Acceptance and Will
02-04-2012, 03:45 PM,
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02-28-2013, 06:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-01-2013, 02:57 PM by Monica.)
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This topic came up in another thread so I'm bumping this one.
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02-28-2013, 09:18 PM,
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Silence speaks.
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03-01-2013, 03:10 PM,
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(02-28-2013, 09:18 PM)TheEternal Wrote:  Gold is the most accepting of all metals of the will.

Please elaborate! Are you referring to wearing gold, possessing gold, using it in meditation, consuming colloidal gold, or what?
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03-01-2013, 03:25 PM,
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03-01-2013, 07:06 PM,
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Don't know if it has been mentioned before, but the aura can/does appear golden when it is perfectly balanced.
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07-20-2014, 06:58 PM,
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(04-24-2011, 10:57 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:  Your question, "How does one choose the STO path while accepting that which is not chosen?", brings this Ra quote to mind:

Quote:18.5 The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One, thus preserving the primal distortion of free will.

I have seen you point out in a post before, Monica, that when imagination is used, the brain cannot tell the difference. Perhaps this is one part of accepting that which is not chosen. "Anything goes," in our imagination, but not in the physical plane, as far as preserving our polarization goes.
"Anything goes" in the physical plane if one is accepting enough of the plane's interaction inherently to where one will not act against another naturally without suppression of the self.
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04-07-2015, 11:43 AM,
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(04-24-2011, 10:21 PM)Monica Wrote:  Acceptance is a core tenet of the Law of One.

But, what exactly is acceptance?



Quote:52.7 Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming that discipline of the personality, knowledge of self, and control in strengthening of the will would be what any fifth-density entity would see as those things of importance?
Ra: I am Ra. In actuality these things are of importance in third through early seventh densities. The only correction in nuance that we would make is your use of the word, control. It is paramount that it be understood that it is not desirable or helpful to the growth of the understanding, may we say, of an entity by itself to control thought processes or impulses except where they may result in actions not consonant with the Law of One. Control may seem to be a short-cut to discipline, peace, and illumination. However, this very control potentiates and necessitates the further incarnative experience in order to balance this control or repression of that self which is perfect.

Instead, we appreciate and recommend the use of your second verb in regard to the use of the will. Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality. Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance. Thus it must be carefully used and directed in service-to-others for those upon the positively oriented path.

There is great danger in the use of the will as the personality becomes stronger, for it may be used even subconsciously in ways reducing the polarity of the entity.

Meditating on this Ra quote really helped me to clarify some things about the self, but even about existence in general.

I first started making a list of what I needed to accept about myself. But going to bed helped give me the chance to think a little bit more deeply about it. I asked myself, what is at the root of acceptance and forgiveness of self? And I came to realize that the self, with all of its supposed flaws, is perfect in its own way. In other words, that the self is not imperfect, just different.

And then I started to realize that, well if self and other-self are the same, then everything, and everyone, is perfect in its own way. This can even be applied to 3rd density. To the average person here in 3rd density, we see a lot of things that are wrong here, such as pain, cruelty and even boredom. But if we realize that these things are merely lessons to be learned from, then we see that even 3rd density is perfect in its own way.

This was a major realization for me. I'm glad for this thread. Big Grin
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04-07-2015, 11:48 AM,
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Boredom is major for me.

There is an anthro somewhere who needs me and I need them.
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04-07-2015, 11:54 AM,
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(04-07-2015, 11:48 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:  Boredom is major for me.

More than cruelty and pain, huh? Haha. You're funny, GW.
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04-07-2015, 06:13 PM,
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For me, one of my big lessons is accepting myself while still accepting others. For a long time I have accepted others without accepting myself.
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04-07-2015, 11:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2015, 11:29 PM by Elros.)
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(04-07-2015, 11:43 AM)Lighthead Wrote:  Meditating on this Ra quote really helped me to clarify some things about the self, but even about existence in general.

I first started making a list of what I needed to accept about myself. But going to bed helped give me the chance to think a little bit more deeply about it. I asked myself, what is at the root of acceptance and forgiveness of self? And I came to realize that the self, with all of its supposed flaws, is perfect in its own way. In other words, that the self is not imperfect, just different.

And then I started to realize that, well if self and other-self are the same, then everything, and everyone, is perfect in its own way. This can even be applied to 3rd density. To the average person here in 3rd density, we see a lot of things that are wrong here, such as pain, cruelty and even boredom. But if we realize that these things are merely lessons to be learned from, then we see that even 3rd density is perfect in its own way.

This was a major realization for me. I'm glad for this thread. Big Grin

I've been trying to say this in another thread with this exact quote. I think that is why 7D is awareness that polarity is an illusion, whatever the density, whatever the experiences, whatever the polarity, you are always playing your role just as others are other-you playing another of your roles. 7D seems where you stop trying to polarize Creation (as you've fufilled all your desires concerning that) and let others play the polarity games to bring further experiences to infinity until they reach 7D themselves and continue the cycles.

I think this quote is very insightful about these things : 

Quote:Thoth tablet : The Key to Above and Bellow

The consciousness below thee is ever-expanding 
in different ways from those known to thee. 
Aye, it, though in space-time below thee, 
is ever growing in ways that are different from 
those that were part of the ways of thine own. 
For know that it grows as a result of thy growth
but not in the same way that thou didst grow. 
The growth that thou had and have in the present 
have brought into being a cause and effect. 
No consciousness follows the path of those before it, 
else all would be repetition and vain. 
Each consciousness in the cycle it exists in 
follows its own path to the ultimate goal. 
Each plays its part in the Plan of the Cosmos. 
Each plays its part in the ultimate end. 
The farther the cycle, the greater its 
knowledge and ability to blend the Law of the whole.

In the idea of infinity, acceptance of all the potentials the mind can think of is required for a balanced union with what is seen of infinity
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04-07-2015, 11:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2015, 11:45 PM by Lighthead.)
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(04-07-2015, 11:26 PM)Minyatur Wrote:  
(04-07-2015, 11:43 AM)Lighthead Wrote:  Meditating on this Ra quote really helped me to clarify some things about the self, but even about existence in general.

I first started making a list of what I needed to accept about myself. But going to bed helped give me the chance to think a little bit more deeply about it. I asked myself, what is at the root of acceptance and forgiveness of self? And I came to realize that the self, with all of its supposed flaws, is perfect in its own way. In other words, that the self is not imperfect, just different.

And then I started to realize that, well if self and other-self are the same, then everything, and everyone, is perfect in its own way. This can even be applied to 3rd density. To the average person here in 3rd density, we see a lot of things that are wrong here, such as pain, cruelty and even boredom. But if we realize that these things are merely lessons to be learned from, then we see that even 3rd density is perfect in its own way.

This was a major realization for me. I'm glad for this thread. Big Grin

I've been trying to say this in another thread with this exact quote. I think that is why 7D is awareness that polarity is an illusion, whatever the density, whatever the experiences, whatever the polarity, you are always playing your role just as others are other-you playing another of your roles. 7D seems where you stop trying to polarize Creation (as you've fufilled all your desires concerning that) and let others play the polarity games to bring further experiences to infinity until they reach 7D themselves and continue the cycles.

Do you feel like a major part of the path to 7D is acknowledging the that the seeming imperfection around us is really just perfection in its own way? I like the idea that while 3rd density is full of a lot of seeming injustices, these obstacles are here to learn from them, to help us grow, and to help others grow.

I remember seeing this quote from Q'uo that could be relevant. Let me see if I can find it.  Let me preface it by saying that to be able to overcome those obstacles, learn and teach we have to learn to straddle the fence. It doesn't seem relevant to what I'm saying, but if you look deeply, you'll see that it does jibe with what I'm saying:

Quote:Aaron: You are like actors in a play. When you come out onto the stage, if you look to the audience and say, “Oh, this is only a play. It doesn’t matter,” the audience is not going to get much from your lines offered with no sincerity. If you become so involved in the illusion of the play that you forget that it is a play, forget that there is an audience out there, you may turn your back to the audience or speak too softly for them to hear. The good actor must live its lines convincingly—live them, be them—while being fully aware simultaneously that this is a play, that when it walks offstage it no longer is the identity of that character. This is how the audience learns from a play. And you also are the audience, both actor and audience.


This is what your life asks of you: to live the illusion as full-heartedly as you can while still knowing this is illusion. Herein is the intersection of relative and ultimate reality, the intersection of the cross. You have one foot in relative reality, one foot in ultimate reality, and there is no separation between them. Some of you have understood that you have one foot on each side of this threshold, but you feel as if there were a wall, an infinite wall, dividing relative and ultimate reality so that you may only experience one at a time. It is very hard work to learn to blend them, to bring compassion and wisdom together. But that is what you are here to learn to do.

L/L Research Transcripts: Sep. 25th, 1993.
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04-08-2015, 12:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-08-2015, 12:19 AM by Elros.)
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(04-07-2015, 11:44 PM)Lighthead Wrote:  
(04-07-2015, 11:26 PM)Minyatur Wrote:  
(04-07-2015, 11:43 AM)Lighthead Wrote:  Meditating on this Ra quote really helped me to clarify some things about the self, but even about existence in general.

I first started making a list of what I needed to accept about myself. But going to bed helped give me the chance to think a little bit more deeply about it. I asked myself, what is at the root of acceptance and forgiveness of self? And I came to realize that the self, with all of its supposed flaws, is perfect in its own way. In other words, that the self is not imperfect, just different.

And then I started to realize that, well if self and other-self are the same, then everything, and everyone, is perfect in its own way. This can even be applied to 3rd density. To the average person here in 3rd density, we see a lot of things that are wrong here, such as pain, cruelty and even boredom. But if we realize that these things are merely lessons to be learned from, then we see that even 3rd density is perfect in its own way.

This was a major realization for me. I'm glad for this thread. Big Grin

I've been trying to say this in another thread with this exact quote. I think that is why 7D is awareness that polarity is an illusion, whatever the density, whatever the experiences, whatever the polarity, you are always playing your role just as others are other-you playing another of your roles. 7D seems where you stop trying to polarize Creation (as you've fufilled all your desires concerning that) and let others play the polarity games to bring further experiences to infinity until they reach 7D themselves and continue the cycles.

Do you feel like a major part of the path to 7D is acknowledging the that the seeming imperfection around us is really just perfection in its own way? I like the idea that while 3rd density is full of a lot of seeming injustices, these obstacles are here to learn from them, to help us grow, and to help others grow.

I remember seeing this quote from Q'uo that could be relevant. Let me see if I can find it.  Let me preface it by saying that to be able to overcome those obstacles, learn and teach we have to learn to straddle the fence. It doesn't seem relevant to what I'm saying, but if you look deeply, you'll see that it does jibe with what I'm saying:


Quote:Aaron: You are like actors in a play. When you come out onto the stage, if you look to the audience and say, “Oh, this is only a play. It doesn’t matter,” the audience is not going to get much from your lines offered with no sincerity. If you become so involved in the illusion of the play that you forget that it is a play, forget that there is an audience out there, you may turn your back to the audience or speak too softly for them to hear. The good actor must live its lines convincingly—live them, be them—while being fully aware simultaneously that this is a play, that when it walks offstage it no longer is the identity of that character. This is how the audience learns from a play. And you also are the audience, both actor and audience.


This is what your life asks of you: to live the illusion as full-heartedly as you can while still knowing this is illusion. Herein is the intersection of relative and ultimate reality, the intersection of the cross. You have one foot in relative reality, one foot in ultimate reality, and there is no separation between them. Some of you have understood that you have one foot on each side of this threshold, but you feel as if there were a wall, an infinite wall, dividing relative and ultimate reality so that you may only experience one at a time. It is very hard work to learn to blend them, to bring compassion and wisdom together. But that is what you are here to learn to do.

L/L Research Transcripts: Sep. 25th, 1993.

What you said is exactly what I do believe and also the main reason why I think most wanderers are of 6D. To work on imbalances that permits them not to perceive the constant perfection of Creation.

What did you think about the part I quoted from the thoth tablet? I do like the implication that our ways of being cannot be repeated and that it does bring a cause-effect consequence for the consciousness bellow us to follow different paths of experiences that were our owns. From this perspective many many souls trying to be the most positively polarized will take up these paths fuller of light and leave darker paths for other souls to follow as a consequence. In this sense we are equally responsible for the state of the whole as more harmonious worlds leave place afterwards for less harmonious worlds in example.

The last 2 lines also states that the farther the cycle, the greater the ability to blend the Law of the whole, that is exactly how I picture this 3D planet. It does seem pretty bad but does provide so much catalysts that will be used in 4D to better understand love. Perpetual spiritual childhood makes people unawarely play so many different roles that are most likely often contradictory to each others. Aren't we here ourselves to benifit from it?

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04-08-2015, 01:08 AM,
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(04-08-2015, 12:17 AM)Minyatur Wrote:  What did you think about the part I quoted from the thoth tablet? I do like the implication that our ways of being cannot be repeated and that it does bring a cause-effect consequence for the consciousness bellow us to follow different paths of experiences that were our owns. From this perspective many many souls trying to be the most positively polarized will take up these paths fuller of light and leave darker paths for other souls to follow as a consequence. In this sense we are equally responsible for the state of the whole as more harmonious worlds leave place afterwards for less harmonious worlds in example.

The last 2 lines also states that the farther the cycle, the greater the ability to blend the Law of the whole, that is exactly how I picture this 3D planet. It does seem pretty bad but does provide so much catalysts that will be used in 4D to better understand love. Perpetual spiritual childhood makes people unawarely play so many different roles that are most likely often contradictory to each others. Aren't we here ourselves to benifit from it?

Is there perhaps a plain English version? I don't want to sound unsophisticated, but the thees and thous sort of confuse me. I have a hard time trying to think deeply about it. If you could maybe find a simpler version for a dodo head like me to understand Tongue , maybe I could give you some feedback about it, and what you just said.
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04-08-2015, 01:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-08-2015, 01:43 AM by Elros.)
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(04-08-2015, 01:08 AM)Lighthead Wrote:  
(04-08-2015, 12:17 AM)Minyatur Wrote:  What did you think about the part I quoted from the thoth tablet? I do like the implication that our ways of being cannot be repeated and that it does bring a cause-effect consequence for the consciousness bellow us to follow different paths of experiences that were our owns. From this perspective many many souls trying to be the most positively polarized will take up these paths fuller of light and leave darker paths for other souls to follow as a consequence. In this sense we are equally responsible for the state of the whole as more harmonious worlds leave place afterwards for less harmonious worlds in example.

The last 2 lines also states that the farther the cycle, the greater the ability to blend the Law of the whole, that is exactly how I picture this 3D planet. It does seem pretty bad but does provide so much catalysts that will be used in 4D to better understand love. Perpetual spiritual childhood makes people unawarely play so many different roles that are most likely often contradictory to each others. Aren't we here ourselves to benifit from it?

Is there perhaps a plain English version? I don't want to sound unsophisticated, but the thees and thous sort of confuse me. I have a hard time trying to think deeply about it. If you could maybe find a simpler version for a dodo head like me to understand Tongue , maybe I could give you some feedback about it, and what you just said.

Haha, I've read the old testament in old english which was my father's because I did not have a french version at home a few years back. Got to admit it takes a little while to get used to.

I've remolded it a bit : 


Quote:The consciousness below you is ever-expanding in different ways from those known to you. Know it that space-time below you is ever growing in ways that are different from those that were part of the ways of your own. For know that it grows as a result of your own growth but not in the same way that you did grow. 

The growth that you had and have in the present have brought into being a cause and effect. No consciousness follows the path of those before it, else all would be repetition and vain. 

Each consciousness in the cycle it exists in follows its own path to the ultimate goal. Each plays its part in the Plan of the Cosmos. Each plays its part in the ultimate end. 

The farther the cycle, the greater its knowledge and ability to blend the Law of the whole.

After re-reading I might have misinterpreted the last part. Not sure if it's the farther in time or farther in densities.

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04-08-2015, 08:00 PM,
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(04-08-2015, 01:40 AM)Minyatur Wrote:  
(04-08-2015, 01:08 AM)Lighthead Wrote:  
(04-08-2015, 12:17 AM)Minyatur Wrote:  What did you think about the part I quoted from the thoth tablet? I do like the implication that our ways of being cannot be repeated and that it does bring a cause-effect consequence for the consciousness bellow us to follow different paths of experiences that were our owns. From this perspective many many souls trying to be the most positively polarized will take up these paths fuller of light and leave darker paths for other souls to follow as a consequence. In this sense we are equally responsible for the state of the whole as more harmonious worlds leave place afterwards for less harmonious worlds in example.

The last 2 lines also states that the farther the cycle, the greater the ability to blend the Law of the whole, that is exactly how I picture this 3D planet. It does seem pretty bad but does provide so much catalysts that will be used in 4D to better understand love. Perpetual spiritual childhood makes people unawarely play so many different roles that are most likely often contradictory to each others. Aren't we here ourselves to benifit from it?

Is there perhaps a plain English version? I don't want to sound unsophisticated, but the thees and thous sort of confuse me. I have a hard time trying to think deeply about it. If you could maybe find a simpler version for a dodo head like me to understand Tongue , maybe I could give you some feedback about it, and what you just said.

Haha, I've read the old testament in old english which was my father's because I did not have a french version at home a few years back. Got to admit it takes a little while to get used to.

I've remolded it a bit : 



Quote:The consciousness below you is ever-expanding in different ways from those known to you. Know it that space-time below you is ever growing in ways that are different from those that were part of the ways of your own. For know that it grows as a result of your own growth but not in the same way that you did grow. 

The growth that you had and have in the present have brought into being a cause and effect. No consciousness follows the path of those before it, else all would be repetition and vain. 

Each consciousness in the cycle it exists in follows its own path to the ultimate goal. Each plays its part in the Plan of the Cosmos. Each plays its part in the ultimate end. 

The farther the cycle, the greater its knowledge and ability to blend the Law of the whole.

After re-reading I might have misinterpreted the last part. Not sure if it's the farther in time or farther in densities.

My first impression when reading the way you've reworded it and when reviewing what you've commented about it is that it's all about evolution. But not only is it about evolution, but the end result is a much different "product" then what came before. And there's also more "knowledge and ability" to work with when it's all finished. Tell me if I'm right, but I think that that's an interesting text, and a good insight into it.
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04-09-2015, 02:13 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-09-2015, 02:19 AM by Elros.)
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(04-08-2015, 08:00 PM)Lighthead Wrote:  
(04-08-2015, 01:40 AM)Minyatur Wrote:  Haha, I've read the old testament in old english which was my father's because I did not have a french version at home a few years back. Got to admit it takes a little while to get used to.


I've remolded it a bit : 


Quote:The consciousness below you is ever-expanding in different ways from those known to you. Know it that space-time below you is ever growing in ways that are different from those that were part of the ways of your own. For know that it grows as a result of your own growth but not in the same way that you did grow. 

The growth that you had and have in the present have brought into being a cause and effect. No consciousness follows the path of those before it, else all would be repetition and vain. 

Each consciousness in the cycle it exists in follows its own path to the ultimate goal. Each plays its part in the Plan of the Cosmos. Each plays its part in the ultimate end. 

The farther the cycle, the greater its knowledge and ability to blend the Law of the whole.

After re-reading I might have misinterpreted the last part. Not sure if it's the farther in time or farther in densities.

My first impression when reading the way you've reworded it and when reviewing what you've commented about it is that it's all about evolution. But not only is it about evolution, but the end result is a much different "product" then what came before. And there's also more "knowledge and ability" to work with when it's all finished. Tell me if I'm right, but I think that that's an interesting text, and a good insight into it.

That's how I perceive it, it describes what it means for the One Intelligent Infinity to explore many-ness as everyone of us from before and after.

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04-09-2015, 07:47 PM,
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Yup and eluciadates on the great mystery.
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11-10-2015, 03:26 PM,
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I think the concept of Acceptance is probably the most misunderstood concept in the Law of One. Well right up there with polarity anyway.

Related thread:

Bring4th Studies > Strictly Law of One Material v > The Ways of Acceptance (alternative reading of 'STO')

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(04-24-2011, 10:21 PM)Monica Wrote:  Acceptance is a core tenet of the Law of One.

But, what exactly is acceptance?


Quote:46.7 ...Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst.

46.8 Questioner: Then as I understand it you are saying that if the positively polarizing entity fails to accept the other-self or if the negatively polarizing entity fails to control the other-self, either of these conditions will cause cancer, possibly. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. The first acceptance, or control depending upon polarity, is of the self. Anger is one of many things to be accepted and loved as a part of self or controlled as a part of self, if the entity is to do work.

52.7 Questioner: Am I correct, then, in assuming that discipline of the personality, knowledge of self, and control in strengthening of the will would be what any fifth-density entity would see as those things of importance?
Ra: I am Ra. In actuality these things are of importance in third through early seventh densities. The only correction in nuance that we would make is your use of the word, control. It is paramount that it be understood that it is not desirable or helpful to the growth of the understanding, may we say, of an entity by itself to control thought processes or impulses except where they may result in actions not consonant with the Law of One. Control may seem to be a short-cut to discipline, peace, and illumination. However, this very control potentiates and necessitates the further incarnative experience in order to balance this control or repression of that self which is perfect.

Instead, we appreciate and recommend the use of your second verb in regard to the use of the will. Acceptance of self, forgiveness of self, and the direction of the will; this is the path towards the disciplined personality. Your faculty of will is that which is powerful within you as co-Creator. You cannot ascribe to this faculty too much importance. Thus it must be carefully used and directed in service-to-others for those upon the positively oriented path.

There is great danger in the use of the will as the personality becomes stronger, for it may be used even subconsciously in ways reducing the polarity of the entity.

Acceptance is often misunderstood and viewed as an 'anything goes' attitude. We know from Ra that this is the density of Choice, and, as indicated in bold above, will not only comes into play also, but is of paramount importance.

How, then, are will and acceptance reconciled? How does one choose the STO path while accepting that which is not chosen?

In my own opinion, acceptance and control, are inverse effects from not being able to ever understand from this position. You come to accept what little perfection and love you can channel of Creator, and the only utterance of understanding posited by acceptance, is that of The Ones Will. However it's not really understanding as much as......apparent.
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