Is kundalini awakening a requisit to Harvest?
10-15-2017, 12:08 AM,
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Is kundalini at green ray something we feel? Can we be sure about it? And once it reaches green ray, does it stay there?

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10-15-2017, 07:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-15-2017, 07:30 PM by Coordinate_Apotheosis. Edit Reason: 777 )
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(10-15-2017, 12:08 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:  Is kundalini at green ray something we feel? Can we be sure about it? And once it reaches green ray, does it stay there?

Some can feel a noticeable difference when they've moved kundalini into green ray for a good amount of time.  Others who are less sensitive will probably not notice it as vividly as others do.

We can't be sure about any of this if you go by scientific measurements, this is ultimately a subjective 'science' so-to-speak, so certainty is in the mind of the observer as belief, how you come about to believe in that belief is subjective.  Hence why so many struggle to substantiate even subjectively if these experiences are truly real or something else like bias confirmation or accidental subconscious self programming.

It is my experience that kundalini is like a rising and falling thermometer.  It typically rises, and then inevitably falls, and there is a common point where this rising and falling centers around, usually orange or yellow ray, with rises into green, then blue, then potentially indigo.
For certain without a question or doubt in my mind, once Kundalini enters indigo ray for a prolonged amount of time, changes occur to the entire personality of the incarnated being (their evolution speeds up??) and the kundalini now working with a new set of parameters falls inevitably back into the lower triad.  I think only those with the proper approaches to indigo ray work can manage kundalini to stay up in it despite changes in their personality (which a CIA employee coined 'Kundalini Psychosis').

So no, it does not stay there if one is attempting higher levels of work such as Adept Work, otherwise if a person can maintain the energies of Unconditional Love radiation (which I believe involves kundalini wavering among the Green and Blue rays) without attempting higher work, this will probably allow one prolonged green ray level kundalini placement.  However, as catalyst comes and new events grace an entity, there is always the potential for an instant drop to red ray should the entity first respond with those energies.

(10-14-2017, 06:59 PM)Infinite Wrote:  Thanks for all answers. Reading the material, I found this excerpt:



Quote:11.8 Questioner: Is there anyone in our history that is commonly known who went to a fourth-density self-service or negative type planet or who will go there?

Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle.

This means that penetration in the eighth or intelligent infinity level  = become harvestable or ascension (independent of the Harvest).

In this topic was discussed that to penetrate in the in the eighth or intelligent infinity level it's necessary kundalini awakening. Anyone have your vision and the my now is that is necessary the kundalini to become harvestable.

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I have three questions now:

I - Is there difference between open the gateway to Intelligent Infinity and penetrate in the in the eighth or intelligent infinity?

II - Depending of the answer to the first question, the reports of perception the unity of All in meditation NOT indicates that the entity achived the ascension, but just open the gateway to  intelligent infinity right? Because I don't think that in all reports of samadhi for example, the entity become harvestable or capable of ascend. I see relationship with the Seven Initiations and possibly, open the gateway is the first initiation and the penetration is the last.

III - To become 51% STO don't need the penetration in the in the eighth or intelligent infinity right? It's just a requirement to be harvested in the end of the cycle or Harvest.

What you think about it?

I would like to point out that quote is in relation to negative polarity entities becoming harvested.  If we are discussing the mechanics of a positive harvest relationship, that quote may be misleading as to the requirements to become harvested as a positive polarity being.

To answer your further questions:

I: Opening the Gateway to Intelligent Infinity is equated to basically, from Indigo Ray kundalini levels, the user attains a proper vibration that causes the Violet Ray to 'open like a gateway' where the kundalini of the user can then move into violet ray then, with further attempts to penetrate the above white ray chakra, if able to do so can contact intelligent infinity (supposedly directly through the physical incarnation, not sure about this though.)  So there is a difference.

II: This question is unintelligible to me, so I will try to respond with what I believe is your question.  Assuming you are asking if simply experiencing the opening of the Gateway (Violet Ray) is enough to ascend the octave, my answer is no, it is not enough, you must move further and penetrate the eighth chakra above the violet ray (the White Chakra), which is equated to penetrating into intelligent infinity.

III: This is correct.  Ra's quote you used in this post I quoted was in relation to sts polarity mechanics.  However, there does seem to be some mechanism of ascending the MAJORITY OF THE OCTAVE that seems to be linked with this kundalini penetrating the eighth chakra of intelligent infinity.  I think it becomes a judgment call by the user of that kundalini, they can choose to become harvested is the typical reward (or chose not to be harvested), but for some who seem to do it to a certain high level degree, they seem to have access to skip the majority of the Octave (such as in the book 'The Aaron, Q'uo Dialogues') and ascend right into 7D.

(10-14-2017, 11:58 PM)Infinite Wrote:  This excerpt can help to respond my third question:



Quote:50.8 Questioner: Thank you. How does the ability to hold visual images in mind allow the adept to do polarization in consciousness without external action?

Ra: I am Ra. This is not a simple query, for the adept is one which will go beyond the green ray which signals entry into harvestability. The adept will not simply be tapping into intelligent energy as a means of readiness for harvest but tapping into both intelligent energy and intelligent infinity for the purpose of transmuting planetary harvestability and consciousness.

The means of this working lie within. The key is first, silence, and secondly, singleness of thought. Thusly a visualization which can be held steady to the inward eye for several of your minutes, as you measure time, will signal the adept’s increase in singleness of thought. This singleness of thought then can be used by the positive adept to work in group ritual visualizations for the raising of positive energy, by negative adepts for the increase in personal power.

This quote further points out the differentiation between what is Intelligent Infinity and what is Intelligent Energy.  An Adept is one who will attempt Work in Consciousness from a physical incarnated body (no easy task it seems), this requires energies of the Indigo Ray.  It is supplemental and optional work, the main 'work' of the typical positive incarnation is to move kundalini into green ray and hold it there enough so to signal the violet ray aspect of the entity that it is ready to be harvested according to the already setup system.  That is the main point, all energy work above green is optional.  You're not asked as a typical person whom is trying to become harvested to do Work in Consciousness, you're only asked to, at the best of your ability to do so properly, provide unconditional love to others.

I might be wrong here, but it's my understanding that Intelligent Energy is what is sent from the White Ray above the Violet Ray down into the Violet Ray and into the Indigo Ray to be consciously worked with by the user.  Making Indigo Ray in my mind (and again I might be wrong here) the center pertaining to usage of Intelligent Energy.  With proper discipline and behavior the Violet Ray will become penetrated which opens the way for one whom continues proper discipline and behavior to penetrate beyond the 7th Chakra into the 8th Chakra.

The idea being that 6th Chakra, Indigo Ray, is linked to usage of Intelligent Energy.  7th Chakra, Violet Ray, being that gateway which discerns whether the entity is using Intelligent Energy properly, and opens if this is true, and with proper further behavior moves through Violet Ray towards the 8th Chakra, White Ray, being that energy center (if you wish to call it such) linked to usage of Intelligent Infinity.

So to answer your third question again, yes, the sto polarity only needs to do two things:
Move Kundalini up into Green Ray and be able to maintain it there for a time.
Manage to do this with at least 50% of all interactions with others (and I assume the self too.)

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10-16-2017, 03:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-16-2017, 03:47 PM by anagogy.)
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(10-14-2017, 06:59 PM)Infinite Wrote:  I have three questions now:

I - Is there difference between open the gateway to Intelligent Infinity and penetrate in the in the eighth or intelligent infinity?

Opening the gateway is fully opening or unblocking the indigo center. You can 'crack open the door a little' without fully opening the gateway. The gateway is not fully unblocked until the violet ray is penetrated consciously. Experiences of playing with the gateway will cause indigo expressions, or manifestations of intelligent energy, because this is the intelligent energy level.

(10-14-2017, 06:59 PM)Infinite Wrote:  II - Depending of the answer to the first question, the reports of perception the unity of All in meditation NOT indicates that the entity achived the ascension, but just open the gateway to  intelligent infinity right? Because I don't think that in all reports of samadhi for example, the entity become harvestable or capable of ascend. I see relationship with the Seven Initiations and possibly, open the gateway is the first initiation and the penetration is the last.

A being may temporarily open the door, but not be able to handle the full Light of the Sun, due to not being suitably prepared in mind, body, or spirit, and retreat back to a lower level of consciousness. Like lighting a fire but there isn't enough spiritual fuel (spiritual mass) to keep the fire self sustaining.

(10-14-2017, 06:59 PM)Infinite Wrote:  III - To become 51% STO don't need the penetration in the in the eighth or intelligent infinity right? It's just a requirement to be harvested in the end of the cycle or Harvest.

No. My understanding is that penetration of the 8th level allows a being to self harvest at will (walk the universe with unfettered tread). Actually, opening up the indigo center, alone, by itself, allows one to self harvest as well by use of intelligent energy. This is what negative adepts attempt to do, because they aren't interested in opening the violet ray center (it cannot be controlled from the ego and would result in switching polarity). They attempt to open the indigo center as much as they can, but not actually walk through it. They want power, not unity. So they seek unity only to the extent that it grants them more power.

Harvest at the end of a cycle of 3rd density merely requires that the kundalini be raised and stabilized at the heart center.

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10-16-2017, 04:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-16-2017, 04:08 PM by IndigoGeminiWolf.)
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For wanderers who haven't gotten karmatically involved in Earth, the kundalini is probably already at green.
Same for dual-activated.

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10-17-2017, 07:14 PM,
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(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  I would like to point out that quote is in relation to negative polarity entities becoming harvested.  If we are discussing the mechanics of a positive harvest relationship, that quote may be misleading as to the requirements to become harvested as a positive polarity being.

I believe that it's a general rule. The question 34.2 seems to indicate this:

Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  To answer your further questions:

I: Opening the Gateway to Intelligent Infinity is equated to basically, from Indigo Ray kundalini levels, the user attains a proper vibration that causes the Violet Ray to 'open like a gateway' where the kundalini of the user can then move into violet ray then, with further attempts to penetrate the above white ray chakra, if able to do so can contact intelligent infinity (supposedly directly through the physical incarnation, not sure about this though.)  So there is a difference.

Thanks.

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  II: This question is unintelligible to me

I'm sorry for that. English isn't my first language, so mistakes can happen. But you was very receptive and understood my question:

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  Assuming you are asking if simply experiencing the opening of the Gateway (Violet Ray) is enough to ascend the octave, my answer is no, it is not enough, you must move further and penetrate the eighth chakra above the violet ray (the White Chakra), which is equated to penetrating into intelligent infinity.

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  III: This is correct.  Ra's quote you used in this post I quoted was in relation to sts polarity mechanics.  However, there does seem to be some mechanism of ascending the MAJORITY OF THE OCTAVE that seems to be linked with this kundalini penetrating the eighth chakra of intelligent infinity.  I think it becomes a judgment call by the user of that kundalini, they can choose to become harvested is the typical reward (or chose not to be harvested), but for some who seem to do it to a certain high level degree, they seem to have access to skip the majority of the Octave (such as in the book 'The Aaron, Q'uo Dialogues') and ascend right into 7D.

Thanks.

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  the main 'work' of the typical positive incarnation is to move kundalini into green ray and hold it there enough so to signal the violet ray aspect of the entity that it is ready to be harvested according to the already setup system.  That is the main point, all energy work above green is optional.  You're not asked as a typical person whom is trying to become harvested to do Work in Consciousness, you're only asked to, at the best of your ability to do so properly, provide unconditional love to others.

(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  So to answer your third question again, yes, the sto polarity only needs to do two things:
Move Kundalini up into Green Ray and be able to maintain it there for a time.
Manage to do this with at least 50% of all interactions with others (and I assume the self too.)

I understand. So, in this case it's necessary WAIT the Harvest to become a 4D entity?

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10-17-2017, 07:28 PM,
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(10-16-2017, 03:20 PM)anagogy Wrote:  Opening the gateway is fully opening or unblocking the indigo center. You can 'crack open the door a little' without fully opening the gateway. The gateway is not fully unblocked until the violet ray is penetrated consciously. Experiences of playing with the gateway will cause indigo expressions, or manifestations of intelligent energy, because this is the intelligent energy level.

Thanks.

(10-16-2017, 03:20 PM)anagogy Wrote:  A being may temporarily open the door, but not be able to handle the full Light of the Sun, due to not being suitably prepared in mind, body, or spirit, and retreat back to a lower level of consciousness. Like lighting a fire but there isn't enough spiritual fuel (spiritual mass) to keep the fire self sustaining.

Thanks.

(10-14-2017, 06:59 PM)Infinite Wrote:  Actually, opening up the indigo center, alone, by itself, allows one to self harvest as well by use of intelligent energy. This is what negative adepts attempt to do, because they aren't interested in opening the violet ray center (it cannot be controlled from the ego and would result in switching polarity). They attempt to open the indigo center as much as they can, but not actually walk through it. They want power, not unity. So they seek unity only to the extent that it grants them more power.

Interesting response. Thanks.

(10-16-2017, 03:20 PM)anagogy Wrote:  Harvest at the end of a cycle of 3rd density merely requires that the kundalini be raised and stabilized at the heart center.

So, there are TWO manner to become a 4D entity: be harvested or harvest yourself right? When kundalini is raised and stabilized at the heart center the entity needs WAIT the Harvest, while penetatrion in the intelligent infinity don't require wait. Is this correct?
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10-17-2017, 08:56 PM,
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Basically.

Harvest is a time/space event majorly, so when an incarnation ends the harvestable entity is harvested then.

The means to instantly being harvested despite still being in space/time required penetration of the 8th chakra, something very very very few have apparently managed.

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10-18-2017, 03:46 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-18-2017, 03:47 PM by Ashim.)
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I think that's where we're going. I'm pretty sure that my body is healing. I can feel the atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun. I feel that Harvest is already a given for most now. There are so many helping hands in 4th density. Every aspect of my being has already died and become transformed. The requirements of 3rd density are no more. Ascension within a lifetime is possible.
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10-18-2017, 10:38 PM,
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Well Ashim, if you happen to ascend while still living, I hope you'll make a video and post it on the internet for all of us silly mortals who think such things are impossible Tongue
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10-19-2017, 04:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-19-2017, 04:37 PM by Ashim.)
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(10-18-2017, 10:38 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  Well Ashim, if you happen to ascend while still living, I hope you'll make a video and post it on the internet for all of us silly mortals who think such things are impossible Tongue

If I recall correctly, uploading youtube videos was not at the top of my list at the time of ascension.

Imagine being strapped to a rocket, aimed at the sun, blasting off, getting caught in the solar tractor beam, only to explode into a trillion pieces.

Then, of course, the thought. "I could make a video".

Brilliant.

Better still, a book. In every airport bookstore.

"How to Ascend from a Planet".

No, really, when I get close to my crystal grid things light up. I can feel the proximity of 4th density. It is becoming part of my geography.
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10-19-2017, 07:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-19-2017, 08:10 PM by anagogy.)
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(10-17-2017, 07:28 PM)Infinite Wrote:  So, there are TWO manner to become a 4D entity: be harvested or harvest yourself right? When kundalini is raised and stabilized at the heart center the entity needs WAIT the Harvest, while penetatrion in the intelligent infinity don't require wait. Is this correct?

Correct.

If one opens the indigo center (intelligent energy) sufficiently, one may harvest oneself using intelligent energy (open their own gateway).

The entity who stabilizes the kundalini at the heart center must wait till the end of the cycle to be harvested (because that is when the gateway to intelligent infinity opens). It is sort of like how you don't graduate high school till the end of your 12th year (in America). You have to complete the class, to get the diploma, allowing you to "graduate". There are, of course, 3 classes of 3rd density on a given planet, each lasting 25,000 years. After those classes, the planet itself graduates to the next level to continue its evolution as well. Since growing a 4D level makes the planet too "Edenic", or harmonious for 3rd density work to occur efficiently, 3rd density cannot cycle on the plane again until 4D learns to completely hide their density from the lower densities.

However, if one opens the violet center (potentiated intelligent infinity), or even taps into the 8th level (unpotentiated intelligent infinity) one has the power to self harvest, however, one will not choose to, because when the distinction between self and others is completely annihilated, service to others becomes completely automatic, and the entity (if we can even still refer to them as a separate entity) would not choose to immediately self harvest. They would stay incarnate, and teach others. An indigo entity, on the other hand, might choose to leave their vessel and continue on to the next density. Or if they were magically adept enough, even ascend in a more new agey conceptualized way, and literally dissolve their physical body into "the light". It would be kind of pointless, but it could be done.

The indigo entity sort of graduates themselves, sort of like getting their GED on their own, to continue my silly analogy.

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10-20-2017, 07:19 AM,
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(10-18-2017, 03:46 PM)Ashim Wrote:  I think that's where we're going. I'm pretty sure that my body is healing. I can feel the atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun. I feel that Harvest is already a given for most now. There are so many helping hands in 4th density. Every aspect of my being has already died and become transformed. The requirements of 3rd density are no more. Ascension within a lifetime is possible.

Ashim in that statement  "atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun"  I find it especially for me is concentrated or peaks in the third eye a pulling and buzzing sensation.  Not sure if its what yo are talking about on harvest and ascension I just know Its like a wakeup call for me to become more present and take more of the experience in, being completely in the moment.
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10-20-2017, 07:51 AM,
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"atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun" sounds like it would be a great art piece. Too bad I'm still pretty much a beginner, though I am getting better.

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10-20-2017, 08:59 AM,
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(10-19-2017, 07:48 PM)anagogy Wrote:  If one opens the indigo center (intelligent energy)

Do you see the indigo center as the itself gateway?

(10-19-2017, 07:48 PM)anagogy Wrote:  The entity who stabilizes the kundalini at the heart center must wait till the end of the cycle to be harvested (because that is when the gateway to intelligent infinity opens).

Very thanks bro. This helped me a lot!
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10-20-2017, 02:27 PM,
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(10-20-2017, 08:59 AM)Infinite Wrote:  Do you see the indigo center as the itself gateway?

Yes, it is the gateway to intelligent infinity, but it is not intelligent infinity itself, it is the level of intelligent energy. The veil is technically still intact at this level, though it becomes quite permeable.

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10-20-2017, 07:22 PM,
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(10-20-2017, 07:19 AM)Quan Wrote:  
(10-18-2017, 03:46 PM)Ashim Wrote:  I think that's where we're going. I'm pretty sure that my body is healing. I can feel the atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun. I feel that Harvest is already a given for most now. There are so many helping hands in 4th density. Every aspect of my being has already died and become transformed. The requirements of 3rd density are no more. Ascension within a lifetime is possible.

Ashim in that statement  "atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun"  I find it especially for me is concentrated or peaks in the third eye a pulling and buzzing sensation.  Not sure if its what yo are talking about on harvest and ascension I just know Its like a wakeup call for me to become more present and take more of the experience in, being completely in the moment.

Yes. Just, no matter what, if you can access the stillness of an eternal moment, if for only the fraction of a blink of the eye, then, keep doing what you were doing. You will probably not experience being "completely in the moment" just yet, but make progressive inroads into a series of higher and increasingly denser mental spaces. 
You will know Intelligent Infinity when you feel it.
 
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10-20-2017, 08:51 PM,
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I think I feel completely in the moment when I am drawing, and am working from my right brain. I am fully engaged in creativity, even if I am copying anatomy.

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10-21-2017, 11:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-22-2017, 07:19 AM by Infinite.)
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I found this:

Quote:J: The process of the raising of the kundalini from the base chakra to the crown, is this an electrical process?

I am Q’uo, and though we find that it would be incorrect to describe this process as merely an electrical process, it is a process that contains the qualities of the movement of energy in a fashion which is similar to the movement of electricity through various circuits.

The south or magnetic pole of the seeker at the base of the spine and soles of the feet draws into the auric field of the seeker the catalyst or unprocessed experience which the seeker shall work upon according to its unique configuration of energy center blockages and clear circuit pathways. Thus, each seeker will perceive the daily round of activities in a manner which is congruent with this configuration of energy centers and will find its focus of attention drawn to the level or frequency of vibration that is appropriate for its current learning.

As succeeding energy centers or circuit areas within the energy centers of the seeker are opened and balanced to a minimal degree through a great portion of time and experience, the prana or love of the Creator will move further and further up the, as you have called it, path of the kundalini until there is the mating with the guiding light or Polaris of the self, where the seeker is already at one with the creation, so that an experience of conscious unity with the creation becomes available to the seeker.

This completing of the circuit of the series of energy centers has been described by many of your peoples using various terminology, the enlightenment, the contact with intelligent infinity, the nirvana, as some call it,


Thus, the seeker may be seen as a configuration of circuits or series of lessons and balances to achieve, with each day offering further opportunity to move the flow of love further along the inner pathways that will eventually culminate in the bringing into harmonic resonance each portion of the seeker’s being.
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10-24-2017, 05:04 AM,
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(10-20-2017, 07:22 PM)Ashim Wrote:  
(10-20-2017, 07:19 AM)Quan Wrote:  
(10-18-2017, 03:46 PM)Ashim Wrote:  I think that's where we're going. I'm pretty sure that my body is healing. I can feel the atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun. I feel that Harvest is already a given for most now. There are so many helping hands in 4th density. Every aspect of my being has already died and become transformed. The requirements of 3rd density are no more. Ascension within a lifetime is possible.

Ashim in that statement  "atoms of my body being pulled towards the sun"  I find it especially for me is concentrated or peaks in the third eye a pulling and buzzing sensation.  Not sure if its what yo are talking about on harvest and ascension I just know Its like a wakeup call for me to become more present and take more of the experience in, being completely in the moment.

Yes. Just, no matter what, if you can access the stillness of an eternal moment, if for only the fraction of a blink of the eye, then, keep doing what you were doing. You will probably not experience being "completely in the moment" just yet, but make progressive inroads into a series of higher and increasingly denser mental spaces. 
You will know Intelligent Infinity when you feel it.
 
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10-24-2017, 09:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-24-2017, 09:08 PM by Infinite.)
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RE: Is kundalini awakening a requisit to Harvest?
I found an extraordinary response of Q'uo about the indigo and violet centers:

Quote:You ask this day about the indigo and the violet rays or energy centers of the energy body. Indeed, this is a very deep, almost bottomless, subject and we are happy to share our thoughts on this subject.

This instrument is in the process of looking for the keys to these two energy centers in that she wishes to retain the detailed discussion of these higher energy centers for another volume of this series that is being written. Therefore, there is the desire to move to the heart of the higher rays and in particular the indigo and the violet rays [in the present volume.]

The very heart of the function of these two rays has to do with who entities in third density are when they have been able to penetrate the surface of their lives and to move into the essence of their beings. You could consider yourself as a focal point or an interface in this regard. You have a physical body and a physical mind which ground you, more or less, into the world of the physical, third-density, consensus reality that you enjoy and in which you have your experiences and do your learning. Within you also is the one infinite Creator. In every cell of your body, in every vibration of your thoughts lives the one infinite Creator.

Yet, in terms of process, there is that sensation of needing to move from the outer world through the doorway into the inner world. Basically, you as entities are a living doorway, a living gate, an interface so that the one infinite Creator, in a far less distorted form than you can appreciate with your senses, can move in power into your life. Those known as Ra have described this function as being the gateway to intelligent infinity.

In order to approach this gateway, much work has already been done. For it is impossible to enter the gateway of indigo ray until the entity has gathered the entirety and the wholeness of its integrated self into the heart and has done the work of forgiving and falling in love with this integrated self, with its many perceived faults.

Therefore, we speak of those seekers who have achieved—either by gifts of the spirit or by a process of work in consciousness and the disciplining of the personality—the ability to yearn for and desire that essence of the one infinite Creator that can be pulled through that gateway and into the energy body which is interpenetrating the physical body, thereby bringing infinity and eternity into a finite environment

The model of this activity is that of what is known in the Buddhist world as kundalini. You have the infinite love and light of the one Creator streaming through the chakra system from the bottom up, feeding it with an infinite supply of light. This is the power and the energy with which you work in getting to know yourself, becoming friends with yourself, and working with all of the various aspects of physical life on Earth as you know it.

In itself, it is a powerful and infinite energy. And yet, as the seeker begins to mature he begins to have a yearning and a thirst for the immediate impact of divine light. Therefore, as the seeker becomes more aware of the true nature of his desire, he begins to be able to focus that desire and to set an intention to ask for the highest and best.


As the seeker does this on a continuing and intensifying basis, that gateway to intelligent infinity becomes clear. As that intensification persists, the gateway opens and the light of inspiration comes through to bless and fructify the fallow and waiting soul.

In the end you might see this expressing as a completed circuit. The bodily energy, having to do with incarnation and carefully enclosed within incarnation, is as the field that is planted and seeded and sown with this fructifying information-ridden love everlasting that, unlike the energy that streams from the bottom of the energy body upwards, has pointed and articulated information in the silence of that inspiration.

The energy coming through from the bottom of the chakras up is that energy which is yours to manipulate or distort, shall we say, in the ways that you find helpful, useful and beautiful. The divine inspiration that you call through the gateway of intelligent infinity is as a massive information-rich fountain that permeates you at the point at which your desire to seek has matched your intention to seek from above, as it were.

There is in this process a kind of self-abnegation. There is the realization that the mind does not have enough words, the heart does not have enough tears, and the being that expresses on the conscious level does not have the capacity, in and of itself, to understand what it is getting through the gateway of intelligent infinity. Consequently, this work is done in a state of unknowing.

That state of unknowing is usually achieved within your density only by a process of self-acceptance that can be lengthy. Self, as it expresses in waking consciousness, simply needs to be put to bed or moved away so that the self is empty and waiting.

I recommend read all response here (it's very deep): http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_1027.pdf

That replied my question about the gateway and kundalini.
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10-27-2017, 10:08 PM,
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RE: Is kundalini awakening a requisit to Harvest?
(10-17-2017, 07:14 PM)Infinite Wrote:  
(10-15-2017, 07:28 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:  I would like to point out that quote is in relation to negative polarity entities becoming harvested.  If we are discussing the mechanics of a positive harvest relationship, that quote may be misleading as to the requirements to become harvested as a positive polarity being.

I believe that it's a general rule. The question 34.2 seems to indicate this:





Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

I found another clear evidence of that:


Quote:48.10 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy center, centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

As we have noted, each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true-color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.
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