10-13-2011, 02:28 PM
(10-13-2011, 09:31 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-13-2011, 08:29 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:An example would be?(10-12-2011, 08:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Ditto, zenmaster. Ditto.(10-12-2011, 07:41 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:"Sold as"? Regardless of actual intention or meaning, as you are artificially assigning the context of intention and meaning for both parties involved - speaker and listeners, you have set a stage for the dynamic required for your (contrived) circle idea.(10-11-2011, 10:45 PM)zenmaster Wrote: What was that?
Anything but iamness.
"everything else is a modification, a ripple, and a rising
and
suffering and bondage is the misidentification of i-am-ness with an object
you identify with yourself your ego and your body
and that just is the world of objects they come they stay a bit they torture you and they leave"
Ah, torture, suffering and bondage. Who wants that in their life, right? If I could just learn how to properly identify iamness....
Are you saying Wilber's show that day was sold as "this is just a show for your entertainment and nothing more"? If not, it was purported to be something else. The answer to life, maybe? The magic elixir to overcome torture, maybe? The eternal existence of your beingness explained, maybe?
right here
Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung