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    Plenum (Offline)

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    #1
    01-14-2012, 03:24 AM
    I guess most of you saw the influx of spam posts just recently.

    this is an example (to me) of a negative greeting.

    Those individuals out there who wrote the software, or logged in manually and posted ads to buy "all sorts of stuff", posted in french and russian (languages that are not used in this forum) ... this is STS behaviour of injecting and forcing information where it was not requested/welcome.

    the STO response is to say: no thanks, but I cannot accept this. To maintain our physical integrity (in the sense of wholeness) we have to reject your offering. We may love you and see you as a Creator, but if we let this fly, we will be consumed and destroyed as a forum, and not able to function anymore.

    a STO individual is not weak, or just accepting. We have to stand up for principles of fairness and justice for ALL, and not let ourselves be infringed. If we do, we diminish our ability to be of service.

    my speech for the day BigSmileCool



    funnily enough, I received a similiar negative greeting on the way to work yesterday. I was walking through the main square, and was approached by 2 large rather imposing individuals, with Bibles in hand. Their intent was clear: to talk my ear off about the 'Lord' and 'salavation' and 'Jesus as saviour'. These things may or may not be true, but you are being too pushy by trying to stop me in the street and convert me. I held up a firm hand, said NO rather loudly, and walked very briskly through. They were quite surprised at how firm I was. Most people are too nice to these guys Tongue
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    #2
    01-14-2012, 03:34 AM
    Hi Plenum,

    We have a variety of measures in place to thwart the automated bots from taking over, so the french and russian posters you referred to had to manually create the user accounts in order to get by the custom registration questions.

    I am trying really hard to ban the IPs where these posters are coming from. I figured it's only a matter of time before all of Russia and France are banned from Bring4th! Seriously, though, I noticed that as soon as Google started indexing the new "political" sub-forum, that a ton of international spam started arriving. It's entirely possible that automated programs are scouting for certain keywords, and our political forum invited a whole 'lotta attention.

    Hopefully the measure I installed tonight will cause the number of fraudulent registrations to decrease.

    Steve

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    BrownEye Away

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    #3
    01-14-2012, 04:01 AM
    The spam wave has hit other forums coinciding with this forum.

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    Oceania Away

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    01-14-2012, 09:39 AM
    it's not a greeting, it's just spam. Tongue

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    01-14-2012, 10:52 AM
    I apologize if I had something to do with the spam wave, how ever inadvertantly and will strive to increase my integrity should that reduce the incidence of spam on this forum.

    If not, I hope you a nice vigil Smile

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    Oceania Away

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    #6
    01-14-2012, 12:51 PM
    they mean bots not treehuggers. Tongue

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    BrownEye Away

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    01-14-2012, 02:23 PM
    There has been talk of the large spam paragraphs sometimes containing some sort of "activation" codes for the subconscious. I haven't actually looked into that yet though.

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    Meerie

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    01-14-2012, 02:23 PM
    funnily enough the spambots seem to have spared treehuggers.
    Well I guess spamming treehouse is similar to taking owls to Athens, as the saying goes Tongue
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    Diana (Offline)

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    01-14-2012, 02:32 PM
    (01-14-2012, 02:23 PM)Pickle Wrote: There has been talk of the large spam paragraphs sometimes containing some sort of "activation" codes for the subconscious. I haven't actually looked into that yet though.

    I surmise that all things have more than one level. Perhaps it's just spam, but spam comes from individuals or companies, with marketing agendas at the very least. So even right there, there is more than words in a post. They come with an energy signature. So possibly Plenum is correct in assuming there is a "greeting" of sorts. These events happen on more than just this obvious physical level.

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    zenmaster (Offline)

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    01-14-2012, 02:41 PM
    A negative greeting is an exploitation of unconscious imbalance, from the perspective of greater awareness. Whereas spam is merely annoying advertising.

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    01-15-2012, 01:48 PM
    (01-14-2012, 02:41 PM)zenmaster Wrote: A negative greeting is an exploitation of unconscious imbalance, from the perspective of greater awareness. Whereas spam is merely annoying advertising.

    So manipulative advertising techniques... which exploit unconsciousness and imbalance in its targeted recipients....and which utilize quite a range of sophisticated marketing concepts devised by those with a perspective of greater awareness of how the human subconscious mind operates....would fit the definition of negative greeting in my understanding.

    It seems merely a matter of degrees rather than fundamental difference. Of course, from a certain perspective, even a 'traditional' negative greeting by a highly polarized negative entity, could be classified as "merely annoying".

    Perhaps it would be helpful to apply the lessons of Spam to those other types of negative greeting. I like what Plenum has to say on the matter.

    Love to all










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    zenmaster (Offline)

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    01-15-2012, 02:02 PM
    (01-15-2012, 01:48 PM)Pablísimo Wrote: So manipulative advertising techniques... which exploit unconsciousness and imbalance in its targeted recipients....and which utilize quite a range of sophisticated marketing concepts devised by those with a perspective of greater awareness of how the human subconscious mind operates....would fit the definition of negative greeting in my understanding.
    When the necessary abstractions are made for the sake of convenience and the analog is taken to absurdity, then yes it fits the definition.

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    01-15-2012, 03:22 PM
    (01-15-2012, 02:02 PM)zenmaster Wrote: When the necessary abstractions are made for the sake of convenience and the analog is taken to absurdity, then yes it fits the definition.

    Indeed. And good point. Wink

    Love to all



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    BrownEye Away

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    01-15-2012, 03:43 PM
    http://www.psychotactics.com/harness-the...munication

    http://www.creativekeys.net/Storytelling...e1017.html

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