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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies L/L Research Channeling Archives 2008.03.15 - Ashims Dream

    Thread: 2008.03.15 - Ashims Dream


    Ashim (Offline)

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    #1
    03-17-2010, 02:46 PM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2010, 08:14 PM by Steppingfeet.)
    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0315.aspx
    Quote:For a great portion of your last major cycle of
    75,000-plus years, those who have graduated to
    fourth density have felt it necessary to defend their
    polarity from the opposite polarity as if they were
    still in third density. The entities involved in this
    war are of the inner planes rather than coming from
    outside the planet. Fourth-density wanderers are not
    coming in to carry on this war. Rather, there are
    entities coming in which, having reached
    harvestability, have chosen not to go on to fourth
    density but to remain in the inner planes of third
    density.
    Their awareness is that of fourth density, yet their
    prejudices remain those of third density. So, they are
    convinced that they must defend the souls of planet
    Earth from negative polarity. Likewise, those who
    have graduated in the negative sense see it as their
    business to battle the light.
    Q'uo

    Here is my take on this. As with all my posts please disregard my words if they are of no use to you and do not serve to help you on your own personal journey.

    Reading the quote above made me make up a little ‘story’ in my head. Thought I would share it with my Brothers and Sisters. You are much loved.

    The inner planes of 3rd density = Inner Earth
    Earth is hollow.
    They are literally ‘inside’ the planet. Old Earth. Down the ‘rabbit hole’.
    The entities being ready for graduation to 4th density at the end of their last cycle decided (in loving Service) to return to an incarnation in 3D . They reside on the inner planes of the 3D Planet.
    That means inside. In concentric ‘rings’.
    Enjoying 4th density awareness means that they are able to ‘interact’ with us telepathically.
    They are our guides, angels, spirits, demons and ‘dead’ relations.
    They are ancestors and Family and all of us are involved in this Grand Game.
    They are co-directing the ‘play’ along with us.
    The question is – how many of us are playing consciously?

    We seek to integrate Polarity. That is our common Divine Purpose.
    This allows the Creator to experience himself in the best possible way.
    This is the Law of One.
    Membership in the Galactic Confederation of Worlds is available from 4D+ onwards.
    Then there is the Orion Empire and other groups also serving from this ‘inner’ location..
    They aim more to ‘trick’ you into losing Polarity.
    There are bases on and in Earth. On the Moon. On Mars. On Venus. In fact all Planets in the system are inhabited in one way or another.
    All densities and involved parties are present.

    Not all Planet surfaces support 3D life however.

    Good Guys/Girls & Bad Guys/Girls



    Those that help us out of their unconditional love.
    &
    And those that must ‘feed’ of our negativity in order to maintain their Polarity.

    This is the 4D ‘war’ that Ra has referred to.

    The Harvest is so important because it means a further down-step in the Creation Process.

    Think of the density, it’s Divine Purpose and then of it’s corresponding creational abilities.

    I feel very, very humble and thank my guides for their great Sacrifice and Service.
    I send my eternal Gratitude to our Creator.

    Any thoughts?

    Love & Light

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    charlie2012 (Offline)

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    #2
    03-17-2010, 04:02 PM
    I very much agree on all of this except on two things:

    I think that the earth only has hollow patches here and there inhabited by humans, not actually being hollow. I visualize many different societies in patches of the inside of the earth. For instance like in the movie "the Island" where people live underground and are told that the surface is uninhabitable because of a virus that has killed off all humans. It makes them want to stay.

    I also think that membership in the galactic confederation is available to humanity in 3rd density if we were to spiritually evolve to a level where we pose no threat to each other.

    I've been trying to astral project for a while now and will check out the earths inner planes when i succeed Wink

    Love & Light!

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    Questioner (Offline)

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    #3
    03-17-2010, 06:48 PM
    I didn't see a clear definition of "inner planes." My guess was that it meant some kind of spiritual experience which is invisible to everyday 3D dwellers. They attempt to influence 3D through what, to us, seem metaphysical activities. They offer thoughts, emotions, impressions masked as our own. In this way they try to try to sway us away from what, in their opinion, is mistaken use of our free will, by having us substitute their plans for ours. Perhaps these are St. Paul's "principalities and powers."

    If we take the term Satan or satanic to symbolize the ultimate of STS, then I think this excerpt is compatible with what Ra was getting at: http://girardianlectionary.net/res/iss_c..._95-98.htm On the "good guys" side, they might be just as manipulative, using people as unwitting chess pieces, but in a supposed game of benefiting humanity.

    I think that Ra's use of the terms "prejudices," "convinced they must defend" and "see it as their business" implies that from Ra's higher point of view, these spiritual vigilantes are misguided in their crusades... on both sides. I take it that Ra would advocate a greater respect for free will than merely using 3D prejudices to guide 4D capabilities. The 4D capabilities would be better used, Ra's suggesting, in some new, more meaningful way than rehashing the same old attitudes with more powerful tools.

    The "vigilante" locations around the solar system may not have anything we could observe with 3D science. Just as dogs listening to our conversations would not be able to sniff at the Internet, nor dig under a TV set to discover the transmitter on the mountaintop.
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    Ashim (Offline)

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    03-18-2010, 01:19 AM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2010, 11:55 AM by Ashim.)
    (03-17-2010, 04:02 PM)charlie2012 Wrote: I very much agree on all of this except on two things:

    I think that the earth only has hollow patches here and there inhabited by humans, not actually being hollow. I visualize many different societies in patches of the inside of the earth. For instance like in the movie "the Island" where people live underground and are told that the surface is uninhabitable because of a virus that has killed off all humans. It makes them want to stay.

    I also think that membership in the galactic confederation is available to humanity in 3rd density if we were to spiritually evolve to a level where we pose no threat to each other.



    Love & Light!

    Yes that sounds right. Hollow, but chambered. Based on concentric rings. This allows for the sub-division of the Octave. There are many layers. Those of higher density may traverse these 'worlds' as they desire, for the good of all.

    On reflection the earth as 3D school has total free will. This is rare. Maybe a 3D civilization could become members but then there would be a restriction of free will for that planet.

    Love & Light

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-18-2010, 10:32 AM
    Ashim, as usual your impressions resonate with me. I have seen some of my guides come up from the earth instead of appearing out of thin air (like the Archangels do).

    fairyfarmgirl

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    #6
    03-18-2010, 10:59 AM
    (03-18-2010, 10:32 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Ashim, as usual your impressions resonate with me. I have seen some of my guides come up from the earth instead of appearing out of thin air (like the Archangels do).

    fairyfarmgirl

    I've never seen a higher density being materialize outside of me. Though I get fairly strong thought impressions and feelings as if one were touching my shoulder or such. The familiar feeling of being watched or someone standing behind you.

    So I've not experienced what you have. It must be startling to have one materialize like that. I have asked to see my guide in this form, but it has not yet come to pass.

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-18-2010, 12:18 PM
    The materialization is proceeded with hearing my name called and a celestial tone that sounds like a crystal bowl/bell ringing and a general feeling of wonder, joy, awe, and thank goodness you are here feeling--- LOVE.

    I have felt them touch my shoulder and carress my cheek as well. I have to be in the right space at the right time when I am called for them to materialize... and then there is the times when I am driving... LOL

    I have a whole level of Sacred Weirdness in my life... LOL

    fairyfarmgirl

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    Steppingfeet (Offline)

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    #8
    03-18-2010, 08:16 PM
    (03-17-2010, 06:48 PM)Questioner Wrote: I think that Ra's use of the terms "prejudices," "convinced they must defend" and "see it as their business" implies that from Ra's higher point of view, these spiritual vigilantes are misguided in their crusades...

    Hey Questioner,

    Ashim's quote came from the Q'uo channeling of http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0315.aspx. Ra was not the source.

    L/L, GLB

    PS: It occurs to me that in my forums activity today this is the third time I've addressed you. Not really intentional, just the way things have worked out today. : )

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi

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    Truth_and_Love (Offline)

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    #9
    06-11-2010, 05:07 PM
    Ashim thanks for sharing.

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    Richard (Offline)

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    06-15-2010, 10:15 AM
    My feeling is that the earth isn’t physically hollow. But rather that the inner realms are out of phase with our reality. A dimensional pocket or even another dimension that is linked with our own. Don’t know why I believe this…but it just feels right to me.

    Maybe the doorway or a thinning…some kind of access between the universes is underground. Could be that’s where mythology of an underground elder race comes from. But I don’t get the feeling of underground worlds.

    Richard

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    07-12-2010, 04:51 PM
    Are you saying by this that if we're not living in the inner planes that we're not ready for graduation to 4D?

    Ashim Wrote:Entities being ready for graduation to 4th density at the end of their last cycle decided (in loving Service) to return to an incarnation in 3D . They reside on the inner planes of the 3D Planet.

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    LsavedSmeD (Offline)

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    07-13-2010, 12:58 PM
    (03-18-2010, 01:19 AM)Ashim Wrote:
    (03-17-2010, 04:02 PM)charlie2012 Wrote: I very much agree on all of this except on two things:

    I think that the earth only has hollow patches here and there inhabited by humans, not actually being hollow. I visualize many different societies in patches of the inside of the earth. For instance like in the movie "the Island" where people live underground and are told that the surface is uninhabitable because of a virus that has killed off all humans. It makes them want to stay.

    I also think that membership in the galactic confederation is available to humanity in 3rd density if we were to spiritually evolve to a level where we pose no threat to each other.



    Love & Light!

    Yes that sounds right. Hollow, but chambered. Based on concentric rings. This allows for the sub-division of the Octave. There are many layers. Those of higher density may traverse these 'worlds' as they desire, for the good of all.

    On reflection the earth as 3D school has total free will. This is rare. Maybe a 3D civilization could become members but then there would be a restriction of free will for that planet.

    Love & Light

    Think of a honey-comb.

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