10-22-2017, 07:26 PM
Quote:Q: When a truth-seeker earnestly practices his Yogas, does his inner Guru guide and help him or does he leave him to his own resources, just waiting for the outcome?
M: All happens by itself. Neither the seeker. nor the Guru do anything. Things happen as they happen; blame or praise are apportioned later, after the sense of doership appearing.
Q: How strange! Surely the doer comes before the deed.
M: It is the other way round; the deed is a fact, the doer a mere concept. Your very language shows that while the deed is certain, the doer is dubious; shifting responsibility is a game peculiarly human. Considering the endless list of factors required for anything to happen, one can only admit that everything is responsible for everything, however remote. Doership is a myth born from the illusion of 'me' and 'the mine'.
Sadhguru: Nothing is predetermined. You determine your own destiny, your own actions.
Rupert Spira: Free will is a concession to the deluded mind that believes itself to be separate.
Ramana Maharshi: Everything is predetermined.
Quote:D.: Has man any Free-Will or is everything in his life predestined and preordained?
Maharshi: Free-Will holds the field in association with individuality. As long as individuality lasts so long there is Free-Will.
Quote:In other words, fate and free will appear to exist only so long as our mind appears to exist, but when we scrutinise this mind and thereby know the truth that it does not really exist, fate and free will will also cease to exist.
My personal favorite explanation. [Rupert Spira]
Mooji's explanation (he has many others as well)
Adyashanti on the Personal Will
What I take from this is that the ideas of free will or predetermination are at base irrelevant. Neither is true, neither is untrue.