Venus: Extreme Light and ... Love?

[carrie]

I have been thinking.

Since Ra used to be on Venus,

Venus is very hot. Could it be there could be extreme love there?

[JoshC]

A couple things, your post is very vague/inconcise and (I feel could be) easily misinterpreted:

• Because Ra used to be there, it's now hot?
  
• How does heat relate to love?
  
• Of what love do you speak?
  
• In the abstract, there is only love. There is only love everywhere.
  

Love, Light and Namasté

[AnthroHeart]

When I tune in, Venus has a strong presence. But the sun is better at stimulating the heart chakra.

So venus to me doesn't feel loving. The stone Angelite on the other hand has a very loving feel to it. Venus is intense, but rather unemotional.

[Protonexus]

Venus is well known to be the androgynous planet. It is known as the morning star and evening star, as Venus can often be seen for periods of time before/during sunrise and sunset. Venus is the second brightest object in the night sky, it is highly reflective.

Most channelings of Lucifer indicate that Venus is the origin of the Lucifer logos. This is not a rumor. Venus is highly associated with occult activity, particularly as associated with sex and the integration of sexes.

Many of the entities that once or still do call Venus home are the primary inter-actors with Earth bound human beings. It appears as though the entities that inhabited Venus also had a predisposition toward androgyny, being capable of self-reproduction. There is a strong connection between the Nephilim and Venutians. Most classical representations of angels is that of androgyny.

Venus is a source of 'cold' light.

[LsavedSmeD]

Venus is well known to be the androgynous planet. It is known as the morning star and evening star, as Venus can often be seen for periods of time before/during sunrise and sunset. Venus is the second brightest object in the night sky, it is highly reflective.

Most channelings of Lucifer indicate that Venus is the origin of the Lucifer logos. This is not a rumor. Venus is highly associated with occult activity, particularly as associated with sex and the integration of sexes.

Many of the entities that once or still do call Venus home are the primary inter-actors with Earth bound human beings. It appears as though the entities that inhabited Venus also had a predisposition toward androgyny, being capable of self-reproduction. There is a strong connection between the Nephilim and Venutians. Most classical representations of angels is that of androgyny.

Venus is a source of 'cold' light.

Thank you! Finally someone said this!


I am so confused about Venus, as Lucifer states that Lucifer is from Venus but Ra also states this as well.

Lucifer is also known as the Light-Bearer or the bright morning star.

Can a planet be the birth place of more than one social-memory complex?

[fairyfarmgirl]

How do we know that Lucifer is evil or STS? So much in the Bible is skewed. I consider it to be more of political manifesto than a "Holy" Book. It is singularly the most violent document I have ever read. I find myself doubting even in the existence of Lucifer. To me Lucifer could be a group of STS entities all working together to try to take over a planet... not just one so called fallen Angel. As if an Angel coul ever fall...

Venus has always felt very beautiful and androgynous. But the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I have found for me to open my HEART chakra it has taken the balancing of male and female from the Sun and the Earth to do so.

[LsavedSmeD]

How do we know that Lucifer is evil or STS? So much in the Bible is skewed. I consider it to be more of political manifesto than a "Holy" Book. It is singularly the most violent document I have ever read. I find myself doubting even in the existence of Lucifer. To me Lucifer could be a group of STS entities all working together to try to take over a planet... not just one so called fallen Angel. As if an Angel coul ever fall...

Venus has always felt very beautiful and androgynous. But the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I have found for me to open my HEART chakra it has taken the balancing of male and female from the Sun and the Earth to do so.

There is a thread somewhere on the internet that is supposedly one of the entities of Lucifer who explains the history and reasoning of Lucifer as a social memory complex.

[Protonexus]

How do we know that Lucifer is evil or STS? So much in the Bible is skewed. I consider it to be more of political manifesto than a "Holy" Book. It is singularly the most violent document I have ever read. I find myself doubting even in the existence of Lucifer. To me Lucifer could be a group of STS entities all working together to try to take over a planet... not just one so called fallen Angel. As if an Angel coul ever fall...

Venus has always felt very beautiful and androgynous. But the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I have found for me to open my HEART chakra it has taken the balancing of male and female from the Sun and the Earth to do so.

There is a thread somewhere on the internet that is supposedly one of the entities of Lucifer who explains the history and reasoning of Lucifer as a social memory complex.

The thread in question is an interview of the individual with the name Hidden Hand on Above Top Secret forums. An individual that claims to be a lifetime channeler of Lucifer of an 'elite' bloodline. An individual that also acknowledges the accuracy of the Law of One when presented with a question relating to such. The thread in question can be found here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg1

An article can be found about this interview here, the author of this article also acknowledges and plugs the Law of One: http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

Clearly drama is not limited to 3D, imagine what 5D STS drama must be like..
We feel its affects and participate in the same cosmic drama unless somehow completely neutral which both sides of the drama want to convince us all is a terrible thing.

Christianity, in particular Esoteric sects and Gnosticism sees Lucifer as the Lord of Karma. Humanity is tied to Lucifer through accumulated Karma of deeds, not just "bad" deeds. This particular social memory complex graduated and came to be involved in the education of and karma of Human Beings on Earth. Lucifer has always been a multiple personality or social memory complex. Lucifer owns all deficiencies of mankind, these are the minions. The minions live and feed into the power structure because we humans buy into their deceptions.

On Earth, STS entities all fear Lucifer, this is the power structure descending, fear is the base of the power, therefore fear is the primary minion of Lucifer. Lucifer is primarily defined in the negative, STS manner, although there are those that approach Lucifer in a positive, STO manner, and rarely use the name Lucifer. Lucifer is androgynous, after all. I will attest that Lucifer is very real, and as the eye at the top of the pyramid, the capstone to the entire human fear complex has one heck of an STS performance to say the least.

What Ra says in Ra's History:

Questioner: How many of our years ago was Ra’s third density ended?

Ra: I am Ra. The calculations necessary for establishing this point are difficult since so much of what you call time is taken up before and after third density as you see the progress of time from your vantage point. We may say in general that the time of our enjoyment of the choice-making was approximately 2.6 million of your sun-years in your past. However—we correct this instrument. Your term is billion, 2.6 billion of your years in your past. However, this time, as you call it, is not meaningful for our intervening space/time has been experienced in a manner quite unlike your third-density experience of space/time.

Questioner: What was your reason for leaving?

Ra: I am Ra. We wished to be of service.

Questioner: Were some of Ra’s population negatively harvested at the end of Ra’ s third density?

Ra: I am Ra. We had no negative harvest as such although there had been two entities which had harvested themselves during the third density in the negative or service-to-self path. There were, however, those upon the planetary surface during third density whose vibratory patterns were in the negative range but were not harvestable.

Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization upon such a positively polarized planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.

[LsavedSmeD]

I thought Hidden_Hand stated that Lucifer was a 6th density positive entity who instead of graduating turned back and blah blah blah - now to hold up the contract of giving Free Will to the Earth Lucifer has to show the "other-choice" which so happens to be that of the negative orientation.

[Aaron]

I thought Hidden_Hand stated that Lucifer was a 6th density positive entity who instead of graduating turned back and blah blah blah - now to hold up the contract of giving Free Will to the Earth Lucifer has to show the "other-choice" which so happens to be that of the negative orientation.

That's exactly what the dialogue says. I just digested all the information for a second time. Lol! An interesting point that I missed last time around was that Lucifer differentiate themselves from the Orion entities. Although the Orion entities do hail to them in fear, being as they're still in 4th density (neg), they don't see, or don't acknowledge, the wisdom behind Lucifer's offering of catalyst to earth, and henceforth are in it for their own selfish desires.

In the dialogue, its mentioned that Lucifer works closely with Ra, knows Ra, etc. But no specific mention is given to Lucifer's origin that I caught.

[Joseph326]

A brief thought I would like to add to this thread, for each to consider using their own discretion:

Would a social memory complex qualify as an 'entity?'

I read Ra's statement of two entities achieving negative harvest on their planet to mean that these were social memory complexes, not individuals. Then it still makes sense that both Ra and Lucifer are said to originate from the same planet. Isn't a social memory complex basically a group of individuals seeking and serving together in a common direction?

This all leads me to ask, how many social memory complexes do we think there are operating on Earth presently?

[LsavedSmeD]

I thought Hidden_Hand stated that Lucifer was a 6th density positive entity who instead of graduating turned back and blah blah blah - now to hold up the contract of giving Free Will to the Earth Lucifer has to show the "other-choice" which so happens to be that of the negative orientation.

That's exactly what the dialogue says. I just digested all the information for a second time. Lol! An interesting point that I missed last time around was that Lucifer differentiate themselves from the Orion entities. Although the Orion entities do hail to them in fear, being as they're still in 4th density (neg), they don't see, or don't acknowledge, the wisdom behind Lucifer's offering of catalyst to earth, and henceforth are in it for their own selfish desires.

In the dialogue, its mentioned that Lucifer works closely with Ra, knows Ra, etc. But no specific mention is given to Lucifer's origin that I caught.

Hidden_hand does say they originated from Venus. I'm wondering if Lucifer was negative until 6th and instead of going forth came back blah blah blah. Tree of knowledge humans went against the Earth planetary logos Yahweh, then Lucifer was sent to Earth to finish the contract which was giving the choice which is the other choice - Now Lucifer is the "elite" that offers the tools.

Etc...etc.. the catalysts to move forward to entities on the planet Earth.

Hence Lucifer is the "Light bearer" because Lucifer shed Light on "free-will" which Yahweh didn't give to it's entities.

Basically the way it's explained is the best possible explanation I have ever seen for the "garden of eden" and would explain all the negative things on the planet.

Hidden_Hand is basically at the very top of the pyramid and those who are negative do not realize that this is who is above them calling the shots for an agenda that involves the grander picture. Showing the darkness so that entities can understand the light.

Thats why the eye above the pyramid is completely separate from the pyramid.

[unity100]

this hidden hand, lucifer business seems to have too much negative misinformation in it, all of it may be misinformation too.

[LsavedSmeD]

this hidden hand, lucifer business seems to have too much negative misinformation in it, all of it may be misinformation too.

That was done purposely obviously.

It's for those who may discern it.

[unity100]

this hidden hand, lucifer business seems to have too much negative misinformation in it, all of it may be misinformation too.

That was done purposely obviously.

It's for those who may discern it.

so, positive sources, seeded their information with negative information, that only 'those who may discern it' can, well, discern it ?

[Protonexus]

Plainly, anything dealing with Lucifer is by design subject to m(d)isinformation. If someone is channeling Lucifer full-time and plainly states the intentions of bringing about a negative harvest, you could not possibly expect that they would refrain from distorting information. The first thing that this entity wishes to do is enter into a deal with the participator/reader. Then this entity proceeds to deride 'Yahweh', deny Christ and make their subscribed social memory complex look like a victim. When you agree to accept this opinion (through the "suspended judgment" found in the rules of engagement) of 'Yahweh' it gives strength to Lucifer and minions. This is a familiar pattern.

The authenticity, or truthfulness of the identity and the message of Hidden Hand must be seen with eagle eyes - it is a message largely of deception woven behind a motif of STOS. Based upon the source it couldn't be anything else. Even though it appears to be a positive message, it is obviously deceptive and opinionated, a cunning negative trap.

It seems that social memory complexes from neighboring planets have gathered around Earth in order to harvest some sort of tangible benefit for themselves by serving in a capacity. We are a resource to them, our conscious choice.

Venus social memory complexes seem to have reunited for the next "final showdown" on Earth.

[Aaron]

Respectfully, I think the fear that this is somehow a sinister trick or trap is disabling. I suppose it is possible to be afraid or paranoid that you're losing something or vulnerable to some sort of manipulation because the person/entity knows so much, and is in a position of "power". To me, this material hasn't helped me develop spiritually, and hasn't helped open any new avenues of exploration like the Ra and Q'uo materials have. It has reminded me to be a little more aware as I read the parts of the material that are positive. But the rest is only tangenital to our true path of love.

So, while it's true that it may overall be an intentionally misleading message interspersed with positively, you should still be able to use your discernment and only take from it what you need. Compare your present state (anyone who finds this post helpful, not anyone in particular) with the Buddhist monks of old, or the spiritual teachers who are not aware of the Law of One. Do they need this info to spread their love? It should be balanced.

[Ali Quadir]

I would agree Aaron.

I have seen many times that peoples fears and expectations kept them trapped, unable to do something that was not beyond them to do.

Lucifer is just a way of looking at the world. It's inverted to the point where right is wrong and wrong is right. Read it, don't believe it.. And if it makes sense, realize that a lot of things that make sense are universal...

Lucifer for one is about taking full responsibility for the self. You have to do that if you want to join the KKK as well.. Who could argue with that? Doesn't make the rest of the message right. A little knowledge of the supposedly negative goes a long way in getting rid of it...

[LsavedSmeD]

this hidden hand, lucifer business seems to have too much negative misinformation in it, all of it may be misinformation too.

That was done purposely obviously.

It's for those who may discern it.

so, positive sources, seeded their information with negative information, that only 'those who may discern it' can, well, discern it ?

No, Hidden_Hand said straight out that he/she was purposely of the negative orientation for the sake of the contract that Lucifer made in bring the "other choice" to the inhabitants of the planet.

I don't know though, it's all confusing.

[Grillwise]

Something funny,

I read that before the Ra material whilst researching conspiracies and things, and it led me to Ra and the Law of One. So, some good comes out of everything. Sweet.

[unity100]

Plainly, anything dealing with Lucifer is by design subject to m(d)isinformation. If someone is channeling Lucifer full-time and plainly states the intentions of bringing about a negative harvest, you could not possibly expect that they would refrain from distorting information. The first thing that this entity wishes to do is enter into a deal with the participator/reader. Then this entity proceeds to deride 'Yahweh', deny Christ and make their subscribed social memory complex look like a victim. When you agree to accept this opinion (through the "suspended judgment" found in the rules of engagement) of 'Yahweh' it gives strength to Lucifer and minions. This is a familiar pattern.

The authenticity, or truthfulness of the identity and the message of Hidden Hand must be seen with eagle eyes - it is a message largely of deception woven behind a motif of STOS. Based upon the source it couldn't be anything else. Even though it appears to be a positive message, it is obviously deceptive and opinionated, a cunning negative trap.

It seems that social memory complexes from neighboring planets have gathered around Earth in order to harvest some sort of tangible benefit for themselves by serving in a capacity. We are a resource to them, our conscious choice.

Venus social memory complexes seem to have reunited for the next "final showdown" on Earth.

yahweh, however, we know to be of orion origin, a negative society complex, from what Ra tells us.

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so far, the most successful planet in this solar system (hence logos locale) has been venus it seems. maldek got blown up. mars got broken.

[Protonexus]

The Tetragrammaton YHVH or Yod He Vav He is the oldest known name, Yahweh and Jehovah are distortions of this name.

The Tetragrammaton is a key to creation, Yahweh is just a name.

Yahweh and Jehovah are just more minions to usurp the title of one true god/creator.

From the picture being painted here, the 3 social memory complex that emerged from Venus 3D were Lucifer, Orions, and Ra. And now all 3 are interacting with Earth.

Let us not fear deception, but witness it and testify the truth.

This thread should ultimately get back to being about love rather than fear. Lucifer is brought up to illustrate a point, that is the influence and behavioral pattern.

There is a strong negative distortion at play in the world due to unprepared individuals channeling entities under pretense and receiving very distorted information of self-aggrandizing/negative agenda and then proceeding to preach it like gospel across the internet and throughout New Age material everywhere with the words love, light and self used liberally.

No cause for fear, however as it is easy to identify the self-aggrandizement even behind a message of ego-less-ness and equality. Awareness is absolutely necessary as slight of mind/hand is a favorite way of presenting a salad of valid information with a dressing of delusion. It is crucial to recognize that an entity that follows this pattern is leading other entities astray, likely into some STS trap. Fishing for human minds and spirits. Fear is the intoxicating aroma that will draw in the anglers.

To speak now of Love, Ra was quite a large harvest of STOS beings. There must have been a large population of deeply compassionate entities on Venus. If they were androgynous they likely had a very balanced perspective of sex, and the disharmonious relationships common between the split sexes were a non-issue. Similarly as Venus is recognized for radiating the wisdom of love and co-passion.

Ra addresses repeatedly the naivety experienced due to the harmony of the entities that make up Ra. It seems like it is difficult for Ra to take action here without incurring significant consequences even backfiring. Ra and Lucifer could be in the process of balancing each other out to prepare for the transition, in some cosmic logoic energy exchange.

[LsavedSmeD]

I thought the Orion crusaders came from Orion?

I'm so confused.

Going to reread the material, again tommorrow.

[unity100]

Ra addresses repeatedly the naivety experienced due to the harmony of the entities that make up Ra. It seems like it is difficult for Ra to take action here without incurring significant consequences even backfiring. Ra and Lucifer could be in the process of balancing each other out to prepare for the transition, in some cosmic logoic energy exchange.

ra is of rather late 6d, any negative entity/complex can be at most early 6d. it is unlikely that they are balancing each other. since, early 6d negative would be in confusion to deal with anything.

[Poffo]

From the picture being painted here, the 3 social memory complex that emerged from Venus 3D were Lucifer, Orions, and Ra. And now all 3 are interacting with Earth.

Not sure where you got that from, regarding the Orions coming from Venus, but that's not in the Law of One, and furthermore it doesn't make sense considering that the name "Orion" used by Ra is to denote their approximate space/time location.

/:idea:

[Joseph326]

This is pure conjecture, but maybe the Orion entities had an influence upon the harvest of Venus much as they have upon ours? Just a thought, although I have not read anything that definitively states that. Kind of like if I move to Russia, I may have come from the U.S. but I could then be 'from' Russia as well.

Also, would it not be more in-line with the Law of One to accept and love every part of ourself, even the so-called negative entities? The more we concentrate on the technicalities of how different those darker portions of the mind are, the darker they become. Negative entities provide service just as positive entities do. Polarity is, after all, just an illusion presented for us to learn from

[unity100]

truth and love are different however.

[Joseph326]

Is it not true that everything is love? It may not always be perceived as such, especially when living in a world of polarity, but does that make it any less true?

[Protonexus]

From the picture being painted here, the 3 social memory complex that emerged from Venus 3D were Lucifer, Orions, and Ra. And now all 3 are interacting with Earth.

Not sure where you got that from, regarding the Orions coming from Venus, but that's not in the Law of One, and furthermore it doesn't make sense considering that the name "Orion" used by Ra is to denote their approximate space/time location.

/:idea:

This is true that it is not contained in the Law of One, the format may have not been the best to explain that it is a "hunch" that 1 of the 2 entities that Ra mentions negative harvesting in 3D Venus was associated with Orion influence. These entities were walk-ins into 3D Venus space/time, says Ra, they did not originate from 2D Venus.

In an attempt to be concise, specificity was lost and perhaps the term Orion-associated entity would be preferrable to "Orions."

Orion crusaders is a term used by Ra, the Orion group has a strong tendency toward religious dictatorships - doctrines that prevent growth and new ideas while encouraging the few to dominate the many. Ra indicates that the 2 entities that harvested themselves in 3D Venus space/time were engaged in a holy war.

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ra is of rather late 6d, any negative entity/complex can be at most early 6d. it is unlikely that they are balancing each other. since, early 6d negative would be in confusion to deal with anything.

Questioner: I see then. What you are saying is that these naive Confederation entities had had the same thing happen to them in the past so they were doing the same thing for the Atlantean entities. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. We remind you that we are one of the naive members of that Confederation and are still attempting to recoup the damage for which we feel responsibility. It is our duty as well as honor to continue with your peoples, therefore, until all traces of the distortions of our teach/learnings have been embraced by their opposite distortions, and balance achieved.


It can be seen as this, Ra has lots STOS experience on record - Lucifer has lots of STS experience on record. This has to be dissolved for the 6D entity to transfigure into 7th. Ra states that Ra is seeking to serve the One Creator without polarity. Ra is severing all karmic ties to the lower dimensions and erasing the STOS influence via negation. Ra may be able to do this alone, simply by allowance and ceasing to form new ties. It seems possible that Ra and Lucifer could catalyze this process further by negation or embrace of the opposite.

To clarify, the entity Ra specifically has a long history of interacting with intelligences of Earth as described by Ra in order to promote STOS and perform duties of teach/learning. This has created distortions of the Law of One, Ra must scale back and eventually cease this polarity preference to enter 7D. To the point that no intelligence knows what Ra is, no memory or record remains. This is why 7D entity do not publicize, and do not even seem to interact with 3D. 7D must remain unknown by design. Ra is seeking to erase Ra.

[unity100]

Is it not true that everything is love? It may not always be perceived as such, especially when living in a world of polarity, but does that make it any less true?

everything is not love. love of 4d, is an emotion pertaining to green ray vibration. the 'love' of 8d, named similarly love in english for probably lack of a better word, is the energy that forms from intelligent infinity, ie, intelligent energy. however, intelligent infinity, is not love.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=27&ss=1#12

then again there are 2 important things to pay attention. first, in the above quote, intelligent infinity is the source from which all loves emanate. apparently, not just one kind of 'love'. this explains the differentiation in between this first type of energy being called love in english, but differently in other cultures' occult/spiritual heritages.

this is further strengthened by the below quote :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=34&ss=1#3

every entity experiences contact with intelligent infinity, differently. therefore, every entity will see a different part of it.

it is natural probably, for 4d entities, or entities that are functioning in 4d, experiencing the source as 'love', when they contact it.

its normal, since 4d entity would see love in everything, and that's the nature of that vibration and density.

Ra is severing all karmic ties to the lower dimensions and erasing the STOS influence via negation. Ra may be able to do this alone, simply by allowance and ceasing to form new ties. It seems possible that Ra and Lucifer could catalyze this process further by negation or embrace of the opposite.

that is an incorrect approach.

what one needs to do would depend on their development path and particular balance, in order to balance further. there is no mandatory 'negation'. each balance is unique. it cant be generalized as thus.

there is no telling that, ra's octave-wide karmic model, required the 'naivete' acts on this planet and any other task they engaged in, in order to get into balance, offsetting something else, from before.

To clarify, the entity Ra specifically has a long history of interacting with intelligences of Earth as described by Ra in order to promote STOS and perform duties of teach/learning. This has created distortions of the Law of One, Ra must scale back and eventually cease this polarity preference to enter 7D. To the point that no intelligence knows what Ra is, no memory or record remains. This is why 7D entity do not publicize, and do not even seem to interact with 3D. 7D must remain unknown by design. Ra is seeking to erase Ra.

you are describing the identity-leave back process that happens towards end of 7d. its not relevant to 6d.

and, that leaving does not happen by 'erasing' any ties or anything. the entire experience/resource/history is left for the higher self at 6d to make use of. everything is still there. just, the entity leaves its attachment to that experience totality, and returns to infinite intelligence.

and, furthermore, all what has happened, will forever remain in the space/time point they happened, and it will be possible for any entity to go back in time (those that they can) and look into the past, as the tape recorder example, and higher self phenomenon allows.

if, an entity 'erased' its presence, it would leave a dent in the continuum of the past.