09-28-2011, 08:53 PM
(09-28-2011, 08:28 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:(09-27-2011, 10:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-25-2011, 10:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Part of the reason I take this view is because of the fluctuating stages of one's valuing system. I don't think this system has a 'development' to it. I think there is integration, of course, but I don't see any 'levels' where one's ability to integrate any experience is higher than another's ability to integrate any experience.Depends on the nature of the experience and the nature of the integration. From one level of experience it is not even possible to perceive another level, so the very opportunity does not exist. The fact that the opportunity does exist, at a later point, after some growth (often involving effort and acceptance) does demonstate that there is a development occuring. Such development has defined stages within a density and accross the densities.
Again, I don't think there are 'levels' or 'development'. I think there is only circumstance. Seeing one entity's circumstance as time oriented, development over moments of time, or accumulated experience that is broader than previously known is what I call a personal bias that contributes to one's sense of 'accomplishment.' In the end, growth itself is an illusion. IMO.
Yes, everything is an illusion. This would include any ability, perspective, opportunity, etc. The newborn baby and the world leader, both equally effective in the end. Yes. Meanwhile, the principles of this density and our reflection in it are capable of becoming known. The ability to aid others is increased with consciousness. Whether or not one has a sense of accomplishment or takes any stock whatsoever is irrelevant. In the end it is done. But now is not the end, otherwise you would not be here. One can waste time learning slowly or accelerate the process by bothering to accept.
Consider then, that if there is only circumstance, we have relative abilities to introduce particular circumstances which are, in fact, the result of development.
(09-28-2011, 08:28 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:To be learning something is what happens when you do not ignore catalyst.(09-27-2011, 10:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-25-2011, 10:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I understand what you are saying, zenmaster. I believe that this 'taste' is only a particular flavor that some minds find comfort in. Ultimately, I think that this comfort level is the bait for such thinkers. Sure, it creates a more 'comfortable' society within the like minded, but I find the idea riddled with pitfalls and oxymoron.Whether or not someone find comfort in their 'taste' is sort of irrelevant isn't it? What is important is learning something.
What I'm saying is that people develop 'taste', as you put it. "To be learning something" is a flavor.
(09-28-2011, 08:28 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Why is it important to be learning something?
One person thinks it good and relevant. One person thinks it a waste of time. Both end up at a new circumstantial surrounding daily... and then death.
The new circumstance is what has been graciously provided for the purpose of learning. Sure, the opportunity can be ignored as well and by so doing we offer that much less to ourselves, society, and the creator.
"To teach/learn is the Law of One in one of its most elementary distortions."
"We, of Ra, are humble messengers of the Law of One. We seek to teach/learn this single law."
"To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. "
(09-28-2011, 08:28 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:Yes. And they will influence us, determine how we will live, unless and until we subsume their purpose.(09-27-2011, 10:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-25-2011, 10:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: An example of how I make sense of "racial mind":We get upset when our projections fail. Some projections are reinforced more than others by the epitomization effect you have noticed. That epitomization effect is a powerful thing, incidentally, as Ra says it can actually manifest thought forms for those wishing them.
When a single man/mind, for some reason or another, has a choice to make that receives a viewer focus of multiple persons/minds, he becomes the epitome of the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility". At this point, his choice becomes an example of leadership simply due to the fact that multiple persons have decided to be willingly 'infected'. This is how a 'noble man' and an 'evil man' receive these monikers. This also has something to do with why we get so upset with politics and also with conspiracies- we see that some people try to fabricate moments where their choice will obtain multiple viewer focus. The fabrication appalls us.
And that is the way our world works. That is third density. These thought forms are constantly and consistently created whether we THINK we have "mastered" them or not. This is US.
(09-28-2011, 08:28 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:Of course. There are differences in the quality and magnitude of these changes as well, depending on how consciousness is directed. We can wait for something to manifest in a random manner, merely subsisting underneath the love or indulgence of another, or we can have a more honorable approach and more directly participate with the process and create it. The end is change.(09-27-2011, 10:27 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-25-2011, 10:05 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: On the other hand, a true, natural moment when a person, based on sheer synchronicity and coincidence, obtains multiple viewer focus, and love/light manifests naturally- this scenario is what truly effects our "racial mind" and the one that sticks with society longer.The racial mind is sort of timeless. It's basically something that collects a potential, just as an individual would over lifetimes. Just what we draw from it is more a manifestation of a particular aspect of it - from just those 'questions' we're currently asking - than what it inherently is. Synchronicity is literally the same process except there is some recognition of the process due to more consciousness being available surrounding 'the question'.
Conscious or unconscious, we put it out there, and circumstances continue manifesting. The end is change.