05-09-2015, 04:51 PM
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05-09-2015, 04:54 PM
05-09-2015, 04:57 PM
(05-09-2015, 04:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(05-09-2015, 04:51 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-09-2015, 04:05 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What if we want to explode? I also would not be eating anything from this plane if I reach the spiritual level. If it makes me explode, well that'd be something interesting. I care not much about my life anyway.
05-09-2015, 05:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-09-2015, 05:22 PM by AnthroHeart.)
(05-09-2015, 04:57 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-09-2015, 04:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(05-09-2015, 04:51 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-09-2015, 04:05 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: What if we want to explode? I'm sad to hear that about another. But my life is just a mist. I am here for a moment and then I am gone, and it doesn't bother me in the least. But I don't have a death wish, or maybe I do. I try so hard to love all, even myself.
05-09-2015, 05:47 PM
(05-09-2015, 05:16 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm sad to hear that about another. But my life is just a mist. I am here for a moment and then I am gone, and it doesn't bother me in the least. But I don't have a death wish, or maybe I do. I try so hard to love all, even myself. Wel I don't have a death wish. I simply don't fear death as it is inevitable to begin with.
05-10-2015, 04:14 AM
When I joined this membership I didn't have a complete idea of what this forum would be like... but I did expect that STO participants on Bring4th would agree there should be no cruelty in the treatment of creatures killed for human consumption.
Because what does it say about us - as we discuss and learn/teach and aspire to STO polarity, if we don't ensure sentient, independent life forms (plants included) at least have the highest quality life and most stress free and painless death? "It is more important to prevent animal suffering, rather than sit to contemplate the evils of the universe praying in the company of priests." ~ Buddha I don't wish to argue with anyone about this... (I'm not well at the moment and can't process the stress of that...) and I don't want to point fingers or seem accusatory... I just want to say that to evolve, to polarise positively, we need to be REAL about what we are allowing to be done to animals (and humans, plants, the environment, the earth, and the oceans). If you watch film footage of animal cruelty, abattoir situations and farming practices - the only way you can continue eating animals farmed by those methods is by becoming (psychologically) disassociative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociatio...chology%29 - ('disassociating' is what caring, empathic people who see that footage (or experience a slaughter house first hand) and continue to eat meat, are doing). If you can witness that intensity of fear and pain, and not fall back 'asleep', you either become vegan/vegetarian or make your very best efforts to eat *humanely farmed/killed animals from then on. (*with an exacting criteria for this). (NB: Monica, I've read pages and pages of your thoughts about this, and want you to know that as much as I respect your commitment, I can't argue this specific ("humane" farming) with you. My opinion is we have to start somewhere with people who so strongly desire to eat animal flesh.) Finding animal produce that meets these humane criteria is very difficult; but it's SO worth it to bring reduction of pain and fear in this world. Our stomachs, our food addictions, our emotional needs (met by food), speak VERY STRONGLY, very loudly, demandingly - that's the nature of hunger/food addiction/need for nutrition (etc)...(and I feel is a big reason that so many threads are available on this topic on Bring4th, but with so little conversion to vegetarianism).... - but it's surely a major positive polarising to continue to negotiate with our stomachs demands and animal rights... to find practical ways that each of us are individually able to achieve reduction in cruelty... even small actions help.... every small effort counts... "Success is cumulative. No one wakes up successful. It takes hard work behind the scenes where no one else can see. It starts when you set yourself goals, you make sure you do something small everyday." ~ Myuran Sukuraman because: "Suffering is suffering. It is always ugly. It is always unwelcome. It always needs to be stopped. There are no exceptions. A person with the capacity but not the inclination to cease suffering is morally incomplete." ~ Mirko Bagaric Wouldn't it be good to start a thread to share our efforts to make kinder more STO food choices? So we can encourage each other to keep looking for or creating loving alternatives in food production? I'll start by sharing that I had black coffee today (which was ikky!)... but I appreciate the energy it gave me to write this post and that I'm going to look at sourcing milk directly from an organic farmer (I live in rural/coastal dairy country) who I can visit to see if s/he has happy cows... if cows not happy... I'm going to slowly go dairy free Love to All ^j^
05-10-2015, 04:29 AM
Thread started if anyone is interested
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10849 love from Splash
05-11-2015, 03:15 PM
Not getting involved with one of those kinds of threads again, I've already exhaustively expressed myself on the matter.
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