What does RA mean by "Thought Form"
12-23-2017, 06:14 PM,
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What does RA mean by "Thought Form"
I always get somewhat confused when RA uses the terminology "thought form". Does it mean that the entity is a Physical in our 3D Realm constructed from thought, or does he mean that the entity is not physical but exists in thought alone?
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12-23-2017, 07:11 PM,
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(12-23-2017, 06:14 PM)johncarson698 Wrote:  I always get somewhat confused when RA uses the terminology "thought form".  Does it mean that the entity is a Physical in our 3D Realm constructed from thought, or does he mean that the entity is not physical but exists in thought alone?

The former, arising out of the latter.  It would be equivalent to the concept of "tulpa" of the theosophists. 

A relevant passage, from Wikipedia:

Belgian-French explorer, spiritualist, and Buddhist Alexandra David-Néel claimed to have observed these mystical practices in 20th century Tibet.[1] She reported tulpas are "magic formations generated by a powerful concentration of thought."[8]:331 David-Néel wrote that "an accomplished Bodhisattva is capable of effecting ten kinds of magic creations. The power of producing magic formations, tulkus or less lasting and materialized tulpas, does not, however, belong exclusively to such mystic exalted beings. Any human, divine or demoniac being may be possessed of it. The only difference comes from the degree of power, and this depends on the strength of the concentration and the quality of the mind itself."[8]:115

David-Néel wrote of the tulpa's ability to develop a mind of its own: "Once the tulpa is endowed with enough vitality to be capable of playing the part of a real being, it tends to free itself from its maker's control. This, say Tibetan occultists, happens nearly mechanically, just as the child, when his body is completed and able to live apart, leaves its mother's womb."[8]:283 David-Néel claimed to have created a tulpa in the image of a jolly Friar Tuck-like monk which later developed a life of its own and had to be destroyed.[9] David-Néel raised the possibility that her experience was illusory: "I may have created my own hallucination", though she reports that others could see the thoughtforms that have been created.
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12-23-2017, 10:03 PM,
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(12-23-2017, 06:14 PM)johncarson698 Wrote:  I always get somewhat confused when RA uses the terminology "thought form".  Does it mean that the entity is a Physical in our 3D Realm constructed from thought, or does he mean that the entity is not physical but exists in thought alone?

I think primarily the latter, but it can also then become the former with enough intention/energy behind it.
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12-23-2017, 10:47 PM,
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Ok thx guys!
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12-23-2017, 10:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-23-2017, 11:01 PM by Infinite Unity.)
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To me thought form is everything that is not the true one. Love the great original thought, is exactly that. A thought. In most cases you can take the word distortion congruently with thought. However there is a field of magic surrounding the creation of beings using thought forms. Which most superimpose that which the subject thought form consists of. The composition of the material and how it interchangebly uses distortion, thought form, illusion. All really point to them being 'thought'. For a point of reference of what i speak, is that if you can grasp it, it is most assuredly not you.
Thought itself how we think, is a subset within Love. The original thought. The One thought contained all the potentials for every thought/choice/action. And subsequent fruit/product, expounding infinitely on itself. Free will the great reactor; through choice.
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12-23-2017, 11:11 PM,
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(12-23-2017, 10:56 PM)Infinite Unity Wrote:  To me thought form is everything that is not the true one. Love the great original thought, is exactly that. A thought. In most cases you can take the word distortion congruently with thought. However there is a field of magic surrounding the creation of beings using thought forms. Which most superimpose that which the subject thought form consists of. The composition of the material and how it interchangebly uses distortion, thought form, illusion. All really point to them being 'thought'. For a point of reference of what i speak, is that if you can grasp it, it is most assuredly not you.
Thought itself how we think, is a subset within Love. The original thought. The One thought contained all the potentials for every thought/choice/action. And subsequent fruit/product, expounding infinitely on itself. Free will the great reactor; through choice.

Thanks for your insight, although its absolutely correct, i believe its more philosophical than what i was looking for. I'm just wondering what RA is referring to in the readings when he mentions the word "thought form", because he uses that term alot, and sometimes it comes across as a being living as thought (not a physical 3D body), and sometimes it sounds like an actual Physical 3D object (made from thought). This question came to mind when i was reading the following passage:

16.43 Questioner: I want to ask a rather questionable question. I may not put it in the book. I was wondering if cattle mutilations that we now experience across the country and elsewhere could be explained by you.

Ra: I am Ra. The greater part of your so-called mutilations take place according to the ways of your second-density beings which feed upon carrion. A portion of these so-called mutilations are those which are of what you may call multi-dimensional type: a thought-form construct using various parts in order to have life and being in third density.

16.44 Questioner: Where do these thought-forms come from?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a very ambiguous question. However, we will attempt to answer. Firstly, they come from the Creator. Secondly, they come from what you may call, lower astral in plane, thought. Thirdly, in construct visualization complex they reside in part beneath the crust of your planet.

16.45 Questioner: Are these one form in particular?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities may take any thought-form associated with an emotion of fear or terror.

16.46 Questioner: Are these thought-forms able to attack only cattle or can they also attack human beings?

Ra: I am Ra. These thought-forms cannot attack third-density beings.
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12-23-2017, 11:33 PM,
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As the itself name says, are energy constructs from thoughts. I recommend the reading of the book "Thought-Forms" by Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater (they were theosophists). Here the link to the book: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16269/16269-h/16269-h.htm
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12-23-2017, 11:51 PM,
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A thought form is what Infinite Unity said : it is everything that is not the true one.

It is everything that is love/light light/love.

In the idea of infinity, acceptance of all the potentials the mind can think of is required for a balanced union with what is seen of infinity
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12-23-2017, 11:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-24-2017, 12:01 AM by Infinite Unity.)
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Co creators can participate in creating thought forms.

This world is literally littered, with third density artifacts or thought forms.

Imagine each building is envisioned with the mind, drawn up by the mind. Each brick as built by a hand that is an extension of a mind. All thought forms. Just at a, well you see it level of working/manifestation.

Conscience is magic. All beings work magic at all times. Just to varying degrees for harmony, and learning, and the fun of it. We are just who we all are.
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12-24-2017, 03:11 PM,
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JC, it might be helpful to focus on "an emotion of fear or terror" in your Ra quote.  People can become so mentally focused by way of intense emotion that they can actually see things that are not there, that is, they create the things which they see.  Witnessing something traumatic may cause extreme mental dissonance, for example, and cause a person to have amnesia or to recreate the memory falsely.

Another example is when a group of people believe something so strongly that is appears to them to be real, and perhaps exaggerated.  We all experience this in dreams.  One example is around hero worship where a group of people create a strong thought form around the narrative of their chosen hero (guru, political leader, whatever) so that the resonant strength of the corporate belief helps them all focus their mentation in these same thought structures.

On the astral plain, thought forms can be created in these and other various ways of concentrating thought.  These thought forms have a way of suggesting mental structure to a person susceptible to them.  That is, they suggest one viable way of putting together pieces of experience into a convenient, coherent narrative.  It could be peace, love and macrame when one goes to Woodstock or energetic, self-centered rebellion when you go to a Trump rally.  The concentrated thought structures help sway you to think along certain lines of thought.

Another example would be people who create subtle guardian beings around themselves or their homes, etc. to ward off "evil spirits."  These would be thought forms, for the most part.

Another example is that when some people begin to channel entities, sometimes all they can contact is their own thought-created sense of what a spiritual entity might be.  This can become rather detailed if carried on for a period of time.

So, what is lurking in the crust of the Earth?  There are many dark, ugly congealed lines of horror-filled thought down there born of ceaseless trauma endured by this poor, abused planet...in my view.  This is part of the long term healing of our planetary sphere.

Hope this helps.

 
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