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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies L/L Research Channeling Archives 2011.01.08 - Social memory complex and the self in third density

    Thread: 2011.01.08 - Social memory complex and the self in third density


    Patrick (Offline)

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    #31
    06-17-2012, 10:20 PM
    I am currently experiencing "Indigo ray" self-worth issues, which are different from "Orange ray" self-worth issues. I believe this is preventing me from having such an experience.

    Orange ray unworthiness issues are what is typically described in psychology. Indigo ray unworthiness has more to do with you not being able to accept your INFINITE worth for the Creator. Not being able to accept that the current you (just as it currently is) is INFINITELY worthy of the Creation, of the Creator and of being the Creator. Not being able to accept that without YOU, nothing would ever be complete, nothing could ever possibly be complete without the you that you currently are.

    Anyway, that's Indigo ray self-worth issues and it looks like you my friend are piercing this wall. We all get there eventually and I will too at some point. Smile

    Love and Light to you my friend !

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    #32
    06-17-2012, 11:09 PM
    (06-17-2012, 10:20 PM)Patrick Wrote: I am currently experiencing "Indigo ray" self-worth issues, which are different from "Orange ray" self-worth issues. I believe this is preventing me from having such an experience.

    Hmpf! Do you think that I don't have indigo ray issues, and especially when it comes to self-worth? And Carla had dimmed indigo ray too, during the contact. Ra told her to contemplate herself as the Creator for instance couple of times. Yet, she was able to do what an awesome magic. But nice try, Patrick! Wink
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    #33
    06-17-2012, 11:58 PM
    I know I'am apart of the arcturus complex or affiliated with it in some way, ditto with the Ra complex. I have had numerous synchronizations and feelings given to me after asking to connect to my memory complexes. Funnily enough at the time of year the arcturus system and venus are visible to me every night from my backyard is the most fruitful time of year for me catalyst and journey wise.

    Can't wait to meet them especially since they are supposed to be quite advanced and old. The description of wanderers from Arcturus fits me quite well as well.
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    #34
    06-18-2012, 09:34 AM (This post was last modified: 06-18-2012, 09:35 AM by Patrick.)
    Ah well, like I said before you're just lucky then. Tongue
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    #35
    06-18-2012, 11:33 AM
    Beautiful, Ankh.
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    #36
    06-18-2012, 11:40 PM
    @Sagittarius I also have been admiring Arcturus longingly as of late; I am curious about our beautifully colored neighbor. I just don't have any reason why, I am simply drawn to it.
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    #37
    06-19-2012, 12:27 AM
    It's weird sometimes it's like I can feel there presence when I think about them and the signs pointing me towards them for whatever reason, always gives me a little buzz of energy and clears my mind.

    I think everyone on this forum is joined to Ra or at least the earlier version of Ra. Most of us are on here because we read some of the material and it resonated so deeply with us it was reality changing. I'll never forget the weeks I was reading this for the first time, everyday I discovered more and more. Plus I know I was drawn to Ra in Egyptian mythology as a kid, I couldn't get enough of ancient history especially mythology. I knew more about greek mythology then my teacher when I was 9, we where on a field trip and walking at night in the countryside looking at the stars as a class.

    I started pointing out constellations and telling the class there meanings and the parables behind them, my teacher was pretty gobsmacked as I was a free spirit when I was a kid and basically did what I wanted 100% of the time and that didn't include homework lol.

    Wow haven't thought of that in a long time it's such a pleasant memory, my whole childhood is one big pleasant memory.
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    09-19-2012, 09:15 AM
    (06-19-2012, 12:27 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Wow haven't thought of that in a long time it's such a pleasant memory, my whole childhood is one big pleasant memory.

    Sounds like a good mantra.

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    #39
    09-19-2012, 10:58 AM
    How about us 3D aliens who do not identify as wanderers, can we contact our future social memory complex?

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    09-27-2012, 03:49 AM
    (09-19-2012, 10:58 AM)Spaced Wrote: How about us 3D aliens who do not identify as wanderers, can we contact our future social memory complex?

    "3D aliens who do not identify as wanderers" - who are they? BigSmile

    I believe that it's possible for any entity regardless the native density to contact its (future/present) social memory complex which the Higher Self is a part of. However, there might not be a very strong desire to do it though, or interest. For me personally this journey started a long time ago, because the missing of my spiritual family and calling for them was intense. The desire to have this contact from my part and calling and their answer then, is what brought these experiences that I have had with them in this third density, I think. Anyways, I believe that it doesn't matter the native density of each entity if one is desiring to have this contact, but I might be wrong.
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    09-27-2012, 11:51 AM
    How do you know when you've made contact with your native social memory complex? Do you start to get concrete thoughts about what they're saying? Is meditation required?

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    09-27-2012, 11:30 PM
    (09-27-2012, 11:51 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: How do you know when you've made contact with your native social memory complex? Do you start to get concrete thoughts about what they're saying?
    A common approach is to direct concepts to your dreams at times when you are most likely to be impressed or to remember.

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    #43
    10-11-2012, 02:15 PM
    (06-17-2012, 10:20 PM)Patrick Wrote: Indigo ray unworthiness has more to do with you not being able to accept your INFINITE worth for the Creator. Not being able to accept that the current you (just as it currently is) is INFINITELY worthy of the Creation, of the Creator and of being the Creator. Not being able to accept that without YOU, nothing would ever be complete, nothing could ever possibly be complete without the you that you currently are.

    Could the orange ray unworthiness and indigo ray unworthiness have some connection to each other? In terms of... could the orange ray unworthiness have utility in understanding the indigo ray unworthiness?

    Sometimes it feels the unworthiness comes from something from past life etc. And even in remembrance of that unconditional love there's this sense of unworthiness and guilt. It's even hard to know where to start to release that.

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    10-11-2012, 02:27 PM (This post was last modified: 10-11-2012, 02:37 PM by Patrick.)
    (10-11-2012, 02:15 PM)rie Wrote:
    (06-17-2012, 10:20 PM)Patrick Wrote: Indigo ray unworthiness has more to do with you not being able to accept your INFINITE worth for the Creator. Not being able to accept that the current you (just as it currently is) is INFINITELY worthy of the Creation, of the Creator and of being the Creator. Not being able to accept that without YOU, nothing would ever be complete, nothing could ever possibly be complete without the you that you currently are.

    Could the orange ray unworthiness and indigo ray unworthiness have some connection to each other? In terms of... could the orange ray unworthiness have utility in understanding the indigo ray unworthiness?

    Sometimes it feels the unworthiness comes from something from past life etc. And even in remembrance of that unconditional love there's this sense of unworthiness and guilt. It's even hard to know where to start to release that.

    If I remember correctly, orange ray unworthiness is deep depression. Not wanting to go on, not feeling worthy of life. Suicidal. Or am I mixing it with red ray issues ? humm.

    I guess some catalysts could trigger orange ray issues when they encounter orange ray blockages and other kinds of catalysts could reach indigo ray blockages, all at the same time.

    In any case, forgiveness of Self is key. We chose our limitations and positive use of our experiences is acceptance. We are always failing in this world, so we are always in need of forgiving the Self.

    As much as I want to love everything, every situation and every one unconditionally, just as they are, I fail constantly. So I forgive my Self constantly and when I do succeed, I try to feel gratitude instead of pride.

    This is what working in indigo ray feels like to me.
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    #45
    10-11-2012, 02:42 PM
    Is it easy Patrick for you to see yourself and others as Creator?
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    10-11-2012, 02:53 PM
    (10-11-2012, 02:42 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is it easy Patrick for you to see yourself and others as Creator?

    It's easy to say it, accept it and try to see it. I do believe it 100%, that all are the Creator. But somehow, that knowing doesn't change anything about this veiled 3d experience. Catalysts continues to come in and the sense of "others" and self is still in effect. It changes my perspective though, but that's pretty much all it can do in this world. Still that's very powerful, the perspective we have on the world. So I'm quite grateful for my faith in all being the Creator and trying to act accordingly.

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    10-11-2012, 02:57 PM
    Yes, it is self empowering and humbling to see oneself as Creator. Though there's still that veiled 3d feeling of separation as I believe you alluded to. I'm actually not striving for oneness in this 3D reality. I know that will come in 4D. I'm here to experience what I can in 3D, and to enjoy myself.

    It might be hard to have a relationship if you felt and experience the other person was you. I kind of like experiencing them as someone else, rather than myself.
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    05-24-2014, 09:05 PM
    I was thinking of my social memory complex of my higher self today. That's what made me find this wonderful thread. I'm glad you started it. I've been wanting to feel their love. A love that's been a long time in coming. I too have the homesickness. While I don't have a bad life, it's not ideal. Ideal would be to be able to spend more time meditating on my social memory complex. Working with my higher self to heal my imbalances. To remove my sadness. I never realized it would be so hard.

    (06-17-2012, 10:00 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    (06-17-2012, 11:30 AM)Patrick Wrote: You lucky you. Wink

    Yes, I've wondered myself what did I do to deserve it. But my belief is that every Wanderer is able to contact its own social memory complex, in its own way, if it desires and asks for it. I am sharing my experiences, because of my distortions towards homesickness; and maybe there are others here who feel in the same way as I do, about their spiritual family, and in that case I want to give them hope perhaps, of what is possible. And Q'uo tells what is possible too.

    What happened earlier this week, before this, is that my heart energy center got activated at one point, and I experienced the same understandings (beyond the words etc) although not in the same clarity as those described above. These understandings were in the lines like: I've been "calling" them for a while. But they have been "calling" me too, for a while. I have just not been able to understand their answers until now. They also let me understand that if there is such desire to be one with each other again, there is nothing in the creation that can keep us apart. So if I desire, I will come "home" again, to my group. But although it was clear message, I am not that certain to believe it as much as I believe the one I described above in regards to the clarity provided by the social memory complex. Because honestly, the earlier message, given through the heart center, was "just too good to be true" somehow... But I dunno... :-/
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    05-25-2014, 03:57 AM
    I am glad that you found this thread helpful, Wolf! As I mentioned in this thread, it is totally possible to have contact with its own social memory complex. It's not always one is able to "hear" them, due to function of free will, but *they* and many others are always there for you, in my understanding. Smile

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