12-29-2011, 12:29 PM
The majority of it does appear to revolve around that center. The effect when it reaches the second center would compound the situation.
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12-29-2011, 12:29 PM
The majority of it does appear to revolve around that center. The effect when it reaches the second center would compound the situation.
12-31-2011, 05:13 PM
I have no place to speak here but I am a healer and so I speak.
Two things stand out and should be seen by all as a great lesson. First of all, it seems that we have observed the mentality of the mob and how quickly it can be directed and manipulated. If anything THAT would be what David would want you all to take away from this experience. A man teaches that we are to take control of our own powers, and how important it is to love and become One with the All, realizing our own divinity within the cosmos. He teaches us that those who follow the path of self service use fear as a weapon against our ability to accomplish that which I just stated. And what happens to us when that teaching is attacked? Like ignorant cattle we turn in whatever direction we are led and begin to feed the hunger of the self servers. We instantly offer ourselves up like branded cattle. Secondly, would a man who has devoted himself to teaching us NOT to be fearful deliberately create a situation where fear becomes the main course of the gathering? How quickly we forget our priorities. Would it not be more beneficial to focus on the emotional state of a man that we claim to love and respect, while at the same time honoring his teaching during the situation? Would that not be what you would expect of us if you were he? I would be more inclined to think that a man under such intense pressure and stress to reach out to a world of confusion, would certainly be a ticking time bomb of emotion. Deadlines, finances, personal and peer pressure must all take their toll on a person of his place and status. Who among you would fare any better or expect more? Who among you would dare to ask more? Who among you would change places given the circumstances? I see here the average nature of humanity revealing itself. It is nothing new. It is nothing that David would not already be aware of and even expecting. No intelligent man would expect to stand up in a crowd of naysayers and cry out yay, and not be prepared for retaliation. However it is one thing to preach a message and another to try to live it. And we should all know this. Teaching that fear is not beneficial, and than trying not to be afraid when you are confronted with threat, is much like trying to rub your belly and tap your head. It is unnatural to us. But that does not mean that the teaching behind it is not sound. It is also very natural for us to live in the flesh, and we could even become like the animals if we so chose. The goal is in climbing higher than what is now natural, and attempt to acquire a new and higher nature. And yet when the wolf howls, and the pack runs along the edge of the herd to lead it to the place of feasting, we immediately fall prey, not to the predator, but to our own flesh. This is the true danger that David would want you to learn from this experience, and the last thing that he would want is for us to all succumb to a fear of conspiracies and threats. We should remember what he teaches, and not how he manages his own personal experiences. That is how we would honor a man like that, when he is caught up in the midst of personal disaster. Let us gather together as the One Consciousness and use our energies to assist him based upon his teachings, and be the Light that he has shown us that we are, instead of reacting to his naturally human responses to difficulty. What has been revealed here, should it have been nothing more than a test by our teacher to see if we would respond according to his teaching or not, would have been a massive failure. The lesson is how easily people who have been so enlightened can so quickly be turned back toward darkness. Balance is the key. It is always about balance. There will always be the left hand path and the right hand path and the agendas of the self serving, just as there will always be light and dark. How we learn to balance those polarities is the key to the human finding harmony and peace, both as individuals, and as a species. Continue to react to a conspiracy, or walk as the teacher has taught you, despite how he himself manages that walk. Which is more important to you, the teaching or the ability of the teacher to practice what he preaches and deal with his own personal affirmities? Is he not human just as you are? Is his teaching sound?
01-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Shin'Ar, your thinking is much the same as mine from the moment I started reading about David. I just dismissed some of the more colorful language as him being a person prone to getting overly excited (such as I am sometimes). I also find your words most valuable reminder not to get "too" caught up in the planetary game. I do think we should beware things that might censor these very words / this forum. But I am not allowing enough time for myself to meditate / contemplate what I have learned... I have been too busy frantically trying to get caught up so I know whats going on.
As for whether he practices what he preaches or not: I try to cut through those sorts of things to the core issue in a no-nonsense fashion. I just see it as "in the heat of the moment" speech that I have no problem ignoring. So if someone sounds overly enthusiastic about something, but what (s)he is trying to teach sounds logical and plausible, I try to take that sort of information with a grain of salt, but don't discount it entirely or try to forget about it. It just gets filed away as another possibility/probability matrix, that I may or may not choose to plan around based on the particular case. Unless of course that person is a career STS manipulator / sociopath, but I have a knack for spotting them, so I do not fear them. David is trying to be STO, in my opinion (as opposed to just a STS in disguise drumming up false conspiracy for fear/money/power.) I do know however that anyone like that (myself included), is capable of losing sight of his/her goals and polarizing towards the negative in some way if we aren't careful to use discernment always when reading something like the story this thread was based on.
01-02-2012, 10:09 AM
We are not here to judge how our teachers deal with adversity in their flesh. We are here to learn what they have to teach us about conquering our own.
A teacher can stand at the portal to higher being and show us all the way to go through, without having ever stepped through it themselves. In comparison many have already stepped through and returned to assist us, once again sacrificing themselves to the toils of the flesh. It is not our place to judge or compare, it is simply our place to learn.
01-02-2012, 10:24 PM
(01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: It is not our place to judge or compare, it is simply our place to learn.Learning requires judgement and comparison. These processes sort of provide balance to our intuition. Intuition really can't do much without experience backing it up. So the evaluation creates experience, and that experience is then used to guide intuition.
01-02-2012, 11:16 PM
(01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: We are not here to judge how our teachers deal with adversity in their flesh. We are here to learn what they have to teach us about conquering our own. I don't consider anyone exclusively a teacher. 'Teachers' are also students, and students are also teachers. Even Ra, a race millions of years ahead of us, stated that they learn as well as teach, when interacting with us. (01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: A teacher can stand at the portal to higher being and show us all the way to go through, without having ever stepped through it themselves. I'm not sure about that. I think they would need to have actually done it, for any attempt to show the way to be effective. It rarely works to say, "Do as I say not as I do." Much more effective to show the way, than to speak of the way. (01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: In comparison many have already stepped through and returned to assist us, once again sacrificing themselves to the toils of the flesh. In that case, they will speak with conviction, rather than as theory, and their words will carry more weight. (01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: It is not our place to judge or compare, it is simply our place to learn. Agreed. But I don't think it's healthy to ever put any 'teacher' on a pedestal or make them an authority over our own discernment. (NOT saying you're doing that...I'm just generalizing.) (01-02-2012, 10:24 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: It is not our place to judge or compare, it is simply our place to learn.Learning requires judgement and comparison. These processes sort of provide balance to our intuition. Intuition really can't do much without experience backing it up. So the evaluation creates experience, and that experience is then used to guide intuition. That which you speak of is thinking with the brain, my friend Zen. What will you do when you no longer exist in the flesh? Do you believe that you will have no means of learning or experiencing without that fleshy organ you trust so preciously? (01-02-2012, 11:16 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: It rarely works to say, "Do as I say not as I do." Much more effective to show the way, than to speak of the way. Monica, When the lava flows and you know the passageway that will lead your brethren to safety, do you remain behind and show as many the way through as you can, or do you say follow me and just hope that many will follow? This is not about the integrity of the teacher, nor the naivety of the throng. It is simply about showing the Way. The Design will do the rest, not the teaching or the teacher. (01-02-2012, 10:24 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Learning requires judgement and comparison. These processes sort of provide balance to our intuition. Intuition really can't do much without experience backing it up. So the evaluation creates experience, and that experience is then used to guide intuition. That which you speak of is thinking with the brain, my friend Zen. What will you do when you no longer exist in the flesh? Do you believe that you will have no means of learning or experiencing without that fleshy organ you trust so preciously? Zen, That which you speak of is thinking with the brain. What will you do when you no longer exist in the flesh? Do you believe that you will have no means of learning or experiencing without that fleshy organ you trust so preciously? Mod note: Post edited to fix quotes.
01-03-2012, 06:31 AM
(01-02-2012, 10:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: We are not here to judge how our teachers deal with adversity in their flesh. We are here to learn what they have to teach us about conquering our own. According to the Law of One, taught/learned by the Ra social memory complex, the so called "flesh", or mind/body complex I guess it would translate to, is not to be conquered, if one wants to polarise in service to others, but to be experienced, understood, accepted and loved. Conquer is something that negative beings do.
01-03-2012, 08:13 AM
Ankh,
The conquering is only negative if you attempt to defeat a thing. The victory of which I speak is achieving a balance between the two in which one moves forward from being more spiritual than flesh. To head in the direction of the Light, more than the direction of the darkness. the experience is too be had for the sake of the All, and the experience is to move forward to our true goal and fulfillment of our true design. The negative energies would have us remain in the stalemate under the guise of balance. the extreme center where growth and movement ceases is as extreme as either opposite. What you have spoken is a misinterpretation of the teaching of Ra. But you already know this. Zen, That which you speak of is thinking with the brain, my friend Zen. What will you do when you no longer exist in the flesh? Do you believe that you will have no means of learning or experiencing without that fleshy organ you trust so preciously? Let us remember the teachings of Thoth, the portal is an escape from the darkness. We will not be wearing our flesh through the Astral gate. Monica, When the lava flows and you know the passageway that will lead your brethren to safety, do you remain behind and show as many the way through as you can, or do you say follow me and just hope that many will follow? This is not about the integrity of the teacher, nor the naivety of the throng. It is simply about showing the Way. The Design will do the rest, not the teaching or the teacher. Although I am not surprised that there are factors here that are confused about polarization, it still disturbs me that even in the face of clear and precise discussion words are so quickly twisted.
01-03-2012, 09:46 AM
(01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Ankh, It was your choice of word conquer. I repeat what you have said: Shin'Ar Wrote:We are here to learn what they have to teach us about conquering our own. I was responding to that quote, by saying, I repeat: Ankh Wrote:According to the Law of One, taught/learned by the Ra social memory complex, the so called "flesh", or mind/body complex I guess it would translate to, is not to be conquered, if one wants to polarise in service to others, but to be experienced, understood, accepted and loved. Conquer is something that negative beings do. Shin'Ar Wrote:To head in the direction of the Light, more than the direction of the darkness. the experience is too be had for the sake of the All, and the experience is to move forward to our true goal and fulfillment of our true design. This is where the acceptance of the self, which contains all things, comes in, and the faculty of will comes into a play, to carefully be used to direct the entity into the direction of service to others, if chosen. I can provide the necessary quotes from the material, if it will be required. Shin'Ar Wrote:What you have spoken is a misinterpretation of the teaching of Ra. But you already know this. No, I did not know that stating that conquer is the tool of negative beings, and the experience, understanding, acceptance and love is the tool of the positive beings, was a misinterpretation of the teaching/learnings of Ra. On contrary, I do not only see it as misinterpretation, but as a commonly accepted understanding of those who attempt to learn/teach the Law of One, given by those of Ra. However, I am not claiming to be any kind of teacher/learner here, especially when it comes to the advanced studies of the Law of One, thus not stating that I know it all.
Shin'Ar - people here (usually) do not deliberately twist one's words; they apply their own understanding to the words offered by another. That understanding is entirely subjective in terms of language syntax/semantics, in turn built upon personal belief systems.
It's a natural part of third density distortion and a key element of teach/learning. This is not the density of understanding, after all :¬)
01-03-2012, 10:49 AM
(01-03-2012, 09:46 AM)Ankh Wrote: No, I did not know that stating that conquer is the tool of negative beings, and the experience, understanding, acceptance and love is the tool of the positive beings, was a misinterpretation of the teaching/learnings of Ra. On contrary, I do not only see it as misinterpretation, but as a commonly accepted understanding of those who attempt to learn/teach the Law of One, given by those of Ra. However, I am not claiming to be any kind of teacher/learner here, especially when it comes to the advanced studies of the Law of One, thus not stating that I know it all. I basically agree with you, Ankh, but there is one use of "conquer" in a positive sense in the material: Quote:79.40 Questioner: Would the Conqueror or Chariot then represent the culmination of the action of the first six archetypes into a conquering of the mental processes, even possibly removing the veil?
01-03-2012, 10:52 AM
(01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Zen, Two types of evaluation exist, and these have been identified as thinking (space/time orientation) or one-to-all AND feeling (time/space orientation) or all-to-one. The 3D brain is merely a body 'device driver' for the (non-local) mind. The brain provides a genetic connection to mind and perpetuates the veiling effect which may be used to one's and other's benefit to accelerate learning and balancing. At the next level (4D), the brain will also be used to evaluate and to inform experience. "61.13 Questioner: Then I will ask this question. Could you tell us the purpose of the frontal lobes of the brain and the conditions necessary for their activation? Ra: I am Ra. The frontal lobes of the brain will, shall we say, have much more use in fourth density. The primary mental/emotive condition of this large area of the so-called brain is joy or love in its creative sense. Thus the energies which we have discussed in relationship to the pyramids: all of the healing, the learning, the building, and the energizing are to be found in this area. This is the area tapped by the adept. This is the area which, working through the trunk and root of mind, makes contact with intelligent energy and through this gateway, intelligent infinity. Are there any queries before we leave this instrument?" (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: What will you do when you no longer exist in the flesh?Consider my experiences in a different light. (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Do you believe that you will have no means of learning or experiencing without that fleshy organ you trust so preciously?It is not at all trust in the faulty brain that I have, but faith in how honesty may be applied to enable discernment, and therefore learning. There are analogs to how time/space and space/time may be accessed by one's intelligence on all dimensions of being. Whether or not one refers to those faculties as "thinking" or "feeling", is beside the point. This dimension happens to be one where only partial aspects of being may be seen and then only from effort to make it seem real. As Ra said, "There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make. We can speak no more valiantly of your desire to serve." (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Let us remember the teachings of Thoth, the portal is an escape from the darkness.Yes, that 'darkness' as Ra said "The advantage of space/time [here, 3D locality] is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances." (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: We will not be wearing our flesh through the Astral gate.Correct, the body will die. The "Astral gate" comes in its own time. Meanwhile, there is work to do here which involves use of the will for discernment or evaluation, comparison.
01-03-2012, 12:06 PM
There is a vast breach between the type of discernment which you are applying to the teachings and the context in which I am using the terminology. But there is no need to create a debate where none is necessary. Again that is thinking with the flesh, by which I mean allowing the intellect to get in the way of actual understanding.
Never do I suggest that applying discernment is foolhardy. What I point out is the regularity of foolhardy discernment when one thinks the way man in his brainwashed state typically thinks. the flesh, in the sense that I use it, refers more to the state that man's submission to his worldly attachments stand between him and his spiritual reality. That should be obvious when compared with all of our statements, but taken out of context, the true meaning of such statements can be misconstrued, whether deliberate or subconsciously. I advise All to be certain they are taking the entirety of the teaching into context and not using portions to meet with their own philosophies. There is no benefit in debate, only in understanding. So we respectfully leave the discerning to the individual efforts. I do thank you for your attention, and ask that you consider what I have pointed out about the mentality of the mob. It is very obvious, and very detrimental to David W.'s teachings. Fear is the weapon of the enemy. If you put the sword in their hands so quickly, than who really is your worst enemy?
01-03-2012, 12:13 PM
peace to you Shin'Ar.
I greet you with Love & Light
01-03-2012, 02:44 PM
(01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Ankh, The Law of One isn't a religion. There is no dogma. Thus, each person is entitled to their own interpretation. (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Monica, Ah, but how does one know that the passageway will lead to safety, unless they've already been down that road? Otherwise, it's theoretical. (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: This is not about the integrity of the teacher, nor the naivety of the throng. It is simply about showing the Way. The Design will do the rest, not the teaching or the teacher. The 'way' is shown by following the tenets Ra suggested: looking within and seeing the Creator, looking at other-selves and seeing the Creator, looking at Nature and seeing the creator...and of course thru catalyst. (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Although I am not surprised that there are factors here that are confused about polarization, Specifically, what are you referring to? (01-03-2012, 08:13 AM)ShinAr Wrote: it still disturbs me that even in the face of clear and precise discussion words are so quickly twisted. That is common on any internet discussion forums. We don't have the benefit of tone of voice, facial expressions, body language, etc. so words are often misconstrued. The write often thinks his/her words are 'clear and precise' and yet they might not be understood in the way they were intended.
01-03-2012, 05:20 PM
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WHAT A WILD AND WACKY THREAD THIS IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wasn't this thread originally about well-wishes for a human being that had received a death threat? (01-03-2012, 12:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: There is a vast breach between the type of discernment which you are applying to the teachings and the context in which I am using the terminology. But there is no need to create a debate where none is necessary. Again that is thinking with the flesh, by which I mean allowing the intellect to get in the way of actual understanding."Actual understanding" is not possible, here in 3D 'flesh' - so kind of a moot point. You've stated, for example, that thinking and attachment (identification) are the same - I disagree with that premise. The faculties of evaluation, such as thinking-based analysis, may be extremely helpful with discernment and understanding here. Attachment is just a 'default state' when there is a distortion towards imbalance which requires that an idea (the emotive content derived from it) substitute for the thing it suggests. (01-03-2012, 12:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Never do I suggest that applying discernment is foolhardy. What I point out is the regularity of foolhardy discernment when one thinks the way man in his brainwashed state typically thinks. the flesh, in the sense that I use it, refers more to the state that man's submission to his worldly attachments stand between him and his spiritual reality.I think most of the individuals you are addressing would consider such basic concepts as 'worldly attachments' almost passé. (01-03-2012, 12:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I advise All to be certain they are taking the entirety of the teaching into context and not using portions to meet with their own philosophies. There is no benefit in debate, only in understanding. So we respectfully leave the discerning to the individual efforts.However, debate and understanding aren't mutually exclusive, of course. (01-03-2012, 12:06 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I do thank you for your attention, and ask that you consider what I have pointed out about the mentality of the mob. It is very obvious, and very detrimental to David W.'s teachings.This is doubtful. DW's teachings are part of a 'mob mentality', after all. Subcultural memes rise and fall all of the time.
01-04-2012, 04:17 AM
By the way, do we have any info on how David Wilcock is doing?
the last blog entry on Divinecosmos is from dec. 18, and the death threat was around that time.
01-04-2012, 04:43 AM
he hasn't updated. should be part 3.
01-04-2012, 08:15 AM
ZM, out of interest, have you studied psychology?
01-04-2012, 10:48 AM
01-04-2012, 12:28 PM
The 'default state' is the root which attaches, and is not severed as we build on our intellect until we begin to understand that everything that we have built upon is that root building block. Our entire identification of what we believe to be our self and ego is rooted in the early stages of that root becoming what we think we are.
Transcending from that state of thinking with the flesh comes when we understand that we are more than the sum of that experience, and are capable of thinking via our consciousness, instead of our flesh/brain. In this means of experiencing reality our field is exaggerated and becomes the 'feeler' for our environment, instead of our physical senses as we have known this life prior. But this is all outside of the topic of this thread and so I will leave you with that thought in response to your remarks. (01-04-2012, 10:48 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-04-2012, 08:15 AM)Namaste Wrote: ZM, out of interest, have you studied psychology?Some informal reading in analytical, transpersonal and developmental areas, including Jung, Assagioli, Wilber, Piaget. Thanks, I have not read Assagioli (yet!). Psychosynthesis looks interesting. (01-04-2012, 12:28 PM)ShinAr Wrote: The 'default state' is the root which attaches, and is not severed as we build on our intellect until we begin to understand that everything that we have built upon is that root building block. Our entire identification of what we believe to be our self and ego is rooted in the early stages of that root becoming what we think we are.That's why Ra associated 'ego' (which merely means 'I') with the lower, yellow-ray center. And as polarity increases to the green center, we start to explore the transpersonal awareness and states, starting with the subjective awareness from the standpoint of the personal unconscious. That initial experience of green-ray is where inflation of relativism comes into play (and is the start of the so-called 'Initiation'). (01-04-2012, 12:28 PM)ShinAr Wrote: Transcending from that state of thinking with the flesh comes when we understand that we are more than the sum of that experience, and are capable of thinking via our consciousness, instead of our flesh/brain. In this means of experiencing reality our field is exaggerated and becomes the 'feeler' for our environment, instead of our physical senses as we have known this life prior. But this is all outside of the topic of this thread and so I will leave you with that thought in response to your remarks.It's really simpler than that. What you are calling 'understanding' or 'gnosis' is merely what I've been calling (and Ra refers to as) 'honesty' which comes a little further after some work in balancing of the green-ray center, where blue-ray center is activated and accessed. The adept can utilize that blue-ray center to 'see into' or 'speak to' or 'listen to' the heart of self, other-self or an object for example. (01-04-2012, 06:19 PM)Namaste Wrote:It is an interesting approach and still largely relevant. Assagioli has been credited with defining the term "Higher Self" (which Ra uses as part of their vocabulary, and I'm sure a concept everyone is familiar with by now).(01-04-2012, 10:48 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-04-2012, 08:15 AM)Namaste Wrote: ZM, out of interest, have you studied psychology?Some informal reading in analytical, transpersonal and developmental areas, including Jung, Assagioli, Wilber, Piaget.
I don't like the division between flesh and non-flesh, as if the physical is a second class citizen. I'm not really looking for balance either, or trying to strike a balance, I'm looking for truth, and the truth is that the darkness is just as real as the lightness and the flesh is just as holy as the sprit. Time/space is just another set of illusions. Thoth may have escaped the body but he just escaped into another "prison" of illusions.
My motto lately is to accept all of it. It actually sounds a bit like according to shin I am falling for the "statemate" trap. May be the case but I prefer experiencing life this way. Approaching life like its all holy, even the flesh, even the muck, even the evil. I still have my preferences and I still act on them but I really don't want to play the "deny the flesh" type of game anymore. Seems like humans have been doing that for too long. I mean why is everyone trying to escape the body so badly anyway? Isn't that escapism pretty obviously a denial of the present? Earth is incredibly painful and I completely understand the desire to escape but escaping is not accepting, escaping is a failure to recognize the value of pain and suffering and failing to see Christ within the horrible earth plane that we all hate so much. To be in the earth pain and feel the pain and yet still not dim our awareness seems like skillful living.
01-05-2012, 06:35 AM
I like what you said, yossarian. If I remember it correctly, Ra said that as soon as we leave our physical body complex in third density, we are instantly taken into the indigo ray body, where the review of incarnation starts, and where decision of continuing experiences are made, i.e. more incarnations. I believe that Ra also said that even Higher Self resides in some kind of vehicle, and that the melding of the mind/body/spirit complex does not occur until 7D. So there is really no escape from the "illusion", until we turn ourselves towards Creator, and we are not there yet. ; )
01-05-2012, 09:22 AM
(01-05-2012, 03:18 AM)yossarian Wrote: I don't like the division between flesh and non-flesh, as if the physical is a second class citizen. I'm not really looking for balance either, or trying to strike a balance, I'm looking for truth, and the truth is that the darkness is just as real as the lightness and the flesh is just as holy as the spirit. Time/space is just another set of illusions. Thoth may have escaped the body but he just escaped into another "prison" of illusions. I agree with what you say my friend. the confusion only exists because of how you say it. You are still separating the flesh and the spirit as though the two are not One. And as though in order to experience one or the other we must only experience the extreme polarity of each. Think of it as riding in a car. You can experience the ride from the front seat or the back seat, but you are still experiencing the same ride. you can even straddle both seats if you wish. but if you wish to ride in the front seat you must climb into the seat from the back. you cannot ride in the front seat by sitting in the back seat. Humanity is caught up in a situation where we cannot seem to get out of the back seat and into the front. And to fulfill our Divine design we must at some point climb into the front seat and out of the back. Yes, experiencing the entire ride included our being in the back seat. That we have done over and over many times. Those who want to remain there to enjoy that aspect of the ride are simply not yet ready for the move forward. The darkness that Thoth spoke of is the fact that the Veil between the front and rear seats is made thicker by the lusts enjoyed in the rear seat, causing man to ignore what joys might be found in the front. Like young teens making love in the back seat we are simply not going to be distracted from the lust of the moment and leap into the front seat. The darkness is the lust of the flesh that entrap us via our love of it, and because we are not aware of the pleasures the front seat may offer in comparison, nor do we care in the throws of passion. The lusts of the flesh can be enjoyed and are not evil. they simply create a veil that must be parted in order to be attracted into another type of experiencing this existence. The darkness is the closed eyes of the lover feeling nothing but the passion of the flesh he wears. And there are those who understand this well and use it to their selfish advantage. They continue to toss enticement into the back seat to keep you distracted, and your addiction to it is their greatest tool to keep you from ever climbing into the front seat. Their greed is satisfied by your remaining back there.
01-05-2012, 09:30 AM
You mean to say pleasures of the flesh keep us in flesh mode ? So what.
When one is ready one will meet other pleasures or perhaps even blend different types of pleasures. It is not black and white in my opinion.
01-05-2012, 09:48 AM
Is that not exactly what I have spoken? When the caterpillar is ready it makes the cocoon.
We should be aware though that our progress into that cocoon is manipulated and intruded upon by those who benefit from keeping us chewing on the leaf. Not much different from the way that you might poke at the caterpillar when it is ready to make its cocoon because you want it to continue to make its silk that you are selling. |
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