06-03-2015, 02:13 PM
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06-03-2015, 02:13 PM
For the pronounciation there are videos on youtube.
06-03-2015, 04:23 PM
(06-03-2015, 02:08 PM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: I feel my curiosity is satiated.~ This is a Golden Dawn ritual and there are excellent writings by Israel Regardie on all of its forms, but I can assist you with what I know from that material. Keep in mind that in Hebrew the vowels are often not included as they do not have them in the alphabet, they are added to consonance as particular markings in the lettering. Some texts have them, others do not, as such as you would have to know the language orally to understand it. YHWH = (Yode-heh-vav-heh) The Tetragrammaton and the high name of God or the Creator, there is a tradition in the Golden Dawn for always invoking the highest first, whereas in yoga one works from the lowest to the highest. The correspondences in this name alone are vast so I won't elucidate them here. ADNI = Adonai (Ah-doh-nye) One of the names of God meaning "Lord" or "Master" and represents the Creator as the highest good. AHIH = Eheieh (Eh-hye-yahy) This is another name of God which means "I AM". You can see that each forms brings the light down from a higher level to a lower. YHWH being the ineffable, ADNI being the highest Light and AHIH representing the individualized Light. AGLA = (Ah-gah-lah) This is a notariqon or Qabbalistic acronym which I am actually only just becoming more familiar with. (I am actually studying and learning the LBRP myself right now, so this is useful to me.) It means "Atah Gibor Le-Olam Adonai" which translates roughly as "You, O Lord, are mighty forever." I actually take this to mean to create and connect with the time/space functions, the elements and the extents of the created universe in general. The names are "vibrated" in to the pentagrams you draw when facing each direction, usually drawing the pentagrams with a dagger traditionally. To draw the pentagrams you can use your own body to achieve the correct proportions, starting at the left hip (which is where you always begin to do a banishing pentagram), up to the top of your head, down to the right hip, up to the left shoulder, across to the right shoulder and back down to the left hip. Once the pentagram is formed you then stab the dagger in to the center of the pentagram. As you thrust you vibrate (intone) the corresponding name and visualize energy filling the pentagram and it igniting in to a brilliant blue-white flame, empowered by the name. An important thing is to keep your hand extended the whole time, do not drop it in between pentagrams because as you turn to face each direction what you will do is visualize that you are connecting a thread or circle of energy between all of the centers of the pentagrams which when you are done will surround you as a protective circle. Then, when you get back to the East, you can pull your hand back, although I prefer to hold the dagger in front of my heart. There you will invoke and visualize the angels, being sure to really try and put detail and clarity in to seeing the angels as powerful protective figures. The angels represent the forces which stabilize the elements and maintain the balances of the directions in time and space. So you have: RAPHAEL = (Raff-ay-el) Air - East - Angel of Healing, Clarity of Mind and Breath, Communicator MICHAEL = (Mih-kay-el) Fire - South - Right Hand of God, Commander of the Lord's Host, Angel of the Sacred Flame and the Sun GABRIEL = (Gab-ree-el) Water - West - Divine Dreamer, Depths of the Emotions and Unconscious, Angel of the Moon URIEL = (Yer-ee-el) Earth - North - Angel of the Elements, Protector and Guardian of Nature, Nurturer and Grower Note that there are different versions all over the place, for example Auriel and Uriel are interchangeable. In the Cicero's annotated version of Regardie's The Middle Pillar they actually include greek, gaelic, egyptian and other versions of the ritual as well. The purpose of these is to balance the elements of one's being all together under the divine names of God from the highest to the lowest. These thought-forms act as guardians of the aura which help one to stabilize and balance catalyst that is being received as well as helps to put one 'in the proper configuration between microcosm and macrocosm'. It also functions to clear, purify and consecrate your space so that only positive energy can work there. The last bit is one of the simplest but is actually one of my favorites now that I have gotten to know it. My preferred invocation is: Around me shines the Pentagram, within me shines the Six-Ray Pointed Star! The Pentagram represents the complete process of man/woman and his/her evolution and so represents the state and experience of this experience. It also corresponds to the five elements, the normal four with the additional spirit as the fifth, and thus represents the Creation as a whole with the Creator crowing and guiding the elements. This is one reason the inverted pentagram is seen as negative because it represents the dominance of the elements over spirit. It can also be seen to represent YHShWH which is the Pentagrammaton that is the Tetragrammaton with the fifth hidden element revealed. This name Yahshuah is considered by occultists to be the Hebrew name of Jesus, and so the pentagram also represents the potential inherent in man/woman for universal love and understanding, the capacity to make contact with the divine within. It represents the ultimate potential of human consciousness. The Hexagram, Star of David or Six-Pointed Star represents the completion of that potential, the emergence of the divine genius and the higher self. It represents the individual as embodied in their higher self and the achievement of union with that self, achieving wholeness. In short it represents the goal of the Great Work, the ultimately endless endeavor to know and be the self. This realized is equivalent with the Philosopher's Stone, the Golden Consciousness, the state of the Christ and the Buddha. To be fully realized is what the six-ray pointed star represents. That being said, when you say these, you will basically first intensify and empower the visualization of the pentagrams and angels flaming around you with immense power. Then you will visualize a hexagram either behind you or within you (I prefer within), flaming and connecting all those outer powers to the empowerment of your inner self, the divine genius and God within.
In the teachings of Israel Regardie and the Golden Dawn (who designed the LBRP) it is actually suggested that the Qabbalistic Cross ritual be performed before and after the LBRP because it helps to integrate and ground the ritual in to your aura or the 'sphere of sensation' as they call it.
In otherwords, if you imagine water cutting out a huge canyon over many years. Rituals act like that as well in that over time as you do them they will become "impressed" in your aura and basically become passively always active and occurring. Thus you are actually training your energy to work with a particular type of intelligent energy and patterning which will aid you in accessing more of your unconscious self.
06-04-2015, 11:56 AM
Tan, you've already helped a few people out. Let's keep going.
Some questions: Tan.Rar Wrote:The names are "vibrated" in to the pentagrams you draw when facing each direction, usually drawing the pentagrams with a dagger traditionally. To draw the pentagrams you can use your own body to achieve the correct proportions, starting at the left hip (which is where you always begin to do a banishing pentagram), up to the top of your head, down to the right hip, up to the left shoulder, across to the right shoulder and back down to the left hip. Once the pentagram is formed you then stab the dagger in to the center of the pentagram. As you thrust you vibrate (intone) the corresponding name and visualize energy filling the pentagram and it igniting in to a brilliant blue-white flame, empowered by the name Let's start with the bolded. It's my understanding a dagger is an ornament of Wisdom in a sense (unless a Dagger is differentiated from The Sword) capable of use in both white and black magic intent orientations I imagine? I'm going to ask a potentially stupid question. A Dagger is a 1D entity as my understanding goes. So I imagine this bridges over to other 1D entities like day, Crystals. So I have this 4inch palm sized Amethyst Orb. Would it be a viable substitute to hold instead of a Dagger? Instead of stabbing the pentagram, can I Imbue it with the Orb (charged prior to the ritual in meditation)? Next question. I understand the concept of forming the Pentagram, is starting at the left hip in banishing rituals because you start with a Right Moving/Hand/ Positive/Outwards motion? Is the moving from the Left to the Right indicative of the style of pentagram in terms of metaphysically effecting the area? Does starting at the Right Hip and moving to the left imply a sort of pulling in type of ritual or invoking rather than a pushing away type of banishing ritual as far the pentagram goes? If one alters the formation of the pentagram into something more intricate like a Septagram does it have noticeable deteriorating effects or if done properly would it provide a different effect? Let's look at it this way, what makes the Magic. What is the metaphysics going on? Can you explain any of this? If I were to learn enough about all of these types of 'Arts' I'll call them, could I eventually make my own rituals performing my own specific workings?
The LBRP is a great ritual because it covers within it all the basics of magick. I heard that you can use it with the middle pillar and the rose cross to create a fairly powerful ritual practice.
Tanner, have you heard about rotations of the ritual? When you continually do it over and over? Redrawing the pentagrams or re-visualizing them? (06-04-2015, 11:56 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: Tan, you've already helped a few people out. Let's keep going. Yes, the dagger is the nearly the same as the sword, not exactly identical but in this function they are the same. They associate with Wisdom symbolically, but more directly with the Will. The use of the dagger is the direct use of the Will. The purpose of the dagger isn't about what density it is, that has nothing to do with it, it has to do with its shape, form and symbolic function. It has to do with the conceptual purpose of the dagger. You can see it that the thrust is to represent the "thrust of the will", the forward intention of the will. It seems to me you want to avoid the dagger because perhaps it make you uncomfortable with its functions, but that could perhaps be a mental inhibition you have. I would say that no, using an orb would change the formula. I'm not saying it wouldn't ultimately perhaps be effective, but the orb and the dagger have completely different symbolic functions and if you are only just starting to work with this... I would like to give you the same advice that was given to me: don't try to be an adept before you have been a neophyte. Learn the basics and fundamentals before trying to get fancy and make things more advanced or 'unique'. If you don't understand the basic formulae then making changes to it on a whim is only going to complicate things further. My second advice is to study symbols, study them as deeply and as far as you can. Symbols are one of the most dominant aspects of magic. It's pretty hard to become familiar with the elements of ritual magic unless you have some understanding of symbols. I think this is maybe where you might have some difficulty because you don't quite seem to get yet that the significance of all of the different aspects are symbolic in correlation to connect together the many parts of the psyche and will. All of this information is widely available in Golden Dawn material so understand that what I'm giving you is probably not the most efficient way to study this information. These two charts should explain the concept of the pentagrams. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/image...aFOtT1nmGy http://www.seawitchartist.com/images/pen...arters.jpg The Pentagram used in the Banishing ritual is the Earth banishing pentagram because it is beginning with the body and ending with the body. Each of the elements is usually corresponded with particular parts of the being. You could also see it as corresponding to the Sephiroth on the Tree of Life in that the beginning starts at Victory (Neztach) and ends at Victory, insuring the success of the banishing. Earth - Body Water - Emotions Air - Mind Fire - Will Spirit - Consciousness Again, changing the pentagram in to a septagram or other star shape would change the formula and it may not be effective at all because other shapes have different formulaic functions. This is advanced stuff more for adepts the many types of magical circles and stars. I wouldn't worry about trying to play with that kind of stuff for awhile. The magic is in the configuration between mind, body spirit and the relationship between the conscious and unconscious mind. I would perhaps mention Ra's concept of magic here. Quote:71.15 Questioner: Could you please comment on the accuracy of this statement? I’m going to generally talk about the concept of magic and first define it as the ability to create changes in consciousness at will. Is this an acceptable definition? The magic is that you are creating a pathway or connection to your Unmanifest Self, your Higher Self, and tying them together in to a unified intention. Thus, the magic is the connectivity through love of different elements of the Creator including oneself. (Properly we are the Creator at the center of the web.) This is done to, as it says, achieve a change in consciousness. Understanding that means realizing that when you change consciousness you change reality. Certainly you could eventually make your own rituals. Understand that ceremonial magic, particularly of the Golden Dawn tradition is by no means the only style or practice of magic and one might say that their teachings are somewhat more 'formal' than most other systems of magic you will encounter. By all means you could make a ritual now if you wanted to, but your understanding of it, its effects and the effectiveness of your will would probably all play a major role in whether or not it did anything. The Golden Dawn is a school of magic that teaches most forms of magic, so you'll find a bit of almost every kind of tradition through their works. If you ask me, the most useful tool is study and practice. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. The biggest danger of magic is rushing in to it, which is what almost everyone does. I have only just really started actually practicing rituals this year but I have spent easily the last five to seven years studying constantly. Learning about symbolism, about Qabbalah, about astrology, alchemy, languages and philosophy in as many fields as possible. I made sure I understood as much as possible about the rituals I was doing before even attempting to perform them. I also spend a lot of time working on my own blockages and imbalances, I am always challenging my sense of self and the traits and characteristics I believe myself to have, I take nothing without trial. There is a maxim in magic that apparently is tied to the sphinx. It goes: To Know To Will To Dare To Be Silent These are seen as the attitudes which assist one to be successful in magic. The last one, to be silent, I believe is referring to an occult understanding that there is power in secrets and that one of the ways to insure a successful magical working is to keep it secret. This isn't to deceive others, but I believe goes along with what Ra says about white magicians not taking claim for magical effects. So you ask what the metaphysics are that are going on, but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. You mean you want to know the way the energy moves and travels according to the energy centers? These rituals often use the Sephirothic energy centers rather than the chakras or centers that Ra expounds so if you want a stronger metaphysical understanding of the energy movements I would learn, study and memorize the Tree of Life and its elements. The Tree of Life is probably one of the most dominant symbols in Golden Dawn magic. The purpose of ritual is to configure mind, body and spirit in to a single intent. The reason that these rituals which have already been created are useful is that they are already 'ingrained' in the planetary mind and consciousness. When you do the LBRP properly it will be recognized by the consciousness of the Earth as the same configuration done by any other who has done the ritual properly. Thus, the intent is somewhat already more solid and focused in this ritual, so it is easier to use because it already offers a complete structure. I'm not saying it can't be tweaked slightly to be comfortable (for example my use of "within" for the six-ray star rather than "behind") but the idea is that you don't want to change the fundamental symbolic formula because then you change the configuration and the ritual is no longer the same intent. You can see it that ceremonial magic is the most 'scientific' approach to magic. They believe in the power of repetition and consistency and that the formula of a ritual is like a chemical formula. If you start changing elements and isotopes you are going to change the chemical formula and thus the chemical. Hence, to get the formula right is to do the ritual correctly.
06-04-2015, 03:49 PM
(06-04-2015, 02:10 PM)Matt1 Wrote: The LBRP is a great ritual because it covers within it all the basics of magick. I heard that you can use it with the middle pillar and the rose cross to create a fairly powerful ritual practice. You mean over and over in one session? My understanding is that you should do it in the same place, in the same way, every day if you can. Also yes, my current 'regime' is the combination of the Rose-Cross/Qabbalistic Cross, the LBRP and Middle Pillar. I usually use the Rose-Cross in between the others so I'll start with RC, then do LBRP, then RC again, then Middle Pillar, then RC to close.
06-04-2015, 09:25 PM
I wasn't drawn to ritual work until after years of 'my own stuff' so I think that feeling is not uncommon. I would remind everyone that I am only just beginning my own adventures in ritual magic. I have been practicing other forms of magic for much longer.
06-04-2015, 11:17 PM
Minyatur, I felt exactly the same way until very recently.
Tan, your explanation and reasoning has been extremely invaluable. Next time I perform any of these rituals, I will feel much much more confident due to much improved understanding. Thank you
06-05-2015, 12:00 PM
Tanner out of interest, with Qabalah, since we are on the subject of magic and all. I assume you have learned the Hebrew Aleph Bet, i am in the process of learning it and have come to an interesting point of the different uses of writing the letters. In the Hermetic tradition the book print is used but i find this difficult to reproduce on paper without going to the extent of calligraphy (which i did buy a set of pens and soon discovered that its fairly difficult thing to do) so in turn i have resulted to using the manual print of the words, which is the closes to the book print possible and if any visualization are required to stick to the book print. I found it interesting that the Lurianic Kabbalah makes use of the Cursive rather than the book print. I guess ultimately it doesn't matter as much as the values that are given to the letters but i feel that if the effort is to be made to put them to memory for quick reference and to have a fuller understanding of the Qabalah, it might as well be done correctly.
06-05-2015, 02:02 PM
I believe there is an actual power in the exact shapes of the Hebrew letters and I do believe that is somewhat lost without the precision of say the book print which is closest to Hebrew calligraphy. I actually basically just draw the letters out in as much detail as possible, so far I mostly write it only in large letters, haven't had any reason yet for small lettering. I always use the traditional book print forms for visualization.
However, if I am just 'making notes' and I am not actually forming the letter for magical or meditative purposes then I will just use a stick-figure western sketch of the letters so I know what I'm writing. In Israel Regardie's Golden Dawn writings there is only ever given the book print forms.
06-06-2015, 11:07 AM
(06-04-2015, 09:25 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I wasn't drawn to ritual work until after years of 'my own stuff' so I think that feeling is not uncommon. I would remind everyone that I am only just beginning my own adventures in ritual magic. I have been practicing other forms of magic for much longer. Do you realize how hard it is to find someone who can explain these things in concepts that are less 'magical' and more metaphysical though? Basically linking how the functions operate in regards to vibration, frequency, and energy, or Light Construct (Holographic Construct) or such, instead of 'mystical forces flowing here, powers and resonating forces vibrate here'? It's invaluable information for some who need a more logical or intuitive or intellectual explanation to make sense of things rather than faith in the ritual' operation that you're 'affecting' or 'altering' forces in controlled ways through specific practices being ingrained into existence (or collective consciousness) across generations. Which is still useful information in a general sense of understanding underlying concepts of why such things might work so strongly. By all means, provide your experiences here, this is a great place to do so if you want to give people a decent push. Just use your powers for good though!!! !!
06-06-2015, 01:20 PM
You want an explanation in physics is what you are saying. Basically you don't want magic, you want science. That's totally understandable. I could probably give some resources and explanation but I'd have to look, I don't have these issues. However, I am sure this kind of information exists, there are certainly more science oriented magicians.
06-06-2015, 01:22 PM
We want the frequencies in Hertz.
It's basically a combination of sacred geometry and music/harmonics but the problem with your desire for a physics explanation is the fact that humans have no physical models for how the mind is capable of organizing energy in to thought-forms. That's because scientific thought generally doesn't generally acknowledge the mind can do anything beyond the head.
06-06-2015, 01:38 PM
(06-06-2015, 11:07 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote:(06-04-2015, 09:25 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: I wasn't drawn to ritual work until after years of 'my own stuff' so I think that feeling is not uncommon. I would remind everyone that I am only just beginning my own adventures in ritual magic. I have been practicing other forms of magic for much longer. You're building a bubble or sphere and each vibration of intention is like adding another note to a harmony so you are essentially forming together a particular type of intelligent energy by calling together specific potentials to create a thought-form that is the conduit for the intelligent energy. Each of the names that is vibrated has a certain energetic signature or identity so when you pronounce them what you are doing is calling to the potential intelligence and making it kinetic within your sphere. Hence, the whole process of activating latent intelligence patterns inherent in energy. The pentagrams and angels are Light Constructs, which is like a mirage that forms when the right vibrations have been mixed like a musical chord. These light constructs carry information according to your intent derived from intelligent energy. These constructs thereby become a 'filter' for intelligent energy whereby higher vibration and thus states of consciousness can be arranged or configured. With each filter you more precisely tune your consciousness to the specified intent. Hence, I would say that you could get as intricate as you want but if your intent isn't clear then nothing will come to fruition.
06-06-2015, 01:46 PM
Basically, all the names can be broken down in to base vibrations according to the letters (gematria). Words with the same number for gematria are said to have the same or close to the same vibrational identity. Gematria is the main way of finding out a base identity because all the numbers are referenced to the Tree of Life. Thus, it all comes back to the base 10 Sephiroth which are considered the fundamental vibrations or intelligences. So what you are really doing is mixing and matching these base intelligences in to more complex intelligences. Basically a sort of metaphysical chemistry.
To be honest I desired the same thing as you for a long time, as close to a metaphysical explanation as I could get but after years I received an intuition that told me I needed to understand preliminary experiences before that knowledge would not only be useful to me but also I would have the responsibility.
Maybe the challenge in finding the precise explanations is because you need to develop more capacity in faith? Faith is the core of magic, a belief that what you are doing is effective. Doubt is the great magic-killer.
I have no doubt in magic, never had for a long time. I lack a purpose and goal.
I tried studying the Sephiroth a while ago but wasn't sure what I was supposed to make of it or actually how it is useful to me. Same with geometry, I have a hard time finding it useful in any way to me. I do want to have faith to all can be done without ritual by drawing the power within, but you've been trying to make me doubt that. (06-06-2015, 02:10 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I have no doubt in magic, never had for a long time. I lack a purpose and goal. That's basically a chaos magic belief. I think Ra says it for me though... Quote:74.16 Questioner: I will make an analogy to the loudness of ringing of the telephone in using the ritual as the efficiency of the practitioners using the ritual. Now, I see several things affecting the efficiency of the ritual: first, the desire of the practitioners to serve, their ability to invoke the magical personality, their ability to visualize while performing the ritual, and let me ask you as to the relative importance of those items and how each may be intensified?
06-06-2015, 02:20 PM
I am a Virgo, so maybe that's why the precision of ritual draws me, I do like doing things perfectly and consistently wherever possible.
06-06-2015, 02:24 PM
It really all comes back to vibration. The Sephiroth represent the base vibrations of consciousness. Geometry is music/vibration described according to dimension (take a look at cymatics and you'll understand that).
You might check out Shape Power by Dan Davidson or Sacred Geometry by Robert Lawlor.
06-06-2015, 02:25 PM
How essential is visualization in the mind's eye? I have no ability in that domain.
06-06-2015, 02:26 PM
Again, remember the magic is described as 'creating changes in consciousness according to will' so be sure to measure it all against that concept.
06-06-2015, 02:27 PM
06-06-2015, 02:28 PM
(06-06-2015, 02:27 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:25 PM)Minyatur Wrote: How essential is visualization in the mind's eye? I have no ability in that domain. Nope and I've been trying for a few years now, most people I know think of it as weird except those like me (which are rare).
06-06-2015, 02:30 PM
(06-06-2015, 02:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:27 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:25 PM)Minyatur Wrote: How essential is visualization in the mind's eye? I have no ability in that domain. You know what a red triangle looks like though, right? You could draw one from your mind, yes?
06-06-2015, 02:34 PM
(06-06-2015, 02:30 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:28 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:27 PM)Tan.rar Wrote:(06-06-2015, 02:25 PM)Minyatur Wrote: How essential is visualization in the mind's eye? I have no ability in that domain. I can take a red pen and draw a red triangle on a piece of paper, not within my mind. When I draw I usually erase a lot because I don't have a mental image of what I'm drawing though. My mind works more with abstract formless concepts, hard to explain. (I've tried with a few people)
06-06-2015, 02:34 PM
You are actually not the only person I know like that, so I understand. I honestly don't have strong visual skills either, I navigate mostly through intuition, feeling and sensation with visual being more of a feedback or symbolic information.
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