03-11-2017, 08:20 AM
I would like to offer my, different, view on this.
I have to admit i am biased in this, and the observation may be subjective, maybe no one else can agree, and possibly i am exageterating a little.
That "advanced philosophical" caught my eye and i do not agree on this, in fact my Impression from the very beginning on this was rather different:
I think the misperceiption is that this is "highly advanved", implying we are "highly advanced".
To a degree, this is true, wie are discussing topics with a spiritual background that is, to put it one way, highly advanced compared to what the average human being experiences.
The other side is, the "know yourself" part, or i would call it "emotional maturity".
There is no judgement intended, but an observation.
I perceive many here, and i do nor exclude myself, als emotionally very immature.
We MIGHT like to view us as highly conscious people, but i think this is not really true.
Being conscious to me means, being very present, being really in the moment, being highly AWARE of what is going on INSIDE of us.
To get to that point, it is not enough to discuss on an intellectual level, this is rather an obstacle in my opinion.
It would ne necessary to observe oneself on an EMOTIONAL level, to heal what is coming up, to gain and develop enough awareness that one can stay present when Heavy emotions arise.
This is not an overnight process, but a matter of DECADES Even with highly accelerated growth!
But tend to believe we are "already there".
I found this thread especially interesting in that regard.
There has been shown a lots of pain, not openly expressed but visible or perceivable, with no awareness of the pain obviously.
And interesting enough those people usually arme on the intellectual, abstract and, in my opinion, controlled side of life.
I also have another observation regarding my own posts on this forum:
as long as i write more intellectual stuff, people will relate to it.
As soon as i post something real personal, like past painful experiences or more recent but emotional or painful stuff, there is little to no resonance.
No relating to that, a total lack of compassion, and this causes me quite some sadness!
The only explanation i have at the moment would be, that maybe many don't really want to deal with that stuff.
There might also be other reasons, a misperceiption on my behalf, but when i look at 30 or 40 posts of Mine that were really personal, i wonder, why they arme being so ignored.
This is not meant to invalidate your post, NightOwl, but i think we are more at the beginning of our Journey, rather than highly advanced (i know your context was different).
And so, i almost feel drawn to make a poll on "how much do you think you know yourself" and i'm afraid that The result would probably tend towards way over 50 percent while my perceiption would be CONSIDERABLY lower.
As i said, i do not exclude myself here.
I have to admit i am biased in this, and the observation may be subjective, maybe no one else can agree, and possibly i am exageterating a little.
That "advanced philosophical" caught my eye and i do not agree on this, in fact my Impression from the very beginning on this was rather different:
I think the misperceiption is that this is "highly advanved", implying we are "highly advanced".
To a degree, this is true, wie are discussing topics with a spiritual background that is, to put it one way, highly advanced compared to what the average human being experiences.
The other side is, the "know yourself" part, or i would call it "emotional maturity".
There is no judgement intended, but an observation.
I perceive many here, and i do nor exclude myself, als emotionally very immature.
We MIGHT like to view us as highly conscious people, but i think this is not really true.
Being conscious to me means, being very present, being really in the moment, being highly AWARE of what is going on INSIDE of us.
To get to that point, it is not enough to discuss on an intellectual level, this is rather an obstacle in my opinion.
It would ne necessary to observe oneself on an EMOTIONAL level, to heal what is coming up, to gain and develop enough awareness that one can stay present when Heavy emotions arise.
This is not an overnight process, but a matter of DECADES Even with highly accelerated growth!
But tend to believe we are "already there".
I found this thread especially interesting in that regard.
There has been shown a lots of pain, not openly expressed but visible or perceivable, with no awareness of the pain obviously.
And interesting enough those people usually arme on the intellectual, abstract and, in my opinion, controlled side of life.
I also have another observation regarding my own posts on this forum:
as long as i write more intellectual stuff, people will relate to it.
As soon as i post something real personal, like past painful experiences or more recent but emotional or painful stuff, there is little to no resonance.
No relating to that, a total lack of compassion, and this causes me quite some sadness!
The only explanation i have at the moment would be, that maybe many don't really want to deal with that stuff.
There might also be other reasons, a misperceiption on my behalf, but when i look at 30 or 40 posts of Mine that were really personal, i wonder, why they arme being so ignored.
This is not meant to invalidate your post, NightOwl, but i think we are more at the beginning of our Journey, rather than highly advanced (i know your context was different).
And so, i almost feel drawn to make a poll on "how much do you think you know yourself" and i'm afraid that The result would probably tend towards way over 50 percent while my perceiption would be CONSIDERABLY lower.
As i said, i do not exclude myself here.