10-25-2010, 08:46 AM
HEy man... how did your 3D body die and how did the rebirth take place? Unity and I want to know...
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10-25-2010, 08:46 AM
HEy man... how did your 3D body die and how did the rebirth take place? Unity and I want to know...
10-25-2010, 08:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-25-2010, 08:53 AM by AnthroHeart.)
I don't know how my body transitioned. All I know is that the process was transparent.
10-25-2010, 08:50 AM
Ok Gemini. Now you're just trolling. I'd expect some understanding for our position. Instead you're just adding coal to the fire.
10-25-2010, 08:52 AM
Sorry it came across that way. I'll edit the post.
10-25-2010, 08:57 AM
So it was not meant literally? in what way is a 4D body different?
10-25-2010, 08:58 AM
Please, I'm really trying to understand. And I really need your help on that.
10-25-2010, 09:26 AM
he is either satirizing, or trolling.
10-25-2010, 09:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-25-2010, 09:39 AM by AnthroHeart.)
Ali, I am so sorry for introducing such distortions to you and others. I am working to clean up the mess I have caused with sharing. It causes too much distortion, so I'll have to refrain from other questions.
10-25-2010, 09:55 AM
10-25-2010, 10:14 AM
Gemini, thanks for stopping the flow of distortion, now lets get to the bottom of this. If you believe what's happening to you then all of us can work together figuring it out.
Do you want to experiment with your ascended status? It should be trivial for you to have dinner with all of us tonight! If you cannot do this, can we then assume that it is a subjective experience you're having? If it is then it has meaning to you, and potential lessons for all of us. I'm assuming there is no foul play on your side. That's something you're carrying on your own shoulders. If there is, obviously, please stop it. No one is helped by it, especially not you.
10-25-2010, 02:47 PM
My friend Ali !!! I don't mean to pick on you and the only reason I picked to reply to your post is that I found it to be most reasonable and open position. I wanted to have a conversation with someone open and willing to listen to another perspective. And I find you are that person. I apologize for any misunderstanding this might have caused you.
I believe Gemini is having a subjective experience. I believe he is looking for some support and confirmation. I believe we are that loving supporting group in a position to help him. I believe he has not asked anyone to believe him and start taking this as gospel. I believe if we don't resonate with his message then we should ask questions. If we still don't understand it then should ignore it. But not criticize him or suggest him being an impostor for posting this. He has a lengthy track records here on the site and this is the first time we noticed something like this. So we should be more compassionate and understanding. I believe some people have been just too harsh on him. (not you) I believe that we can do better than that.
10-25-2010, 03:12 PM
with 'some people have been "just" too harsh on him', you probably mean me.
'we can do better than that', how. '$5000 fine for littering and jail time in 98% positive 5d', how. 'my 3d body is dead, and the process was "transparent"', how ... he doesnt say he is having a subjective experience or anything. you are believing it to be so. not only that, but he doesnt even willing to elaborate on any of these, 'not to increase distortions'. stating that something that is being told is way too out of bounds, even with the exceedingly liberal standards of spirituality and Ra material does not make 'harsh'. neither does accepting anything that is being told as real and believing it help any person in need.
10-25-2010, 03:15 PM
(10-25-2010, 03:12 PM)unity100 Wrote: stating that something that is being told is way too out of bounds, even with the exceedingly liberal standards of spirituality and Ra material does not make 'harsh'. What makes it harsh is saying things like- He is trolling and he is satirizing, essentially questioning his integrity. Yes! we can do better than that. (10-25-2010, 03:15 PM)thefool Wrote: What makes it harsh is saying things like- He is trolling and he is satirizing, essentially questioning his integrity. I think we can ALL do better. Several people have contested Gemini's story. As an observer, my impression was that any of those who questioned his story might have been interpreted as 'harsh.' Gemini's story need not be either true or a fabrication. Those aren't the only 2 options. There is a 3rd option: Maybe all this really did happen, in the inner planes of his mind. Gemini, might I offer a suggestion? I have experienced many fantastic things. I have swum with whales and dolphins, dove down to the bottom of the ocean, flown with birds, traveled the far reaches of the galaxy, ridden on the backs of dragons, visited temples in the inner planes, conversed with LightBeings, communicated with Nature Spirits, played music on the rings of Saturn, moved mountains and rivers, and even flown into the heart of the Sun. I haven't yet gotten around to creating any galaxies, though. I've also witnessed bodily death, and felt the lifeforce leaving my body...I've gone back in time to the Middle Ages and visited the Druids...I've traveled with shamans on the inner planes... ...and much more I might not be remembering. All these things happened to me, in my meditations and visualizations. (And that's not even counting dreams!) Were these experiences real? Absolutely! But real in the sense that they occurred in some dimension of consciousness. I see most of these experiences as working with Archetypes, who took certain forms in order to work with me, to facilitate spiritual work or healing. An Archetype might appear to me as a person, or a dragon, or whatever. When I visit the Sun in my meditation, I am visiting the Sun as Archetype. If I had a dream about paying a fine or going to jail, I would likely see that as symbolic, rather than assuming money necessarily exists in a certain density. For me, in that particular meditative experience, that particular symbolism was necessary to convey a certain meaning or message. At the end of my meditation, I am back in my 3D body, sitting here at the computer, using my physical fingers to type. Gemini, perhaps the reason many people are having some issues with your story is that it is presented as being factual in our present 3D reality. Perhaps if you clarified for us that these were visualizations, or meditations, that might help us better understand your experiences. Have you considered evaluating these experiences as one might interpret a dream, probing the mysteries of the symbols contained therein?
10-26-2010, 04:24 AM
(10-25-2010, 03:15 PM)thefool Wrote:(10-25-2010, 03:12 PM)unity100 Wrote: stating that something that is being told is way too out of bounds, even with the exceedingly liberal standards of spirituality and Ra material does not make 'harsh'. someone thought he was trolling, on the grounds known to him. i am thinking that he is satirizing, because what he is saying seems to be modified versions of what a number of other people have told or shared as experiences in various other threads before. also, he has been imitating some various patterns that have appeared during the course of discussions of others, and have used some of the rather overused and abused catchphrases they are using. also, he is rather meshing up some words taken out of some concepts and using them to give random answers. yeah. i really think he is satirizing.
10-26-2010, 05:44 AM
(10-25-2010, 02:47 PM)thefool Wrote: My friend Ali !!! I don't mean to pick on you and the only reason I picked to reply to your post is that I found it to be most reasonable and open position. I wanted to have a conversation with someone open and willing to listen to another perspective. And I find you are that person. I apologize for any misunderstanding this might have caused you. You asked for my position the fool, so I will present it.. I have asked questions just like many others. I started by asking questions. Most questions were ignored. Every time we ask a question Gemini keeps coming back with more random incoherent bits of his story. I analyzed the situation 3 days ago. You remember because you objected to this then. I gave 4 possible situations. Either he was lying, and making fun of us. Or he had broken through in understanding, in which case he would be very able to respond and clarify his situation to us. Or he broke through and doesn't understand which means psychotherapeutic assistance is required. Or finally the option I gave most attention too: he's having a subjective experience which he understands instinctively but that is not linked to our shared worlds. That was my guess at that point. Gemini as the initiator of this discussion has the responsibility to clarify himself. Answer the questions. If he has no intent to clarify himself.. Why should I intend to understand him? He's not mad, he's sane enough to type coherent sentences. I also know him as intelligent and strong. There's no reason for him to avoid answering the questions. We also have to remain critical and discerning. So yes, considering that I get no information from him even after request, and his story is quite messy and extraordinary in certain places, and I have no reason to assume he's gone mad, I do question his integrity. Gemini still has the ability to respond and explain his position and I can still change my mind about that. But what choice am I given really? Here's a guy who claims he's dead and turned into God... (Which cut down on the cost of living quite a bit if you ignore the 5d fines.) I've seen people's hair color change over the duration of an evening going from black to red. I've seen people grow fangs in a period of weeks. I've met a child soldier from western europe who's had bullet and other wounds to show. I've seen people switch between past life alters. And I've met therianthropes, whose behavior and abilities really made them a halfway point between humans and animals. (That guy really weirded me out.) I've met a few spiritual adepts and seen them do crazy stuff, and I even had the pleasure to meet some fairies. I'm not in the habit of just disbelieving something because it sounds crazy. The difference is that each of them has been willing and able to supply me with evidence, to show me their abilities or peculiarities, and to answer my questions. I'm not that hard to convince, I believe in the subjective experience because I'm having it myself. I however need to be able to discern between a troll and a honest man. As far as I am concerned the ball is in Gemini's court. My faith in his integrity is damaged. And that was only to be expected. Ask him to tell this story to his colleagues and I'll seem very mellow and gullible in comparison. But my faith is not beyond repair, all I need is some answers.
10-26-2010, 01:42 PM
(10-26-2010, 05:44 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: I've seen people's hair color change over the duration of an evening going from black to red. I've seen people grow fangs in a period of weeks. I've met a child soldier from western europe who's had bullet and other wounds to show. I've seen people switch between past life alters. And I've met therianthropes, whose behavior and abilities really made them a halfway point between humans and animals. (That guy really weirded me out.) I've met a few spiritual adepts and seen them do crazy stuff, and I even had the pleasure to meet some fairies. Wow! And here I thought I was the s*** for riding dragons! I bow to your superior weirdness.
10-27-2010, 03:40 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2010, 03:48 AM by Sacred Fool.)
Shall we their fond pageant see?
Lord, what fools these mortals be! ~Puck (WS)
10-27-2010, 07:03 AM
LOL...
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers" Henry VI, pt II Oops... LAWyers...
10-27-2010, 12:59 PM
10-27-2010, 03:04 PM
how can you be sure that s/he/it was 'imaginary' ...
10-27-2010, 11:51 PM
Imagine if the matrix was just an image. And 2d is an animated choose your own adventure book. Then multiply that to everyone "thinks" they are vampires. It's weird to think that letters may be numbers or that everything you've ever learned in school might be false. It's crazy cause last time I felt like this I thought.....it's crazy time go nuts! I figure if I'm going to go nuts I'll do it on halloween. Trick or treat what am I going to wear on Sunday? Wish I didn't have to work all night.
10-28-2010, 05:58 AM
(10-27-2010, 03:04 PM)unity100 Wrote: how can you be sure that s/he/it was 'imaginary' ...Well, his existence is not supported by objective facts. So I should expect no one to believe me. That didn't stop me from hanging out with him, he is real to me. I'm at peace with that subjective. He apparently doesn't need to exist to be a friend and teacher to me.
10-30-2010, 10:22 AM
Hi Everyone,
It has been a little difficult. This subjective space I've been in is very real to me. Now, as I posted in the other thread, I'm coming down. As far as I'm aware, it wasn't my intention to force anyone to believe me. Even I have my own doubts of whether my experience is well or not. The experience took me to the point where the mind was slipping. A lot of my shared experiences taught me more about the illusion of everything. As I'm coming down now, I should be more able to handle questions. I am on medicine as well to help balance my mind/body/spirit. I still do have reasoning facilities, though my attention span is now freakishly low. For the most part, I've worked through the distortion catalyst I caused. Finally I am experiencing the structure and stability of 3D. It was illusion that I had to work through regarding the death of the 3D body. The Universe tests us in ways in line with our beliefs.
10-30-2010, 11:44 AM
From the perspective of Tarot, it would appear that you have encountered the Magician on the labyrinthine path of the progression of the Fool, and have survived. Good work.
10-30-2010, 11:49 AM
Solitary, that sounds interesting, could you go into a little more detail?
10-31-2010, 09:54 AM
(10-30-2010, 10:22 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Hi Everyone, Hi Gemini Wolf!!! I am happy for you and glad that you are in a more stable position to answer questions. I think I pretty much get your state of mind now and before. But for the benefit of everyone else, can you please elaborate- - what was your state of mind at the time of your transformational experience? - what prompted you to share that experience with this forum? - Why did you think your 3D body has died while you were still operational in 3D? - Most importantly what insights did you get from your experience? looking forward to it!!!
10-31-2010, 10:16 AM
Hi fool, I will do my best to answer these as there is still a bit of "slow wobble" in my m/b/s complex.
1) My mind went through many states. In my experience, I was working with Ra, who took me through different learnings. At one point, I was at the police station because of running around naked before I went into a mental center for a week. At one point I had to balance the STS. This was what my mind put me through as I felt I was "atoning for the sins (STS) of everyone in creation. Basically Ra took me through getting abused by police for the worst things that we perceive to be bad in creation. Basically I had to balance against these sins, and in effect, I was in "hell" for about 3 hours or so. Had to "scare" the negative STS back into balance. In that state in hell, time was slowed so I experienced all these people sometimes in slow motion. Building the galaxy from my perspective, was very draining. Had to alternate between building, and balancing. There was so much going on I can't even recall much of it. I just know it landed me in a mental health facility for a week. It was a blast there though, as I felt loved by the people there. That was where I found rest. From passing my first test to then, I had little rest in the day. The whole time was about surrendering my body to be used for a greater good. Hence me giving myself over to allow Ra to use my body when the police were handcuffing me and taking me in. It wasn't an arrest, but more to take me to the mental place after I spent the night in a solitary cell. In this cell, I was in effect "cooked" by Cosmic background radiation. Then Ra took me through finding my archetypes. Helping to find my range of acceptable emotions. 2) What prompted me to share was such a strong urge to get it out, and help with my stability. When I was in the subjective 6th density, my mind was slipping so I saw the forum as a stabilizer for my field. There also was a bit of ego in it while I was burning that part away in the fire of higher subjective densities. 3) I have ability to read the field for yes/no answers. However, the ego can bias these readings, so it's about trusting the answers. Yes feels light, no is heavier resistance. So I was asking the field if my 3rd had died, and it was giving me yes. Now that I'm back, I know it wasn't the case, but it was something I needed to believe at that time. Sometimes we don't get the truth, but more answers that play into our story. 4) Perhaps the biggest insight I can provide is the non-verbal stuff. Compacting my field almost to singularity was one understanding. Now, I'm compacting myself at a 3D anchor, or as I like to say, an anvil of 3D earth keeps me grounded. So I compact my field with this anchor. That will allow me to explore the infinite without losing my mind. Hope these answers weren't too complicated. (10-31-2010, 09:54 AM)thefool Wrote: Hi Gemini Wolf!!! I am happy for you and glad that you are in a more stable position to answer questions.
10-31-2010, 10:52 AM
Gemini wrote,
"Sometimes we don't get the truth, but more answers that play into our story." Hi Gemini, You have more control over this than you might think. Your have to set clear boundaries that you only want information that is for your highest good, and you only want the highest and most truthful information coming into your awareness. Carla talks about this when she teaches channeling, that she challenges the spirits that are giving her information, to be sure that they are in the high vibration of Christ. You mentioned that you were in a mental facility. Can I ask, are you getting ongoing professional help and support?
10-31-2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks Shemaya. Yes, I have weekly visits with a therapist. I've had one so far, and will have one coming up this week. Also will be seeing a psychiatrist to check on my meds. In all, it's working out. If during my experiences I didn't demonstrate integrity and purity of heart, I wouldn't be so happy with where I'm at. Our actions do get measured back to us.
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