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    Thread: Unconscious perceptions of progression are these selfish matters?


    BlatzAdict (Offline)

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    10-29-2016, 01:14 PM
    From time to time I witness or hear about someone being bullied or put into a situation where one may feel powerless. To those that may have been in situations that have may of made them feel powerless, I always find that it is these people who are bullies themselves have healing work to do just as much as the victims who by ptsd would need to find the similar coping skills to heal. While it is easy to say, it is not easy for the ones that undergo the brunt of the energy exchange that takes place. Whenever someone starts to exhibit a light of themselves pure, unadulterated, people are drawn to that, and can be empowered or disempowered by it.  

    They might seek to view and implement it as a situation of control, or seek to take the vibration consciously or unconsciously in a disempowered fashion. In an empowered fashion it may be what? There has to be some kind of two way street, some kind of give and take. Is there such a thing as spiritual pedophilia? How would an spiritual adept live with someone who is not or accept one who is not? It is violating free will to say that each religion could be a subset of the study of specific archetypes within the central understanding of the one?

    To what degree are we able to define what living in a perpetual childhood? I think that's living from the red orange and yellow all the time. It has to be, what else is it?

    I've been meeting many people who say are this religion or that religion. They come across me the Law of One teach/learner.  The concepts shared are identical, yet because one label is Ra and one is christ, or one is mohammed, there is a division, because of the word, when really it was the logos underlying all texts. I envision a library at the time of Atlantis, and the same stuff in the Law of One was put into these central tablets that had all of the major  and minor religious symbols.

    I think it was shattered, split, and hoarded amongst each warring faction that would go to each different continent. I think today we live in this Diaspora of competing timelines (perceptions and expectation bubbles). 

    Now I will be a bit more blunt since I'm not sure how to say this in any other way. People have come to me in my life to ask me to shatter the veil for them, yet I feel there is nothing I can do except to inspire them to shatter their own, that is to say the attempt to learn for another individual is illusory at best. 

    What are some ways you have tried to bridge this gap of confusion? Will the confusion always be there? I see the parable of the Babel tower occuring here, except it's with our collective use of language. Often times many of us, not just on this forum but elsewhere speak of the same things but have a hard time understanding we're essentially talking around the same concepts. Just had to get that off my chest. 
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    10-31-2016, 08:57 AM
    You're right Blatz, that's about all we can do, is to inspire and radiate the light so that others my "penetrate the veil" for themselves.

    Yesterday I was thinking about the same thing: that the spiritual concepts are the same, but because of the label, people reject it. There's a notion embedded within mainstream religion that THIS religion is the only right way to go.
    Yet when we look at the message given by Jesus Christ on love, it's the same as Ra'a message: love each other as one loves the self, and love the Creator.
    So I see religion as the culture lense through which we see the Creator. It's not wrong, just another valid way of looking at the one Infinite.
    Ra answered Don's question about his wanting to advertise the book so that it could reach more people: consider the coincidences that brought one to this moment, to certain material and information, the flowing nature of events and synchronicity. (I quoted that poorly but y'all can go look it up in book one.)

    How do we bridge this gap? Honestly I think one needs to do that for himself. Yet we can inspire and help when asked. I was confused on this once as well. Through many many years of seeking and studying the gap was bridged beautifully. It all came together in a sparkling moment of brilliance: when I read the Law of One. All that I had studied and sought up to that point came together as the pieces of a puzzle. (More detailed in my Wanderer's story.) But of course, that's just one step upon a never ending path. Truth is subjective and flowing, and it has fallen away quite a few times for a bigger picture. (In my experience) One is humbled by his unknowing, yet strengthened in his desire to seek to know.

    So I would say: seek and ye shall most surely find! All that we need is provided to us when we need it. All is well!
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    10-31-2016, 07:52 PM
    (10-29-2016, 01:14 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: Now I will be a bit more blunt since I'm not sure how to say this in any other way. People have come to me in my life to ask me to shatter the veil for them, yet I feel there is nothing I can do except to inspire them to shatter their own, that is to say the attempt to learn for another individual is illusory at best. 

    I think you are just trying to find the best way to help.

    Every individual, especially Wanderers, comes here with their own unique talents and skills (65.12)

    I think things will be much more satisfying (and fulfilling) once those unique qualities are identified, and then able to be utilized in true service.
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    11-01-2016, 05:50 AM
    (10-29-2016, 01:14 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: Whenever someone starts to exhibit a light of themselves pure, unadulterated, people are drawn to that, and can be empowered or disempowered by it.  

    Very true Smile

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    11-01-2016, 09:25 PM
    (10-29-2016, 01:14 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: Now I will be a bit more blunt since I'm not sure how to say this in any other way. People have come to me in my life to ask me to shatter the veil for them, yet I feel there is nothing I can do except to inspire them to shatter their own, that is to say the attempt to learn for another individual is illusory at best. 

    What are some ways you have tried to bridge this gap of confusion? Will the confusion always be there? I see the parable of the Babel tower occuring here, except it's with our collective use of language. Often times many of us, not just on this forum but elsewhere speak of the same things but have a hard time understanding we're essentially talking around the same concepts. Just had to get that off my chest. 

    If you don't have the awareness to pierce the veil for them, then you haven't pierced the veil for yourself.

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    11-02-2016, 09:26 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2016, 09:31 AM by BlatzAdict.)
    When someone tells me i haven't broken the veil. It actually makes me think of this.

    In session 8 LOO talks about a secret space program where in an international corporate consortium have in effect created their own breakaway civilization owning their own ships capable of sub luminal travel based off the work of Tesla as stated.

    People all over the earth have been cheated out of a jetsons type future, where education, housing, and food are widely more accessible eliminating haves vs have nots. it would virtually eliminate all forms of poverty, and yet i know that these orion groups working with this interplanetary corporate conglomerate have been allowed to proliferate unchecked since the 1940s.

    We're still battling each other for oil on the planet, and we have a group completely surpassing the need for any such thing as there is already access to technology that whatever we are seeing on the surface is a pale comparison to the complexity of the true hidden technology that is in use. 

    I've thought about this over a long long time in that, sure we're just here to love and raise the vibration, though at the same time we're being told that humans have to take care of human affairs and we cannot have anyone intervene from the Confederation unless they are incarnating wanderers.

    That means figuratively we got to take care of our own stuff, yet how can we take care of stuff belonging to some off planet corporation that is no longer earth based and already trading with multiple species? What are we doing to do show up and take it over? The true nature of humanity is so cleverly hidden by itself. 

    If I try to spit everything out people tell me I'm crazy but the facts and research is all there.  All forms of disease could have been solved almost 30 years ago.  I understand the factors in place now lead to the harvest and it is also needed, until people wake up and realize how much they have been cheated for the past 5 thousand years from varying orion influences. If people don't wake up then nothing changes, if people wake up they need to help others wake up, they need to teach what they've learned, there is no learn teach without teach learn. 



    GentleReckoning [font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif][b]Wrote: [/font][/b]


    Quote:"If you don't have the awareness to pierce the veil for them, then you haven't pierced the veil for yourself. " 


    I've noticed this may be a form of spiritual elitism.  This is exactly what I'm talking about as well, the constant need to correct others it's like so rampant in the spiritual field, not recognizing the mastery of the other self, or either the mastery of the higher self. This is a block in worthiness, projecting outward lack in others, pinpoints and mirrors the lack you may feel about yourself in your own endeavors. For someone to have pierced the veil, to meet someone who has not, they are always going to say something diminutive like I'm scared to die, what happens if you die? 



    Or a question like what is it about this other person that was not allowing the veil to be penetrated, other than automatically accusing the other of not having worth. I think this is a mirror of how much worth you have about yourself. I honestly do. Everything is one and there is no other thing to do than to face one self.


    I think we could do better in adopting Indian talking stick styles of communication, with gaining agreement, instead of throwing out comments not really well thought out or compassionate, a victim might take this as being bossy, while a victor would see someone trying to achieve greater communication. 






    "[font='Open Sans', sans-serif]From “The Self Serving Bias,” March 7, 2011

    The self-serving bias is the tendency to glorify one’s self and criticize or minimize others. It’s the tendency to play up one’s victories and successes and play down one’s failures and defeats. It’s the tendency to excuse oneself for anything that doesn’t work and blame it on others and not excuse others for anything that doesn’t work, etc. "[/font]



    [font='Open Sans', sans-serif]http://goldenageofgaia.com/spiritual-essays/the-path-of-awareness/the-self-serving-bias-the-chief-barrier-to-life-working/  
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    Serve your brothers and sisters don't be self serving.

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