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What does the black bird represent?
12-01-2010, 08:42 PM
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What does the black bird represent?
Hey gang,

The theme of a black bird (crow, raven, magpie, etc) has come up in my experience as of late and was wondering if anyone here knows of any non-specific symbolic meaning it may have, if that is possible?

Thanks all,
~L

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12-02-2010, 03:35 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Check here
http://www.whats-your-sign.com/symbolic-...birds.html
It has come up in my experience as well. It is known as the bird of witches and Odin also has two ravens, Hugin and Munin who fly across the earth and bring him news.
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12-02-2010, 04:25 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Morrigan was also said to travel in raven form right? The goddess of war, strife, and interestingly, fertility.

I think in europe Ravens were often seen as a bird of death. Because they'd be the first to feast on the remains of battles.
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12-02-2010, 08:27 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Reminds me of a song, Lavazza:

Sarah McLachlan's version Blackbird

Beatles:Blackbird

Heart The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death
of all that is alive.
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12-02-2010, 08:38 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Oh and Edgar Allan Poe's poem!

(Here performed by Omnia)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQyGWZWqKT8
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12-02-2010, 09:07 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
It is good to know what symbols mean in the collective mind, but the most important issue is what they mean to you and in what context they come to you. If you see them in meditation or if you want to use them in magic, you need to discover what that symbol evokes in yourself. If you see black birds in meditation you need to understand what feeling they evoke in you - what do you feel when you see it? If you want to use it in some magic ritual you need to go further.
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12-02-2010, 09:14 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Don Juan said that crows are messengers.
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12-02-2010, 10:04 AM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
I've always experienced the black bird as my shadow totem. I feared them because it seemed as if they were able to stare right through me and into my soul. From what I can tell in my personal experience, black birds represent wisdom, truth, and clairvoyance. The wise old raven can see through to the heart of any matter. As far as I can tell, though, animal symbols or totem usually represent aspects the individual finds appealing or fearful. Two people could see a lion in two different ways, but both interpretations could be accurate when it comes to totems, because totems are of a personal nature. Of course, this is merely my opinion.

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12-02-2010, 01:05 PM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
In what context do you see those birds, Lavazza?
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12-02-2010, 03:23 PM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Hey again friends,

Thanks for these great responses. The back story here is not too dramatic- just an interesting synchronicity for me that I assume has deeper meaning. I've recently taken up the acoustic guitar, and a friend of mine is showing me some things. In particular, the song 'Black Bird" by Paul McCartney. Yep, Shemaya guessed that one. Smile I've always loved the song, and learning to play it is very rewarding. The music is intensely beautiful and moving. Learning to play it, contrary to my expectations, does not demystify it in any way.

At the same time, I happen to be creating a crow in CG, on the computer for my work. (I work in the entertainment industry). I started the crow model a week or so before learning the song and didn't even put two and two together until a week ago or so. I'm really "in to" this project and am also really enjoying it... I presume since I am so interested in these two different although similar Black birds that my higher self is hinting at something or other.

And lo, this is a period of some transformation for me. I am learning new things which is shaping my overall personality some, much as the potter spinning his clay on the wheel might mold it into something very different with a few gestures. Also just recently began digesting some stubborn catalyst in my life by learning new information which I think will ultimately have a large positive effect in my daily experiences. If I had to sum up everything I would venture that I am blossoming right now. That doesn't seem to fit any of the offered descriptions of what the Black bird may mean, so very likely this bird is more of a personal symbolic thing, perhaps one that had greater meaning to me in previous incarnations(?) but I may only speculate in that area. The messenger idea might work- but there seems to be no message given. Except perhaps that the message and the messenger are one, or stated differently doing something is it's own reward (learning guitar, evolving spirit).

What do you guys think? And thanks for looking at this with me. Smile

By the way, Ahktu, your feeling that Ravens are looking in to you is not unwarranted. They, along with Crows and Magpies are extremely intelligent birds with surprising problem solving skills. When they look at you they aren't just blindly staring like a donkey- they are probably regarding you in their own fashion. I guess we have a way of recognizing intelligence when we see it, being intelligent ourselves.

L&L, ~L

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12-02-2010, 04:19 PM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
When you say you’re digesting stubborn catalyst.... that could suggest you’re integrating something back to you.
Perhaps the black bird is symbolic of the message hidden in the catalyst or that bit of you that was hidden that you have brought back to the light while working on stuff.

I get black birds too, I see them as a good thing Smile
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12-02-2010, 05:26 PM (This post was last modified: 12-02-2010 05:27 PM by Ankh.)
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
Then maybe you could meditate or simply lay down and relax and visualize that bird and be aware of your thoughts and feelings. Don't be scared if it something bad in the beginning, it usually change into something better later. It is possible that this bird has something to do with your work with catalyst. I had similiar kind of experience once while meditating. I started to see a big black wolf with fiercely yellow/orange eyes. It was a big, black hellhound that in the beginning frightened me, and the first time I even stoped the meditation because it felt that this beast would jump out in my physical world and attack me. After a while it turned out (I think) that the wolf was representing my "blind" instincts. Not easy to connect one with each other at first... I think that some people would call them totems, but I don't know what it was and I have not seen that wolf since the day I released it. At the end it was a big healthy beast and not a hellhound I met at first who was running in freedom in some woods... Smile
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12-02-2010, 05:32 PM
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
(12-02-2010 03:23 PM)Lavazza Wrote:  At the same time, I happen to be creating a crow in CG, on the computer for my work. (I work in the entertainment industry). I started the crow model a week or so before learning the song and didn't even put two and two together until a week ago or so. I'm really "in to" this project and am also really enjoying it... I presume since I am so interested in these two different although similar Black birds that my higher self is hinting at something or other.

Awesome! Smile If it has to be a creepy crow, look at The Morrigan She qualifies as creepy Tongue Do note the painting Wink
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12-02-2010, 09:04 PM (This post was last modified: 12-02-2010 09:10 PM by Shemaya.)
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RE: What does the black bird represent?
That's a great song!

Here's another great version:

Bobby McFerrin Blackbird

The song gives me the sense of diving into the muck of unconscious, the dark night....and emerging free and light.

I think I'm going to get a jimbay for Christmas and i'll drum alongSmile Actually, it's kind of autobiographical in a way. I am emerging after a dive into the deep, lots of energy moving with me the last month or two or three.

Heart The rhythm of my heart is the birth and death
of all that is alive.
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