred to be called, Himmler.

[sunnysideup]

Yes I see where you getting at and these entities are indeed a good example of influential native or 4D wanderers. But assuming every famous and/or influential entity is either native or a 4D wanderer doesn't feel right imo. I think there are plenty of 5D or 6D influential wanderers too.

[darklight]

I think there are plenty of 5D or 6D influential wanderers too.

Yes, Carla, Don and Jim . But their influence is much lesser. The Law of One is not popular as Christianity, Islam or Judaism. The LOO is exclusively for the elite .

Some family members calls me a Satanist. But it doen't hurt me, because I had the same thoughts in the past. Experiencing---->learning------>changing, it feels good.

[Spaced]

The LOO is exclusively for the elite .

I very strongly disagree with this.

[Fang]

The LOO is exclusively for the elite

The law is for all

The Ra Material on the other hand...

[darklight]

Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist.

[Hotsizzle77]

I still don't understand that because on 6th density level, the beings are not naive, and yet the most wanderers are from the 6th density.

Ra stated clearly that a 6th density STS being would not take that risk. He also said that a 6th density STS being is extreme wise. So, are 6th density STO beings less wise? Or maybe a 6th density STS being would have serious trouble to adapt itself in a 3th density incarnation?

To answer the original question, it is extremely rare for a 6th density STS entity to volunteer to incarnate back into 3rd density. I believe they are wise in the sense of knowing that all they have subjectively/ individually progressed , and take great pride in their progression toward power. Therefore, they remain in 6th, as they progress, polarities "even out" resulting in the understanding that all is one.

A 6th density STO obviously progesses with the love for others viewing all as one as opposed to the subjective individual illusion that negative entities withhold. Are they wise? Wiser than we know my friend, it is impossible not to serve the creator, for all is one. So now let's all help EACHOTHER relearn what it is we have forgotten.

[Spaced]

Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist.

Do you consider yourself to be elite?

I would invite you to read a little bit about what Ra says on the topic of elitism. According to them the separation of a population into elite and non-elite is a distortion introduced by the Orion Confederation.

18.21 Questioner: Why did they want larger and stronger organisms?

Ra: The ones of Yahweh were attempting to create an understanding of the Law of One by creating mind/body complexes capable of grasping the Law of One. The experiment was a decided failure from the view of the desired distortions due to the fact that rather than assimilating the Law of One, it was a great temptation to consider the so-called social complex or subcomplex as elite or different and better than other-selves, this one of the techniques of service to self.

18.22 Questioner: Then the Orion group… I’m not quite sure that I understand this. Do you mean that the Orion group produced this larger body complex to create an elite so that the Law of One could be applied in what we call the negative sense?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The entities of Yahweh were responsible for this procedure in isolated cases as experiments in combating the Orion group.

However, the Orion group were able to use this distortion of mind/body complex to inculcate the thoughts of the elite rather than concentrations upon the learning/teaching of oneness.

There is great danger in considering yourself to be elite in comparison to others, because that mindset can be used to justify all sorts of self-serving assumptions or actions.

[darklight]

Maybe the "elite" is not the properly term because it sounds quite negative.

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder if there are more 6D souls than 3D souls. Not everyone is a wanderer, and not every 6D wandered.
I wonder how the choice was made to come here. Even 6D has seniority of vibration.
Strange, I don't feel that special to have had seniority of vibration and the chance to have incarnated at harvest time.

[Sacred Fool]

Strange, I don't feel that special to have had seniority of vibration and the chance to have incarnated at harvest time.

Evidently, your vibration is somewhat less distorted compared to some portion of others. Maybe feeling less distorted doesn't feel "special," just balanced?

[AnthroHeart]

It could be balanced. For the most part I feel pretty balanced. Just that I don't feel some of my chakras, like red or orange. Unless I'm aroused then I feel my orange.

I can't say for sure if I came here to balance myself more. If my vehicle here is but an illusion, it's hard to say why I'm here. Ra says the only activity worth doing is teach/learn and learn/teach. So I'm definitely learn/teaching. But I guess I could always use more balance. I probably didn't want to spend another couple million years balancing what could be done in 70 years here on Earth with such a dense veil. I feel pretty still inside.

Is inner stillness a sign of balance?

[Ankh]

>Billions of people are retarding the process of harvest.

Hahaha damn that's funny

And yet, here we are, because of that reason which you found so funny....

[darklight]

Well, i'm not saying it is exclusive for an elite in the first place. The "elite" is the "consequence" because the majority is religious, or atheist.

Do you consider yourself to be elite?

No, I'm not in a position of power, so I can't be an elite.

"All is One" seen from the perspective of the higher densities, but not all thinks and acts like one in this quite disharmonious density. Like Ra said, this will be a difficult harvest, with as end result that many will repeat the 3th density master cycle. So, in this many distortions, all is not one.

[AnthroHeart]

Therefore, they remain in 6th, as they progress, polarities "even out" resulting in the understanding that all is one.

So now let's all help EACHOTHER relearn what it is we have forgotten.

I read that it takes all an STS entities will and faith to be able to switch polarities. Not an easy thing to do.

Yes, I do my best to help others. But sometimes I do too much. Sometimes helping my mom has made me think of myself as a slave, which shuts down my yellow ray, so I don't like to think on those terms.

[cosmiclady]

I still don't understand that because on 6th density level, the beings are not naive, and yet the most wanderers are from the 6th density.

Ra stated clearly that a 6th density STS being would not take that risk. He also said that a 6th density STS being is extreme wise. So, are 6th density STO beings less wise? Or maybe a 6th density STS being would have serious trouble to adapt itself in a 3th density incarnation?

The sixth density being is extremely wise, whether it be negative or positive. But the positive sixth density being incarnates in third density out of love.

It fully understands the risks of getting caught up in the planetary vibration and potentially having to repeat the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity, but it risks it for service to others. If the polarity of the act is somewhat dependent on the risk versus the gain, then what possible greater service is there than that? The more they assist others through this intensely risky yet extremely beneficial service the more they ready themselves for their own seventh density harvest as it approaches in their native density.

I would like to say briefly that I agree that the sixth density incarnates in third density out of love. One may incarnate in a lower density in order to advance spiritually or to be challenged by catalysts, but doesn't that alone sound sort of STS??

[AnthroHeart]

I would like to say briefly that I agree that the sixth density incarnates in third density out of love. One may incarnate in a lower density in order to advance spiritually or to be challenged by catalysts, but doesn't that alone sound sort of STS??

It might be STS if it were at the expense of others.