03-05-2017, 09:27 PM
There's the potential within this thread, of Jade and Glow becoming drained from feeling required to continually reply post by post to male persons who (imo) would do better to go online and undertake their own research, rather than expecting to be answered item by item, issue by issue.
This research needs to be extensive. There is much to be read and learnt.
I think this is especially a valid thing to say when within these persons own thinking there isn't even a basic understanding of patriarchy and it's effect over millennia
- let alone that said patriarchy is the main factor controlling the very ignorance that is shaping these dialogues.
It's not up to women to educate men about sexism and misogyny;
just as it isn't up to an African-American to educate a Caucasian, as to why they experience (most usually - ie: statistically) totally different lives due to their skin colour.
It felt very uncomfortable for me when Aboriginal Australians 'schooled' me about my privilege as a middle class white Australian, and it took me quite a while to realise I didn't need to feel personally attacked -but just recognise the issue and then offer to become an ally.
Same for men , particularly white men. Just listen, learn, "suck it up".. realise you're also abused by patriarchy, (in different ways) and become an ally.
Feminism is about EQUALITY. Don't quibble about the smaller factions within it - don't be diverted by extremism in any form. it's in all 'movements'.
Just focus on LOVE, respect and EQUALITY.
And LISTEN.
This research needs to be extensive. There is much to be read and learnt.
I think this is especially a valid thing to say when within these persons own thinking there isn't even a basic understanding of patriarchy and it's effect over millennia
- let alone that said patriarchy is the main factor controlling the very ignorance that is shaping these dialogues.
It's not up to women to educate men about sexism and misogyny;
just as it isn't up to an African-American to educate a Caucasian, as to why they experience (most usually - ie: statistically) totally different lives due to their skin colour.
It felt very uncomfortable for me when Aboriginal Australians 'schooled' me about my privilege as a middle class white Australian, and it took me quite a while to realise I didn't need to feel personally attacked -but just recognise the issue and then offer to become an ally.
Same for men , particularly white men. Just listen, learn, "suck it up".. realise you're also abused by patriarchy, (in different ways) and become an ally.
Feminism is about EQUALITY. Don't quibble about the smaller factions within it - don't be diverted by extremism in any form. it's in all 'movements'.
Just focus on LOVE, respect and EQUALITY.
And LISTEN.