Virtue of Sadness in the Mood Stabilizer Generation

[tamaryn]

How do you cherish the sadness in your life? How vivid is it? Are you with it time to time or does it follow you?

Now that I am on the smallest bit of mood stabilizer I can crumble, I can say I do miss the frequent trips of sadness; transmuting water to fire to air. Maybe my work was too intense all at once. Maybe I need to take less.

What do you think Rx drugs do to the chakras ?

[Kaaron]

What's it called?

[Kaaron]

I have been on Prozac (age 16 for a couple of months), cetalipram (24 about a year) venlafaxine (30 two years).
Nothing good can come of them. In fact, they've been proven to cause homicidal/suicidal tendencies and I'm talking 99th percentile here.
The STS drug Lord supplying your 'medication' has you using your free will to ingest anything that is 'good for your mental health'. Now that 'mental health' is defined by whoever calls the shots. Then you become a perfect testing ground for chemical warfare.
My best advice would be maybe see a healer or anyone that comes recommended by the people.
Meditation is the path bro.

[outerheaven]

I see suffering everywhere, and sorrow is my default state. I have a heavy heart for others. I am not depressed. I say all this with a sense of wonder and appreciation for that which we have come here to experience -- I don't say it with woe or self-pity.

I also have a wicked sense of humor: that's probably my outlet. I've had to learn not to use my humor to add to the suffering of others, as that was a problem in my younger/angrier years.

Wait, maybe I misunderstood, is this thread solely about mood stabilizers? I've never taken them and never will. Firstly I don't think they are nearly as exacting as the industry would have you believe and have a plethora of side effects, the vast amount still being unknown and/or unnoticed because they manifest on a level other than the physical and observable ...

[rva_jeremy]

How do you cherish the sadness in your life? How vivid is it? Are you with it time to time or does it follow you?

Outstanding question and topic.  This is a huge lesson I've been learning, really new territory for me.  Thanks for asking it.

I'm starting to understand that you can only displace emotions in time.  Running away does not get rid of them--if anything, it charges them with more energy.  So when we experience something that registers an unpleasant emotion, we need to treat that as a real part of the Creator and give it the respect it's due.  That doesn't mean it's easy, of course, nor does it mean that we need to experience everything immediately and never look away.  It's just a principle I expect is at work in how we process emotion.

One technique I find value in is to sit with the feeling in meditation or contemplation until such time as the feeling is not even connected to the thought or experience that provoked it, but becomes just the sole feeling.  I think this is similar to Ra's technique of finding the balance to an experience within.  It's really powerful to look at a feeling directly without looking away.  That has to be related to what Nietzsche found when he said: "…if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

I think this work is part of the "spiritual weight training" that third density is all about -- at least for me, getting in touch with feelings has been a scary experience, but it's yielded all good things.  I'm having clearer relations with the ones I love, though I believe truly that when Ra call themselves "the brothers and sisters of sorrow" they are speaking a truth that runs deep, one we spend a lot of time ignoring.  Those that accept this truth seem to experience a different quality of third density, something like the old Christian concept of "witnessing".

I don't have any opinion on pharmas like that. We just don't know enough about the emotional life of a human, I think, to know when those are and aren't appropriate from a spiritual evolutionary point of view. Would you leave a broken arm unsplinted because there's some lesson in having a disabled limb? Then again, some psychoactive drugs seem to do the equivalent of just numbing the whole broken arm, don't they?

[rva_jeremy]

I see suffering everywhere, and sorrow is my default state. I have a heavy heart for others. I am not depressed. I say all this with a sense of wonder and appreciation for that which we have come here to experience -- I don't say it with woe or self-pity.

Beautifully said.

[AnthroHeart]

The Divalproex I'm on for mood stabilizing doesn't cause any more suicidal thoughts than I had without them.

But I think my Risperadone does. When I was schizophrenic, I didn't really think about dying. When I got on the drugs,
I feel it is more common now. I have like 5 meds I take throughout the day. Plus fish oil.

My schizophrenic episodes were beautiful, though I was prone to do things against society.

[AnthroHeart]

I see suffering everywhere, and sorrow is my default state. I have a heavy heart for others. I am not depressed. I say all this with a sense of wonder and appreciation for that which we have come here to experience -- I don't say it with woe or self-pity.

I've often wondered, what is the capacity to experience infinite wonder?

[Minyatur]

My default state is blank of emotions mostly. From having opened my rays at various times, my heart on a soul level seems like an abyss of sorrow which I am slowly opening myself to.

In my view sadness is my favorite emotion, in that it is the one I find most beautiful.

[Matt1]

I just accept the experience and allow it to happen. Sometimes listening to sad metal music helps i guess. Sometimes though it almost feels good to be feeling sad or sorry for ones self, its almost like a loving experience with your very own self, as long as its not over indulge in.

[tamaryn]

I just accept the experience and allow it to happen. Sometimes listening to sad metal music helps i guess. Sometimes though it almost feels good to be feeling sad or sorry for ones self, its almost like a loving experience with your very own self, as long as its not over indulge in.

That feeling good vibe is like a drug for self pity. Like calling all your angels and guardians to you and saying, hey im f***** now so pls can i have some unconditional love?

When I was first trying to understand my ancestors and their unhealed soul (my physical body), I would experience energetic "chills" that felt like being under a waterfall of cold energy. As good as this felt and as bad as my vibes were calling the state to me, I developed a kind of pity addiction to call the chilling energy back to me whenever I wanted to feel helpless and at the end of my rope.

The virtue of sadness is it is an initiation to a higher frequency state, with the inverse of the depression being the peak state (spiritual understanding of experience) to be attained in the future if chosen. There is a path to sadness; a great way. Other paths just lead back to sadness.

[Kaaron]

I grasp the intention of you original post a little better now.

The feeling of sadness is one that I grew comfortable with. In fact, I'm only learning to love now as sorrow is all I knew for years.
I would turn inward, punishing myself for perceived wrongdoing to others and myself, feeling that I can't change so maybe, for the good of others, I should kill myself to stop the hurt I will inevitably cause from having a chance to manifest.
I spent at least 20 years in this mind state.

Then my 62 year old cousin told me about my great grandfather.
He was the chief of our tribe yet when Christians colonized us the people appointed his younger brother as Rangatira (chief) as he had been to white school and church. This caused the curse that is on the male line of our family. We all have uncontrollable sorrow, envy and rage. It is a feeling of wanting to turn inside out and destroy everything in a raging inferno, followed by a crushing black hole.

I say this because we Maori have a strong history of resistance to colonization which is still going on and these things cause hurt that echoes down the biological timeline causing unknown consequences for our children. We are the generation that has the duty, responsibility and honor of balancing the scales through conscious channeling of higher energy back up the line, utilizing higher energies not available in our ancestors times.

[rva_jeremy]

I just want to say how much I appreciate a view of the Law of One that does not see butterflies and rainbows everywhere. There is deep sadness in the illusion, in the creation. This has a instrumental utility, of course, but I really feel it has its own independent value and quality. To help people understand that their sorrow and pain is not necessarily an indication that something is "wrong" with them is a great service, tamaryn.