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    Monica (Offline)

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    #31
    12-09-2010, 03:25 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 03:30 PM by Monica.)
    (12-09-2010, 02:59 PM)Ashim Wrote: the thread is mixing 3d science with 4d understanding

    Good point!

    (12-09-2010, 02:59 PM)Ashim Wrote: This is Harvest Time ladies and gentlemen and WE are the ones who get a chance to create the world we have always dreamt about, so let's get ON IT NOW!

    Yes!

    (12-09-2010, 02:59 PM)Ashim Wrote: Should I try to explain the orbs, or visible energy spheres visible now in 3d or should we return to another point?

    Please do!
    (12-09-2010, 03:24 PM)unity100 Wrote: in short, the current societal mind is making itself believe, and placing the new experiences in some context in its own mind, just like a person who has just started to having paranormal experiences without having any knowledge beforeheand, does.

    This serves the purpose of allowing free will. Those who prefer to think it's just a physical condition, have a way to do that.

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    12-09-2010, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 03:49 PM by Aaron.)
    (12-08-2010, 04:21 PM)Focus123 Wrote: arent you seeing them in other places ? only the sky ?


    You can see them anywhere but it is the easiest when looking against the blue or white (clouds) in the sky.

    A lot of people get confused about these. I don't claim to know absolutely what they are, but I think it's pretty obvious that they're a phenomenon of the physical human eyeball. (It's an imperfect apparatus, you know!) You're seeing the blood flowing through the minute capillaries on the back inner surface of your eyeballs. That's the dippy, dancing tiny dots with tiny tails.

    The bigger circles and tube like structures are a different thing. Those are bits of junk material (mostly dead cells that have peeled off the inner wall of your eyeballs) floating around in the vitreous humor, which is the clear gel that fills your eyeballs and keeps em nice and round.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters

    Both of those phenomena are completely unrelated to actually perceiving energy fields or whatnot with the eyes.

    Edit: Hah, just read the rest of this thread. Was a bit hasty on posting... Ali, I've heard it described as blood like I try to rediscribe here, but I've never heard of it as the neurons firing. The article you linked on "Blue field entoptic phenomenon" explains it in much better detail. Thank you! BigSmile

    Also, to Focus123, I don't mean to say that I know for sure what you're experiencing is a physical eyeball phenomenon. There are obviously other just as real events that look similar to the physical phenomenon, like those that unity100 shares here. Although the blue field phenomenon, if we want to call it that, can explain away what a whole lot of people think they're seeing, there are always those who will actually be seeing something else.

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    12-09-2010, 03:40 PM
    Quote:Both of those phenomena are completely unrelated to actually perceiving energy fields or whatnot with the eyes


    Ok hear is an experiment. While meditating ,with eyes closed, perceive these tiny specs. After you get them in focus, whether this is a physical phenomena or not-no debate, pick a point in front of you and stare. Anything happen?

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    12-09-2010, 03:51 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 05:08 PM by Monica.)
    (12-09-2010, 03:40 PM)Focus123 Wrote: Ok hear is an experiment. While meditating ,with eyes closed, perceive these tiny specs. After you get them in focus, whether this is a physical phenomena or not-no debate, pick a point in front of you and stare. Anything happen?

    I don't see specs. I see bright, colorful, geometric designs, like checkerboards weaving in and out, different shapes, constantly changing, then a donut in the middle with a bright star in the middle of that.

    I focus on the star while all the designs dance about. It gets deeper and deeper, leading me in.

    The attached images are the closest I can approximate (but without the cross in the middle), but I see many other designs too.


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    12-09-2010, 04:21 PM (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 05:05 PM by Monica.)
    Quote:I don't see specs. I see bright, colorful, geometric designs, like checkerboards weaving in and out, different shapes, constantly changing, then a donut in the middle with a bright star in the middle of that.

    I focus on the star while all the designs dance about. It gets deeper and deeper, leading me in.

    The attached images are the closest I can approximate, but I see many other designs too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFwJG0N8pI0

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    12-09-2010, 04:38 PM
    Thanks Monica, yes the 'orbs' I believe are manifestations in 3rd Density of Souls held in the Astral Planes of Mother Gaia. They exist as packed spheres in densities. They are assisted by the Spiritual Hierarchy. These Light Beings are Souls who decided to remain etheral for the current Cycle or are undergoing the process of karmic restitution. The Souls are restricted to the Astral Planes of our sphere due to karmic effect. Before they can fully return to the Creator and again become all there is, a process of karmic restitution must take place. This is the journey through the octaves in time/space.
    The gift of the Mother to us, her beloved children, is the ability to grow as Souls.
    Think of the orbs as 'little stars'. The more Love you radiate the more they shed their fear.

    Thanks for the prompt.

    Love & Light

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    12-09-2010, 05:07 PM
    (12-09-2010, 04:38 PM)Ashim Wrote: Think of the orbs as 'little stars'. The more Love you radiate the more they shed their fear.

    Thanks for the prompt.

    Beautiful!

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    12-13-2010, 09:58 AM
    Hi everyone,
    Before now I'd never heard of anyone who experienced these phenomena. I've kept quiet for two years. I told a few of my family members about it and it created a rift I haven't yet solved. This isn't easy to discuss.
    I've been seeing luminal objects/energy (i don't know what it is, what is happening so i don't know what to call it) day and night with varying frequency for two and half years.
    I've researched conventional biological and optical explanations and am sternly unsatisfied by them. I believe this is a 'you had to be there' thing. Focus123 and unity100, I feel you both.
    Let me attempt to explain what I see. There isn't one thing happening so I don't know where to start. The most common thing I see is localized flashing light bursts. Also very common is moving light, or a flowing movement of light over a small space. Often this moving light is the opposite, a darkness.
    Very often there are short lived fixed points of light of growing intensity. These lights have a varied duration and come in every colour. They do not change colour. There is another less common, seemingly fixed light. This isn't a crescendo but more of an apparent momentary tear in space.
    At times, a greenish lattice work appears and visible energy can be seen flowing sometimes along its plane.
    Very often a nearly invisible liquid motion, a clearly perceptible, moving wrinkling of space can be seen in the daytime.
    Less frequently partial figures, outlines of figure, a moving illuminated shoulder and arm will pass by a portion of space then disappear.
    On a few occasions tiny toroidal vortices of white light seemingly grew everywhere. The whole room was filled with them at one point. I put my hand through one and it shot into a flash at a right angle to the wall (it lit up a small part of the room).

    It is all very curious... I've never looked in the sky and noticed anything before, but I'll remember to try. I'll post again if I see anything. Thanks for this thread, I was hoping to find this.

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    12-13-2010, 10:14 AM
    Quote:Hi everyone,
    Before now I'd never heard of anyone who experienced these phenomena. I've kept quiet for two years. I told a few of my family members about it and it created a rift I haven't yet solved. This isn't easy to discuss.
    I've been seeing luminal objects/energy (i don't know what it is, what is happening so i don't know what to call it) day and night with varying frequency for two and half years.
    I've researched conventional biological and optical explanations and am sternly unsatisfied by them. I believe this is a 'you had to be there' thing. Focus123 and unity100, I feel you both.
    Let me attempt to explain what I see. There isn't one thing happening so I don't know where to start. The most common thing I see is localized flashing light bursts. Also very common is moving light, or a flowing movement of light over a small space. Often this moving light is the opposite, a darkness.
    Very often there are short lived fixed points of light of growing intensity. These lights have a varied duration and come in every colour. They do not change colour. There is another less common, seemingly fixed light. This isn't a crescendo but more of an apparent momentary tear in space.
    At times, a greenish lattice work appears and visible energy can be seen flowing sometimes along its plane.
    Very often a nearly invisible liquid motion, a clearly perceptible, moving wrinkling of space can be seen in the daytime.
    Less frequently partial figures, outlines of figure, a moving illuminated shoulder and arm will pass by a portion of space then disappear.
    On a few occasions tiny toroidal vortices of white light seemingly grew everywhere. The whole room was filled with them at one point. I put my hand through one and it shot into a flash at a right angle to the wall (it lit up a small part of the room).

    It is all very curious... I've never looked in the sky and noticed anything before, but I'll remember to try. I'll post again if I see anything. Thanks for this thread, I was hoping to find this.

    Very Interesting thanks for sharing.

    On a side note. I have a friend that belongs to a gym I go to. She is a paramedic and just graduated as an Engineer. She is Clairvoyant and since the age of 7 she sees dead people. She was told by her Mother,and I have never heard of this, that we are all born with a White Mask that covers our faces that keeps us from seeing the other side. Her Mother told her she was born without one.

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    12-13-2010, 09:55 PM
    (12-13-2010, 09:58 AM)Jerome Wrote: I've been seeing luminal objects/energy (i don't know what it is, what is happening so i don't know what to call it) day and night with varying frequency for two and half years.
    I've researched conventional biological and optical explanations and am sternly unsatisfied by them. I believe this is a 'you had to be there' thing. Focus123 and unity100, I feel you both.
    Let me attempt to explain what I see. There isn't one thing happening so I don't know where to start. The most common thing I see is localized flashing light bursts. Also very common is moving light, or a flowing movement of light over a small space. Often this moving light is the opposite, a darkness.

    yeah, but the moving lights seem to be actually grabbing up whatever dark energy that is present at that time. so, its possible that you may see them as dark. or, a flashing/moving light or flowing energy may go increasingly more 'dirty' or darker after starting moving. whatever it is, they are soaking up the negative energy stored on you.

    Quote:Very often there are short lived fixed points of light of growing intensity. These lights have a varied duration and come in every colour. They do not change colour. There is another less common, seemingly fixed light. This isn't a crescendo but more of an apparent momentary tear in space.

    hehe. yes. these and above are what i was talking about.


    Quote: At times, a greenish lattice work appears and visible energy can be seen flowing sometimes along its plane.
    Very often a nearly invisible liquid motion, a clearly perceptible, moving wrinkling of space can be seen in the daytime.
    Less frequently partial figures, outlines of figure, a moving illuminated shoulder and arm will pass by a portion of space then disappear.

    i didnt see any shoulder arm or any limb of anything yet.

    Quote: On a few occasions tiny toroidal vortices of white light seemingly grew everywhere. The whole room was filled with them at one point. I put my hand through one and it shot into a flash at a right angle to the wall (it lit up a small part of the room).

    It is all very curious... I've never looked in the sky and noticed anything before, but I'll remember to try. I'll post again if I see anything. Thanks for this thread, I was hoping to find this.

    you dont need to look to the sky. but if you do, you will see more stuff, based on my experience.

    you should pay attention to the communication/thought that happens during experiences and the light flashes.

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    12-14-2010, 03:58 PM
    One time when I was reading a Kryon channeling on my phone, something "grabbed" my attention from about a foot and a half in front of me. I looked up and saw a kind of diamond shaped "hole" in the air, in which many colors were swirling and sparkling. Each little diamond of color inside was a part of the entity as a past life would be a part of you or me. It had several "human" parts. I felt love from it/them. It greeted my very soul with love. Other floating diamond shapes would randomly appear and disappear around its edge, as if I were seeing double.

    Is this the kind of thing you guys are experiencing? Or is it distinctly less entity-like?

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    12-14-2010, 04:27 PM
    thats not what i was describing personally.

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    12-14-2010, 04:36 PM
    Nor I -but it sounds cool!

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    12-14-2010, 08:15 PM
    Thanks for the reply unity100,

    I tend agree with your theory. I have been paying attention to my thoughts as they coincide with this energy phenomenon. The colours of the fixed points, to my memory, coincide with naturally occurring ideas that match the colour of my thought (most often blue - I think often of ideas surrounding communication).

    I think you're correct about my negative energy coming out. Very often the dark and light bursts chase the dark and they fuse and vanish. I've always had the impression that something like you explained was occurring.

    I was concerned in the beginning that I was either losing my mind or had a tumor. However, my mental and physical health has been fine, actually on the rise in all respects since this all started and I have no feeling of concern about the matter. I take it as just another facet of my ever increasing sensitivity to EVERYTHING. From what I gather this heightened sensitivity is shared by a large number of the forum users, albeit with a great variety of expression.

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    12-17-2010, 12:14 AM (This post was last modified: 12-17-2010, 12:18 AM by Monica.)
    Sorry if I missed this, but are you seeing the energy particles in the sky, during the day, at night, or both?
    (12-13-2010, 09:58 AM)Jerome Wrote: a greenish lattice work appears and visible energy can be seen flowing sometimes along its plane.
    Very often a nearly invisible liquid motion, a clearly perceptible, moving wrinkling of space can be seen in the daytime.

    Ah, I got it! We're all on the Star Trek holodeck!

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    12-17-2010, 01:20 AM
    for me, this phenomenon has no daytime, nighttime, place. even when i go to bed and close my eyes before sleeping.

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    12-20-2010, 05:29 PM
    [quote='Bring4th_Monica' pid='24833' dateline='1292559289']
    Sorry if I missed this, but are you seeing the energy particles in the sky, during the day, at night, or both?

    Hi Monica,
    My experience agrees with unity100. Time and location don't seem to factor in. The only factor seems to be state of mind or state of body energy. Generally this phenomenon occurs most consistently when I've sustained a prolonged period of (somewhat balanced) seeking.

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    12-20-2010, 10:33 PM
    (12-20-2010, 05:29 PM)Jerome Wrote: [quote='Bring4th_Monica' pid='24833' dateline='1292559289']
    Sorry if I missed this, but are you seeing the energy particles in the sky, during the day, at night, or both?

    Hi Monica,
    My experience agrees with unity100. Time and location don't seem to factor in. The only factor seems to be state of mind or state of body energy. Generally this phenomenon occurs most consistently when I've sustained a prolonged period of (somewhat balanced) seeking.

    doesnt it also happen when you are extremely drained, tired, etc ?

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    12-21-2010, 05:28 PM
    doesnt it also happen when you are extremely drained, tired, etc ?
    [/quote]

    Yes, very much so. I almost mentioned this in the last reply.
    Last summer I happened to miss two straight nights of sleep. After about 70 hours of being awake, just before I went to sleep, the room was filled with semi-transparent structure and most of this was moving around. I wanted to see more of it but was far too tired to stay conscious.
    I'm reading the transcripts of the early channeling sessions right now. I found something of interest to this thread last night. This is from January 10, 1974.
    Take it away Oxal:

    "...I am at this time in the room here with you. If you look, you can see me, but I am afraid that you have not totally learned to look. Be patient, and you will see me. I am Oxal. It is really a very great privilege to be with you here. And it is, I must assure you, an extremely interesting and glorious thing to do, to be able to be in this place at this time. We of the Confederation are constantly moving about with your people, moving into their homes and industries, offices, wherever they my be. We do not intend to snoop, my friends, but it is necessary to know what is happening upon your surface, and what is going on, you might say, in the minds of your people. For this reason, those of us who are so able to do this are constantly moving about on the surface of your planet. We are called to instruments such as this one by a so-called direct telepathic thought. This is the way that you explain it in your language. We do not think of it this way. We do not think of it [as] a possibility of separation. Since the creation, my friends, is one thing, it is very difficult for us to suppose that you could separate mind.

    We share a mind, my friends. The people of your planet have simply, for quite some period in the past, denied this possibility of sharing. This is the natural way for things to be, my friends. It is very natural that we should share a single mind, as we share everything.

    As I was saying, I am here with you in this room now, and since I am sharing with you your minds, I am sharing with you your thoughts. It is apparent to me that each of you is somewhat confused about certain things that we intend. Do not let this trouble you, my friends, because certain things are very difficult to understand from your perspective at this particular time. I can tell you, however, that we intend to do everything that you have been told tonight. We definitely intend to awaken the people of your planet. We have gained enough knowledge in the way that I have spoken of about the actions and thinking of the people of your planet to know them almost as well as we know ourselves. We have spent considerable time studying the people of this planet, and we have found that there are a reasonably large number of them that can join us in the peace and the love of our Creator’s infinite creation."

    Thoughts?

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    12-21-2010, 08:32 PM
    not necessarily the same thing we were talking about.

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    12-22-2010, 09:17 AM
    I've something like this happen my whole life (though i dunno if its the same thing) where i will get a kind headrush, it feels like what i would imagine to be an intense heatstroke, but without the heat of that makes sense. i usually then close my eyes (at least i think i do, remember them always appearing first against a black/dark background, but they remain afterwards for about a minute or two (very much like when you look at something really bright and it leaves overlay in your vision for while. they swirl around in this strange kind of motion that is both discreet and continuous. the movement appears random, but the specks seem to have a uniform distribution although not equidistant.

    (note: i only read the 1st 2 or 3 posts before writing to preserve the "independence" of my experience)

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    12-22-2010, 09:44 AM
    wow.

    what kind of circumstances are you living in ? do you have any health condition or something ? that particular thing you describe generally happens when someone is in distress energetically, psychologically or physiologically, from my experience.

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    12-23-2010, 06:24 PM
    (12-14-2010, 03:58 PM)Aaron Wrote: One time when I was reading a Kryon channeling on my phone, something "grabbed" my attention from about a foot and a half in front of me. I looked up and saw a kind of diamond shaped "hole" in the air, in which many colors were swirling and sparkling. Each little diamond of color inside was a part of the entity as a past life would be a part of you or me. It had several "human" parts. I felt love from it/them. It greeted my very soul with love. Other floating diamond shapes would randomly appear and disappear around its edge, as if I were seeing double.

    Wonderful!

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    02-27-2011, 02:32 PM
    I've always experienced the flying light particles to be the life force of the earth, and the life force of us.

    I believe it is chi or what the ancients refer to as ether. Either it's a mass hallucination... or how about accepting that it's something our 3D science cannot possibly understand under the veil of confusion.

    When I do pyrokinesis work. I see them start to do work for me.
    One time during a winter I sent chi to melt some ice. The way those little specks fly around... made an impression on the snow almost like inverted bubble wrap.

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    02-27-2011, 03:03 PM
    Quote:I've always experienced the flying light particles to be the life force of the earth, and the life force of us

    I tend to agree with this, but not only of the earth but relevant to each Density-see my dream on page one, 8th response down. One might say that it is Intelligent Energy?

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    02-27-2011, 03:09 PM
    (02-27-2011, 03:03 PM)Focus123 Wrote: I tend to agree with this, but not only of the earth but relevant to each Density-see my dream on page one, 8th response down. One might say that it is Intelligent Energy?

    nice to see you are driving down the same highway i am... how do you do? i'm on cruise control and it's quite lonely up on this road.

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    02-27-2011, 04:10 PM
    Quote:nice to see you are driving down the same highway i am... how do you do? i'm on cruise control and it's quite lonely up on this road.


    Yeah, its lonely, very few people in my everyday life discuss these topics. Its nice to see someone at a young age-(I am 51)- that is a head of the curve. At 27 I was still not thinking along these lines. Hang in there .

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    02-27-2011, 05:42 PM
    (12-08-2010, 02:25 PM)Focus123 Wrote: Does anyone see the flying specks in the sky. They look like little flying white balls of light. They are flying erratically and are everywhere. In all of Ra's sessions I don't see any mention of them.



    this sounds like those things i see when i look at a clear blue sky, i see bouncy light waves or something.

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    02-27-2011, 06:17 PM
    Quote:this sounds like those things i see when i look at a clear blue sky, i see bouncy light waves or something.

    Yep that's them. Try focusing on a point in the sky while keeping them in sight.

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    02-27-2011, 07:18 PM
    (12-17-2010, 12:14 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Ah, I got it! We're all on the Star Trek holodeck!

    now i'm going to forget about particles and watch some Star Trek! Tongue

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