(10-14-2016, 02:20 PM)octavia Wrote:(10-14-2016, 01:29 PM)Aion Wrote: So, I've noticed that in the discussions on victims and other such situations the focus has often been upon that of the victim themselves and their position in the process of creation, however I would like to bring light that one's own desires are not the only ones in the universe and that we are co-creators so it is possible to become involved with others' desires as well. In the case of the rape victim, it has to be remembered that the rapist also puts out a powerful emotional vibration and is 'creating their reality' in the same way the victim supposedly is.
They might even be just vaguely looking for any victim and so those who already have some sense of victimhood may light up to them, like a predator who smells blood. Amazing how easy we forgive the predator while expecting the victim to rise above.
You raise some striking and salient points! Not everything said here resonated with me however I would like to build upon what did, if that is acceptable.
I emphatically agree that regardless of the theoretical vibrational status of the victim, the one who has been infringed upon, the infringement of free will categorically requires an infringing party. And I think that Anagogy is well aware of this as well. However, I believe we can even go a step further and perhaps propose that no such vibrational status of the victim exists, or if it does, it actually exists posterior to the act of infringement itself, and not as a vibrational match with the entity who seeks to infringe. That vibrational status posterior to the event may be instead understood as trauma.
In this specific sense then, I personally believe that it is far more coherent to psychologically explore the infringing party than it is to psychologically explore the party that has been infringed upon, at least in the context of the concept of he who manifests his own reality. For in my limited understanding, excessive and conscious control is the way of the negative path. In turn, I feel that it is also more coherent to politely request of all entities that they respect the free will of others than it is to suggest that it is only through disharmony/unalignment with one's self that they come to be infringed upon.
In the development of this point, let us consider a quote from Q'uo concerning the anger of other selves:
Quote:[1996.10.06]Carla: I would like to follow up on that. I’ve watched a couple of relationships which were like this. One person refused to communicate and was simply abusive. This can’t help but hurt. Is there any way to defend oneself against being personally hurt by such abuse? Even words really do hurt.
Q'uo: I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. The most effective means by which we have found that one may deal with such a situation is to work internally upon the self for the building of the confidence that one has not truly generated such feeling but that the entity experiencing the anger has the responsibility of generating that anger, for as those known to this group as Ra have mentioned, there is truly no emotionally charged situation. There are only emotionally charged responses, and each entity will respond to each situation in the way that the entity has biased itself in consciousness previously to this incarnation.
Thus, the one experiencing the anger and expressing the anger has the responsibility of dealing with that anger and its causes. The one feeling the anger has the responsibility of dealing with the emotions that come up as a result of experiencing the anger. Thus, if it can be kept in mind and in perspective as to who is responsible for what, it is most helpful, for if the entity that is around another expressing anger takes that anger into the self and feels one way or another, the feelings are this entity’s with which to deal.
I would like to hone in on Q'uo's statement that "..the one experiencing the anger and expressing the anger has the responsibility of dealing with that anger and its causes." From this example then, if another entity comes to me in anger, and infringes upon my free will, it may be of far greater magical use to me to recall that this entity's anger, as well as the consequences of how they have chosen to express that anger, is their very own honor/responsibility to process and deal with. This would then in turn empower me to not in any way blame myself for having been infringed upon.
But seriously, though, all things are vibration at base level, so you can't not be a vibrational match for anything that happens to you.
If you were raped, you were vibrating at a place in space/time where the rape could occur, and you were vibrating at a level where you were unable to defend yourself, while vibrating in a universe where the concept of rape exists.