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    #31
    05-16-2012, 10:19 PM (This post was last modified: 05-16-2012, 10:19 PM by Parsons.)
    Both "coiled-snake" pics did nothing to me that I could perceive, but that other polaroid picture did most definitely. I tried to see if it was photoshopped, and it doesn't appear to be photoshopped unless the whole thing is fabricated, then image quality lowered until it hides the editing done. The red hand, the dog and the bloody fingerprints dont appear to be added in.

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    05-16-2012, 11:08 PM
    The industrial revolution and most subsequent technology has been utterly controlled by negative beings, hence the technology we have today is used almost exclusively to serve the STS beings as a means of control. A good case can be made that technology itself, at least on Earth at this time, is inherently bad for humanity whether promoted by positive or negative beings. Who has not wished for a return to a more simple way of life, close to nature and secure within a watershed-based community...?

    There can be little doubt that the vector of human involvement with advanced technology is currently spiraling out of control with everyone and their mother with a cell phone in their ear and microwaved tv dinners. If it's not Orion behind it, it's someone else who wants to control this planet.
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    #34
    05-16-2012, 11:12 PM
    (05-16-2012, 03:38 PM)Valtor Wrote:
    (05-16-2012, 02:21 PM)Pickle Wrote: Wolf like dog?
    ...

    This one.

    http://www.creepypastaindex.com/creepypa...-smile-jpg
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    (05-16-2012, 03:35 PM)Pickle Wrote: I am not talking about pressure, pulsations, or tingling. This is something completely different. If you became aware of what is there you would find what I mean.

    Becoming aware of these things adds to the choices available to you.

    Being more sensitive to fear? What kind of choices would that bring?
    With the wolf one I am able to feel a little pull on the solar plexus chakra. The beginning of the onset of fear. But it fades quickly and has no hold on me. I like it this way. Why would I want to change that ? I worked hard to get there. Changing this would feel like going backward.


    Honestly the wolf got me more than the other two did.
    I didn't sense anything.
    Guess I am just not perceptive enough. Wink

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    05-16-2012, 11:19 PM (This post was last modified: 05-16-2012, 11:19 PM by Parsons.)
    Either that or the snake-related ones are encoded to make people who have had past life fear of snakes / reptiles fear, as well as them both being more subtle, right brained intuition base fear. While the dog smile one makes left brained, logic based people fear it for some unbeknownst reason.

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    05-16-2012, 11:21 PM
    Looks to me like it just plays on your fear of the dark. It looks like a Husky to me. With a set of false teeth stuck in its mouth.

    Could be that my mind rationalizes fear away. It may be a result of my optimist programming.

    Here is my perception of fear as a young teenager. A demonic black imp 3 foot tall would seem to be scary in the dark. Would this same 3 foot tall being scare you midday in the middle of a football field?

    If not, then i have to say you are not scared of the being, you are scared of the dark.

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    05-16-2012, 11:29 PM
    Thus being scared of the dark comes from fearing the unknown, the mystery...

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    05-17-2012, 08:52 AM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 08:56 AM by Patrick.)
    (05-16-2012, 11:08 PM)indolering Wrote: The industrial revolution and most subsequent technology has been utterly controlled by negative beings, hence the technology we have today is used almost exclusively to serve the STS beings as a means of control. A good case can be made that technology itself, at least on Earth at this time, is inherently bad for humanity whether promoted by positive or negative beings. Who has not wished for a return to a more simple way of life, close to nature and secure within a watershed-based community...?

    There can be little doubt that the vector of human involvement with advanced technology is currently spiraling out of control with everyone and their mother with a cell phone in their ear and microwaved tv dinners. If it's not Orion behind it, it's someone else who wants to control this planet.

    That's their intent. But trust me, it's going to backfire on them. This will ultimately be our salvation. Smile
    (05-16-2012, 11:29 PM)TheEternal Wrote: Thus being scared of the dark comes from fearing the unknown, the mystery...

    I still believe that not sensing the negative in all of this is a good thing. It means I'm protected against these negative intentions that may be encoded in them. I worked with fear A LOT in this incarnation. Now that I released so much of it, these effect (spell) do not have hold of me.
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    05-17-2012, 11:38 AM
    (05-17-2012, 08:52 AM)Valtor Wrote: I still believe that not sensing the negative in all of this is a good thing. It means I'm protected against these negative intentions that may be encoded in them. I worked with fear A LOT in this incarnation. Now that I released so much of it, these effect (spell) do not have hold of me.

    The point is the subconscious programming that takes place. If we don't "sense it", then the purpose has been successful.


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    05-17-2012, 12:39 PM
    (05-17-2012, 11:38 AM)Pickle Wrote:
    (05-17-2012, 08:52 AM)Valtor Wrote: I still believe that not sensing the negative in all of this is a good thing. It means I'm protected against these negative intentions that may be encoded in them. I worked with fear A LOT in this incarnation. Now that I released so much of it, these effect (spell) do not have hold of me.

    The point is the subconscious programming that takes place. If we don't "sense it", then the purpose has been successful.

    I came to Earth with the purpose of being submitted to these programmings. Mainly for the very dense catalysts that this provides. The Elites may do as they please. The reality within my sphere of influence is full of light, full of love, full of understanding and full of harmony. Because I choose this reality, I co-create it. i.e.: I do not watch the news or TV. That would only bring all the negativity, brought by the Elites and accepted by humans, within my reality. You see what I mean ?

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    05-17-2012, 01:04 PM
    Hmm, not trying to crap on your point, but I am not afraid of the dark (I routinely walk into pitch black rooms without so much as a thought about what "could be in there"). For example, I walk into my garage all the time (pitch black) and walk a 2 paces into the room so the motion sensitive light goes off rather than hit the lightswitch.

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    05-17-2012, 01:32 PM
    (05-17-2012, 12:39 PM)Valtor Wrote: I came to Earth with the purpose of being submitted to these programmings. Mainly for the very dense catalysts that this provides. The Elites may do as they please. The reality within my sphere of influence is full of light, full of love, full of understanding and full of harmony. Because I choose this reality, I co-create it. i.e.: I do not watch the news or TV. That would only bring all the negativity, brought by the Elites and accepted by humans, within my reality. You see what I mean ?

    I do not "see" what you mean. You are saying that you chose to remove a small spectrum of negative influence from your life and that the rest of the spectrum does not matter. Why does TV matter? Simply because you were aware of it. Why not expand this awareness?

    The whole point to being here is the expansion of awareness, not simply the common definition of "acceptance". The definition of "victim" includes an aspect of involuntary acceptance. Evolution involves change and expansion.

    The structure you live within and accept is designed to advance synthetic evolution while keeping human evolution in stasis.

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    05-17-2012, 02:17 PM
    (05-17-2012, 01:32 PM)Pickle Wrote:
    (05-17-2012, 12:39 PM)Valtor Wrote: I came to Earth with the purpose of being submitted to these programmings. Mainly for the very dense catalysts that this provides. The Elites may do as they please. The reality within my sphere of influence is full of light, full of love, full of understanding and full of harmony. Because I choose this reality, I co-create it. i.e.: I do not watch the news or TV. That would only bring all the negativity, brought by the Elites and accepted by humans, within my reality. You see what I mean ?

    I do not "see" what you mean. You are saying that you chose to remove a small spectrum of negative influence from your life and that the rest of the spectrum does not matter. Why does TV matter? Simply because you were aware of it. Why not expand this awareness?

    The whole point to being here is the expansion of awareness, not simply the common definition of "acceptance". The definition of "victim" includes an aspect of involuntary acceptance. Evolution involves change and expansion.

    The structure you live within and accept is designed to advance synthetic evolution while keeping human evolution in stasis.

    I don't know if I'm removing negative influence from my life, I simply choose to let it flow around me without reacting to it, without letting it get a hold on me. My primary reason to be here is to bring my light/love to planet Earth, everything else is secondary. Also, in my beliefs, the concept of "victim" does not exist.

    I accept the existence of the structures I live within, but that does not mean that my Self aligns with all aspects of it. There are choices to make. Wink
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    05-17-2012, 02:28 PM
    (05-17-2012, 02:17 PM)Valtor Wrote: the concept of "victim" does not exist.

    Kind of like evil does not exist. It exists as an illusion and part of the framework of this experience. So while we are here, it does exist. If it doesn't, why is there any need for change? If there is no such thing as victim, then what is the point of helping anyone? We should be leaving them to their own devices as growth takes "time".

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    05-17-2012, 03:03 PM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 03:05 PM by BrownEye.)
    At what age can you care for yourself?
    I'm talking logic here, I am in no way a victim from my perspective.
    (05-17-2012, 03:02 PM)TheEternal Wrote: Seems like a "everyone's special so no one is special" kind of thing.

    Isn't this the truth?BigSmile

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    I absolutely agree with you, and I'm glad you've made it a little more clear your thoughts. Smile
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    05-17-2012, 03:31 PM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 03:40 PM by Patrick.)
    (05-17-2012, 02:28 PM)Pickle Wrote:
    (05-17-2012, 02:17 PM)Valtor Wrote: the concept of "victim" does not exist.

    Kind of like evil does not exist. It exists as an illusion and part of the framework of this experience. So while we are here, it does exist. If it doesn't, why is there any need for change? If there is no such thing as victim, then what is the point of helping anyone? We should be leaving them to their own devices as growth takes "time".

    I like where the discussion is going. I feel we will cover come ground in understanding each other. Smile

    The reason why I say that victims do not exists is that the victim chose to experience what appears to make them a victim before incarnating.

    "...then what is the point of helping anyone?"

    Excellent question ! The answer to this is always personal of course, in my case I will offer help if I believe that help was requested of me or give my help when I am actually asked for it. I simply do not see what else I could do.
    (05-17-2012, 03:28 PM)TheEternal Wrote: I absolutely agree with you, and I'm glad you've made it a little more clear your thoughts. Smile

    Indeed! I agree Pickle. This prison you see, before incarnating here I saw it as a great university. Once inside of it though, I must admit that it took me a little while to see it once again as a great university. Smile
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    05-17-2012, 09:13 PM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 09:14 PM by Parsons.)
    (05-17-2012, 03:24 PM)Pickle Wrote: What do you do today that was not filtered and learned through this system? We only think the world is round because we saw it on a video. What have we actually done or experienced to know beyond what we are fed? (of course some of us travel oobe so I am sure you proved it to yourself in that way) See what I mean? The system revolves around belief that is built upon choices that are inside a framework that has been chosen for us. You want a car because the choice was offered to you, you want that color because that color was offered to you. This applies to the shapes of things as well. Even clothing, you get to choose what is already produced that someone has decided is good for you.

    We don't go out and create solid reality very much, our eyes are focused within the structure put in front of us and where our gaze travels our path follows.

    This is why I am not comfortable in society LoL!

    Im so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I especially noticed the clothing part and am quite annoyed by this. But this almost universally applies; it is very very difficult to find something that is not trying to sell itself to you so the owner of the company can make more money. Heck, even the house I live in is a perfect example of this. It looks very pretty and liveable when the house is empty and you are being shown it in a very short time period (so you don't notice much besides the surface). But after you live in the house for a couple of months, you discover the plumbing sucks, the hardwood floors are cheap particle board lookalikes. The walls have little to no insulation despite it being one of the hottest cities in the US and despite it being much newer than the last crappy house/apartment I lived in. Everything turns out to be shallow with surface beauty only. Everything is designed to wear out rather than the opposite of which would be quality and longevity.

    These are the reasons I have pretty much completely lost faith in capitalism because it seems to encourage this unrelentingly. Of course then if you voice any of these concerns, the sheeple are trained to call you "communist" whether or not that makes any sense at all.
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    05-17-2012, 09:21 PM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 09:24 PM by Patrick.)
    The concept of money is of course so far the most successful endeavor of the Elites to control humanity. Most humans now are quite simply slaves, willingly I might add. Money was pretty much the only thing that managed to anger Jesus (according to the bible). It's also the concept that I personally struggled with the most on the path of acceptance. Accepting that humans are happy to be slaves and promote this to their children. Well IMHO they are not happy, but that's another matter, they just don't want to hear that it's all because of the concept of money. Smile
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    (05-17-2012, 09:13 PM)DuncanIdahoTPF Wrote: Heck, even the house I live in is a perfect example of this. It looks very pretty and liveable when the house is empty and you are being shown it in a very short time period (so you don't notice much besides the surface). But after you live in the house for a couple of months, you discover the plumbing sucks, the hardwood floors are cheap particle board lookalikes. The walls have little to no insulation despite it being one of the hottest cities in the US and despite it being much newer than the last crappy house/apartment I lived in. Everything turns out to be shallow with surface beauty only. Everything is designed to wear out rather than the opposite of which would be quality and longevity.

    this is called "Producing stuff for the trash can". Manufacturers will deliberately produce low quality, so that the consumers need to get new stuff as often as possible.
    I read an article about it not so long ago, for example, in the 50s, there was a company that manufactured nylons and had found a certain formula so they would not ladder.
    So if a woman bought their nylons she would literally wear them forever because the fabric was of such good quality.
    Now what happens, is that the company owners found out they might sell a lot more, if the nylons were not made to last... they asked an engineer to devise a new formula, so the stockings would still look the same but be easier torn and ladder.
    And so they proceeded... and sold a lot more of course.
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    05-18-2012, 01:55 AM
    (05-17-2012, 09:21 PM)Valtor Wrote: The concept of money is of course so far the most successful endeavor of the Elites to control humanity. Most humans now are quite simply slaves, willingly I might add. Money was pretty much the only thing that managed to anger Jesus (according to the bible). It's also the concept that I personally struggled with the most on the path of acceptance. Accepting that humans are happy to be slaves and promote this to their children. Well IMHO they are not happy, but that's another matter, they just don't want to hear that it's all because of the concept of money. Smile

    I was talking today about the importance of "ownership". And how ownership was an illusion. We work all of our lives to some day own a house and property, but if you do not continue to pay it is taken. No matter where you are, you pay taxes to continue to remain where you are. So in reality all we do is lease.

    There is no freedom. You have to pay to remain where you are. You have to pay even if you want to leave, but then you can't just stop anywhere and stay either.

    They have even thrown it in our face making bumper stickers saying "freedom isn't free".

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    05-18-2012, 07:46 AM
    (05-18-2012, 01:55 AM)Pickle Wrote: ...
    They have even thrown it in our face making bumper stickers saying "freedom isn't free".

    And made it the American "dream". These Elites are quite cheeky fellows.

    "Cheeky is a word used to describe someone who does something or says something sort of disrespectful and sometimes rude, but says it in a cunning way..."

    Cheeky fellows indeed. Smile
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    (05-18-2012, 01:55 AM)Pickle Wrote:
    (05-17-2012, 09:21 PM)Valtor Wrote: The concept of money is of course so far the most successful endeavor of the Elites to control humanity. Most humans now are quite simply slaves, willingly I might add. Money was pretty much the only thing that managed to anger Jesus (according to the bible). It's also the concept that I personally struggled with the most on the path of acceptance. Accepting that humans are happy to be slaves and promote this to their children. Well IMHO they are not happy, but that's another matter, they just don't want to hear that it's all because of the concept of money. Smile

    I was talking today about the importance of "ownership". And how ownership was an illusion. We work all of our lives to some day own a house and property, but if you do not continue to pay it is taken. No matter where you are, you pay taxes to continue to remain where you are. So in reality all we do is lease.

    There is no freedom. You have to pay to remain where you are. You have to pay even if you want to leave, but then you can't just stop anywhere and stay either.

    They have even thrown it in our face making bumper stickers saying "freedom isn't free".

    Aha! I had a whole rant in my mind this morning as I laid hungover in bed about how to call something "mine" is meaningless.
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    05-18-2012, 12:27 PM (This post was last modified: 05-18-2012, 12:34 PM by Diana.)
    (05-18-2012, 01:45 AM)Meerie Wrote: this is called "Producing stuff for the trash can". Manufacturers will deliberately produce low quality, so that the consumers need to get new stuff as often as possible.

    It's called "planned obsolescence," and is worked into marketing and business plans.


    (05-18-2012, 01:55 AM)Pickle Wrote: I was talking today about the importance of "ownership". And how ownership was an illusion. We work all of our lives to some day own a house and property, but if you do not continue to pay it is taken. No matter where you are, you pay taxes to continue to remain where you are. So in reality all we do is lease.

    I like to think that I am a steward, and that I don't own my property, for instance, I am caretaker of it. I would be caretaker of any environment I was in--even an apartment, and the tree outside of the apartment, and the plant life and animals within my current domain.



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    05-18-2012, 12:52 PM
    (05-18-2012, 12:27 PM)Diana Wrote: I like to think that I am a steward, and that I don't own my property, for instance, I am caretaker of it. I would be caretaker of any environment I was in--even an apartment, and the tree outside of the apartment, and the plant life and animals within my current domain.
    Very good way to look at it. We can clear our own areas, send off any "stuck" energies, and even affect those in our area that we interact with.
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