(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: Diana, I think we are very different, you and I. The way I experienced your post, is I was telling a story which happened to me, and you were going "hush-hush, none of that please". That's control in my view, control which came from 'you'.
While I disagree that I was telling you to "hush-hush," fair enough. My motivation was quite different. But I can see how you would have taken it that way from your point of view.
(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: Do you sit around a fire with people, and the stories go from one to the other, and say "oooh no-no please, don't tell that story! Next!" Can you see how that's dismissive? I have no desire to control you, and no desire to "make you nice". I'm actually surprised when you say things like that, when you read that in my posts, like the other day when you said "you don't have that much power over me"... it left me a little perplexed.
Once again, I think I haven't been clear in my posts. I am a bit Spock-like. I will take these things into consideration, but it doesn't change the essence of what I've said.
As far as the campfire, I would enjoy any story except any that involved extreme suffering.
(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: I also think you underestimate people's intelligence, as if such a story would suddenly swing them against animals, or engender feelings of separation between them and animals... the people here have lived on planet earth, they have all heard stories of dangerous dogs, or experienced it themselves. They are not of such limited intellect that they would now colour the entire animal kingdom with such a story.
Here I quite disagree. I do not underestimate anyone's intelligence. I think it is you who expects people to understand your meaning without explaining it. The burden is on you (or me) to be clear when speaking, writing, or otherwise communicating. The burden IS NOT on the reader to figure it out. I say this from a business standpoint as well, dealing with clients for many years. If I sent a client an email where they had to interpret or figure out what I was saying, it would confuse things at the least. If I take the time to be really clear, and make it easy for them to understand me, it's a win-win.
(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: I don't share in your despair over the conditions we currently have here on earth (a lot of your posts have that vibe), because I have learned a long time ago that such an outlook doesn't serve me well, or anyone else for that matter. I prefer to have a light heart, to laugh, to see the humour in it all.
And here you are judging me and you have no way of knowing me other than words on a screen. I am not in despair. I am just straightforward.
We discuss very serious subjects here. Is it inappropriate to be serious here?
Let me ask you something, did you laugh when reading Jade's experience with the lambs going to slaughter? Was there humor in it?
(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: These days we laugh about how Rocky used to run through windows as if there was nothing in his path, it was so bizarre. My dad has never replaced that many windows. We laugh because it makes us a little lighter to choose to see the humour and the lightness in a situation that was out of our control, and fraught with trauma and tears.
It would have been nice if you had 1) explained why you told that story, or 2) added the bits above. You can review your writing and see it objectively or not, and I don't mean to say you will discover I am right or anything like that. But here you have feedback and an opportunity.
(07-31-2017, 04:01 AM)YinYang Wrote: As for the domestication of dogs and cats, I think A LOT more light has come from it than dark. Pets have a wonderful and healing effect on people. They lighten people's loneliness who are living alone, they are people's friends and companions. There's a reason we call a dog "man's best friend". You see animals in captivity, I see joy, laughter, humour and companionship. Different perspectives I suppose.
I wasn't talking about pets. Do you see joy, laughter, humor, and companionship in any of the animal situations I did mention? Perhaps someone might say there is some companionship between the bull and the people who feed it before it's tortured in the bull ring, but to me there is no humor in that. I am aware that there are benefits to animals who are loved by humans.