4D offers Bisexuality
03-23-2012, 09:41 PM,
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4D offers Bisexuality
Hi all,

I was reading through RA material and noticed one of the 4D features is "bisexuality".

Just wondering what all your thoughts are.

Are you already feeling a move towards bisexual? Are you looking forward to it? Do you see it as an evolutionary step or a distortion?

I've noticed that when out dancing, there seems to be more males then females on the dance floor. The males don't sit on the side and watch the females in fascination like in the past, but seem more likely then females to participate in many cases.

I notice many females seem to enjoy watching sports on TV now. Males do too equivalently. Yet sometimes it seems the females have learned to do it to connect to the males.

What about males who avoid making decisions, and female who now prefer to dominate the decision making?

If 4D takes us into bisexuality do you see it as a positive enhancement/experience or negative? Is STS or STO in sync with it or both? Do you think the Leaders of that dimension will also be "bisexual"? What about the outlying forces, such as other galactic forces?

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03-23-2012, 09:59 PM,
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I don't remember that. Could you provide a quote? I had thought that when Ra referred to bisexual reproduction they were usually talking about what we call heterosexual activity.
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03-23-2012, 10:19 PM,
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I don't have a quote to offer. (?)

I read the same as you wrote and to me that indicates bisexuality. As I see it he mentions reproduction because their are probably "issues" because of the bisexuality due TO the anti-polarity in the "species".

We are already noticing this case to be: women with inabilities to get pregnant and men with low sperm counts. Prostate cancer, breast cancer and on and on... a whole host of new travails that come with our distortions in our time/space. Viagra and Cialis sold out on the shelves. Can men get there Mojo back without a pill?


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03-23-2012, 10:29 PM,
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Ra is referring to bisexual reproduction (two sexes) as opposed to asexual reproduction (self-producing).
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03-23-2012, 10:30 PM,
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oh, but I do see what you mean! I just did a search the RA writings using the word "bisexual" and yes, it looks as if he is using the word in that way. However, somehow I still feel there is some sort of a conflict in it. For some reason it has been brought to my attention.

..many densities are androgynous.
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03-23-2012, 10:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-23-2012, 10:59 PM by Icaro.)
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Well when I think about it, with no veil, there will always be such a deep and loving connection that is felt in the presence of another no matter the sex. At the same time, you would naturally be drawn to the opposite sexual polarity for more intimate experiences because polarities will be heightened and made more distinct with no veil. There is going to be such wonderful harmony, that expression in that manner with the same sex might not be desired..at least in 4d I imagine. There's mention that in 6d, experience that is had between two individuals is somehow also shared with all others.
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03-23-2012, 10:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-23-2012, 10:59 PM by hogey11.)
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One idea i've somewhat extrapolated from the Law of One material in regards to the elements that Lulu is talking about (gender roles reversing, 'metrosexual' men, etc.) is that this can better be explained through the harvest. Once we passed the harmonic convergence date, nearly all souls incarnating on this sphere are here for the harvest, and are therefore harvestable.

Now, because they are harvestable, we can probably assume they've lived many lives as both sexes as they've learnt the required lessons. In this way, they are comfortable in both roles and not ruled as strongly by the confusion of gender; they've undergone enough training as both sexes as to swing both ways. I believe RA uses this idea to explain why one might be homosexual, where if a soul has lived more than 2/3 of their incarnations as one sex over the other, the sexual preference will sometimes bleed through despite everything else. So I see the concept extending out past sexuality into personalities also...

I will say that 4D will most probably include bisexuals for those who choose it. 4D is not about shutting any ideas down; it's about approaching all ideas with love. The bisexuals will be celebrated like anyone else Big Grin
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03-23-2012, 11:21 PM,
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My personal experiences or 'awakening' brought me OUT of an apathetical or rather indifferent sort of sexual polarity state. Though I preferred men, I was open to the idea of exploring women. I had soft-curiosity-desires for multiple relationships etc. At that point in my life I was in an externally depolarized state, though I had sex with many men some were very feminine.

Because my internal longings maintained a polarity (souls desires) and I was willing to Open to those, I eventually faced all my distorted feminine psyche energies of the past. This has brought me into a point of clear attraction to males that are more polarized in their masculine energy. Loving new-ager type males are no longer a turn-on.

However, being out of touch with this greater feminine aspect in this and many other lifetimes, leaves much to explore and little known to work with for me at this time. Most of my creative work is in my mind for now, there aren't many truly polarized males without major issues; just as their are not females.

Let's discuss, if we can, how this relates to our world at large. Politics etc. How could feminine energy expressed in it's purest form (and what does THAT look like) be valuable/useful and powerful IN the world? Any thoughts?



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03-24-2012, 12:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 01:02 AM by Icaro.)
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(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  4D is not about shutting any ideas down; it's about approaching all ideas with love. The bisexuals will be celebrated like anyone else Big Grin

I'd be supportive of that idea, but I just don't know purely from the standpoint of metaphysical principle. There might be a natural resistance in terms of sexual function just as two poles of like-polarity don't come together.

When you read about sexual energy transfer in the material though, you begin to realize that they aren't just talking about sex. Everything is an energy transfer. All experience is filtering up through the chakras, and this means we're always transferring energy to each other in the co-creative process, otherwise there would be no manifestation. And Ra confirms this by saying that at the sacramental level, all interaction is seen as "sexual".

However, the body has polarity. In terms of actual sex and the complete transfer of that type of energy, it must only be possible between two opposite bodies. It's possible that there may be types of relationships that form between same-sex, while also freely participating in sex with the opposite polarity.
(03-23-2012, 11:21 PM)Lulu Wrote:  My personal experiences or 'awakening' brought me OUT of an apathetical or rather indifferent sort of sexual polarity state. Though I preferred men, I was open to the idea of exploring women.

I think in the development of consciousness this may be natural. If we're essentially healers, it might be a function of balancing the hateful collected energy that exists towards such an idea, and then carried further.

This quote seems to suggest that we should be able to look past gender and see the spirit within, and be able to feel a love and connection with that spirit regardless of gender.

Quote:The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished. It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet.[/size]

I personally am highly sensitive to the energy that others put out, and I feel a lot of insecurity in other's thoughts in regards to the above.
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03-24-2012, 01:39 AM,
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i think for dancing it's not about dancing with anyone, it is about expressing oneself. I liked to dance to Psyche trance etc and in a way it's like an individual trip... although of course it was nice to dance with some pretty girls Heart

i was actually thinking about this yesterday; If one has lived many lives as both sexes and the veil of forgetting has been penetrated, would bisexuality follow? I guess the make up of the male body is what drives sexual desire. What I have noticed is that the more spiritual i became, the less lustfull i was. Re homosexuality, adolescent males spend a lot of time masturbating. Therefore the penis becomes a fascination. So I can see why homosexual acts are common in all male boarding schools etc.
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03-24-2012, 03:34 AM,
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Well, if there was no homosexuality/bisexuality in 4D+ before, I am sure Gaians will introduce it *now*, being the special planet and all. (said with love)
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03-24-2012, 03:41 AM,
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I recall RA being somewhat against the idea of homosexuality in the 3rd dimension. There was reference to same-sex couples maintaining a loving relationship however coitus was to be avoided.

Regarding society's apparent slide into androgyny I feel this could relate to the Yin and Yang balancing of the masculine and feminine parts of the personality. Not necessarily becoming androgynous, merely becoming a more balanced whole.

Regarding dancing! When I was young and clubbing in Africa we all danced at any opportunity, male and female. Usually more males than females as they wanted to show off their moves to the ladies. But generally everyone was on the dance floor for 90% of the time.

It was coming to Australia I noticed the complete opposite. The dance floor crammed with gyrating females in impossibly high heels and every male on the sidelines holding a beer. It was awful to be honest. The female became a piece of meat advertising her wares, intentionally or not.

I think we are all meant to dance together...in comfortable shoes! Maybe that's what's happening now.
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03-24-2012, 11:20 AM,
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Yeah, dancing is a great way to channel that state of ecstasy..I love to dance. When everyone is together and happy like that, you really feel that celebration of beingness. It puts you in a higher state.

"To the universe belongs the dancer. He who does not dance does not know what happens." - Gnostic quote by Jesus
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03-24-2012, 11:29 AM,
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(03-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Icaro Wrote:  Yeah, dancing is a great way to channel that state of ecstasy..I love to dance. When everyone is together and happy like that, you really feel that celebration of beingness. It puts you in a higher state.
Cue scene with people gettin down in da club to 'back that azz up'.
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03-24-2012, 11:58 AM,
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Heh..I avoid those types of clubs.
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03-24-2012, 12:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 12:03 PM by Monica.)
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(03-23-2012, 09:59 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:  I had thought that when Ra referred to bisexual reproduction they were usually talking about what we call heterosexual activity.

Yes, that is my understanding as well. You can tell from the context.


(03-23-2012, 10:29 PM)Icaro Wrote:  Ra is referring to bisexual reproduction (two sexes) as opposed to asexual reproduction (self-producing).

Exactly.

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03-24-2012, 12:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 12:45 PM by hogey11.)
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@Icaro

Which gnostic text is that quoted from? I really like it - it's good 'man up' advice in a practical/literal sense too. If you're out and about, take some risks and ask a girl to dance or you'll end up chillin on the sidelines till last call wondering why things are so lonely. Thank you for this Big Grin


I found the main bit about homosexuality from the LoO site. I have a few thoughts about these questions. I think there is much hidden in the subtext:

Quote:31.8 Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.

For myself, Ra is saying here that 'homosexuality' is a deviation from the plan, which from a biological standpoint makes some sense. I think a lot of the other aspects of this question make more sense after the next few are answered.

Quote:31.9 Questioner: Why does density of population create these confusions?

Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.

In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to otherselves. This would also increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red ray reproductive energy.

In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.

I think we have to be careful not to read this purely as pertaining only to homosexual sexual relationships. Like other's have mentioned, sexual energy transfers are not just the exchange of bodily fluids - there is much spiritual work being done as well. Ra is never bringing the morality of sexual energy transfers into this at all; it is up to us how we handle ourselves in the bedroom whether gay, straight, or bisexual. We choose which color rays to participate in and whether we direct our energy towards STS or STO purposes in our sexual unions. That is beside the point that I feel RA is making here.

I think RA is saying in the first line of the response that sexual relationships are there to help shape us towards our spiritual goals. The interplay between the the masculine and feminine energies play off each other and feed each other to make both more full; in practical terms, I think this means that some men need a lady to love and protect and some women need a man to feed and take care of in order for them to be at their spiritual best. We cannot pretend that men and women are exactly the same because the biology is very differently; this is fact. IMO, it could be that the differences in biology between man/woman is why this type of relationship is seemingly 'preferred' by RA, in that the homosexual union, even with a strong past-life aura breaking through, cannot provide the same opportunities to work and learn in this environment. This is all conjecture tho; I don't know for sure Tongue

I take the overcrowded line to basically mean that in high-density places, the constant acquiescence to the greater majority that is required by living in a city can drive people to not search for the aforementioned relationship mentioned above (masculine/feminine dynamics). In really basic terms, they're talking about people who choose to not participate in a heterosexual relationship because they already deal so much with those energies every day in their dealings with all the people around them. It could also include people who don't care to have children.

I try to fit the following statement into the last by saying that this RA seems to be alluding to the 'lonely' factor that one may or may not feel in their lives. Ra also seems to be speaking from a purely STO standpoint, so I am not sure what the STS teaching on this subject would reveal either.

Quote:31.10 Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.

It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.

I think this kinda just reminds us that our biology does dictate a lot of this. We seem to require an incarnational bias in order to override our biological inclinations, and even then, homosexuality as a sexual act is considered a 'sexual impairment' by RA (which again makes some sense on a biological level). Ra does, however, include the caveat that beneficial relationships are very possible, if focused away from the sexual acts.

I also wonder how/if anal sex comes into play with all of this. I remember reading once that some claim that it's a form of energy transfer/vampirism where the red ray energies are absorbed by that who has penetrated. I will admit the post came packaged with all sorts of hate and fear towards catholic priests, but the idea somehow stuck with me.

Does the last line prove that RA's judgment of homosexuals that the real 'problem' is purely the sexual acts that are associated with it?
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03-24-2012, 01:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 01:46 PM by Monica.)
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(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  Once we passed the harmonic convergence date, nearly all souls incarnating on this sphere are here for the harvest, and are therefore harvestable.

Are you saying everyone on the planet is harvestable at this point in time? If so, I'd have to disagree with that. That seems to conflict with a lot of what Ra and Q'uo have stated about giving us the maximum amount of time to increase the harvest. My understanding is that the potential is there for everyone to be harvestable, but many are still sitting on the fence.

(03-23-2012, 10:58 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  I believe RA uses this idea to explain why one might be homosexual, where if a soul has lived more than 2/3 of their incarnations as one sex over the other, the sexual preference will sometimes bleed through despite everything else. So I see the concept extending out past sexuality into personalities also...

When I first read that, I as amazed at the simplicity and profundity of this explanation for what has eluded modern researchers - the reason for homosexuality and other sexual variatons. When viewed in light of reincarnation, it makes perfect sense.


(03-24-2012, 11:20 AM)Icaro Wrote:  Yeah, dancing is a great way to channel that state of ecstasy..I love to dance. When everyone is together and happy like that, you really feel that celebration of beingness. It puts you in a higher state.

Oh yes most definitely! And headbanging too. Tongue


(03-24-2012, 12:43 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  I also wonder how/if anal sex comes into play with all of this. I remember reading once that some claim that it's a form of energy transfer/vampirism where the red ray energies are absorbed by that who has penetrated. I will admit the post came packaged with all sorts of hate and fear towards catholic priests, but the idea somehow stuck with me.

Does the last line prove that RA's judgment of homosexuals that the real 'problem' is purely the sexual acts that are associated with it?

My guess is that it's because of the nature of the energies exchanged. There is a great deal of info regarding this from the ancient Taoists that correlate with Ra's statements.

An excellent book on Taoist views of sexuality is Sexual Secrets by Nik Douglas and Penny Slinger. An explanation of the energies exchanged is given for the various sexual acts.

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03-24-2012, 02:52 PM,
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Quote:Are you saying everyone on the planet is harvestable at this point in time?

Not necessarily. The mental image I was given by RA's explanations was that as souls of the past reached harvestable status, they withdrew from incarnating as to allow others who were not yet 'done their work' to get more shots at the can, if you will. Just as they give priority of incarnation to those who 'need' it, the same souls are given priority in order to be incarnated at/during the harvest window, as to form the birth of a new 4D sphere/plane/society here on earth.

As far as 'others', I think there are still wanderers and non-harvestables incarnated. I think there are probably even harvestables who are now non-harvestable as result of their current incarnation. I just also think this explains the doubling of our population over the last 30 years and will eventually explain the shift to our eventual 4D goal.
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03-24-2012, 03:38 PM,
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(03-24-2012, 02:52 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  I just also think this explains the doubling of our population over the last 30 years
I think you missed the talk about the 'birds and the bees'.

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03-24-2012, 07:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012, 07:38 PM by Icaro.)
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(03-24-2012, 12:43 PM)hogey11 Wrote:  @Icaro

Which gnostic text is that quoted from? I really like it - it's good 'man up' advice in a practical/literal sense too. If you're out and about, take some risks and ask a girl to dance or you'll end up chillin on the sidelines till last call wondering why things are so lonely. Thank you for this Big Grin

It says Gnostic Acts of John. You're welcome. Yep, shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your booty.
(03-24-2012, 01:39 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:  Oh yes most definitely! And headbanging too. Tongue

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03-24-2012, 10:18 PM,
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(03-24-2012, 03:41 AM)jacrob Wrote:  I think we are all meant to dance together...in comfortable shoes! Maybe that's what's happening now.

hmmm... interesting topic. I appreciate your examples.
ya --the aussie take --ICK is right up there with cowboys.
and I love clubs where everyone dances. I was in France recently at large night clubs where "everyone dances" and it was sort of discouraging for connecting with anyone. At least for me and my two very feminine and beautiful sisters. I remember watching one of them and thinking OMG she is competing with a male for feminine expression. It sort of bothered me and I wanted to get away from both of them.

I also spent time in a very open minded resort community based around hot-springs with conferences related to spirituality and sexuality. Because the hot-pools were meditation only, to connect with someone one has to really feel into their energy. Surprising what we find out later when they talk. LOL. Much opportunity to learn.
In this community many types of dances are offered. On the unconditional dance nights EVERYONE would dance. Basically no one would really look at anyone else. Losing themselves ecstatically in their own expression which is ideal for the "dancer". As everyone was dancing it was Ideal. I had sexual experiences with different men who visited this community. Though I enjoyed all of my experiences the only one that really TURNED ME ON was one of the men that didn't care to dance. Though all of my choosen lovers were conscientious, connecting and more intimate than typical lovers I also felt like the polarity wasn't strong enough to be attracting. Because of this I didn't want to continue spending time with them. I'm half-man in a sense myself. Or I can be if I choose. I can be as sampling of men as men can be of women, with no after thought or concern for the guiding feminine principle of "love". I'm not saying I am not that. I'm just saying I can be both if I choose.

I think we may be moving into a time where we concioustly Choose our polarities and work within what truly feels best. Perhaps using one or both at will for what best serves the purpose.
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(03-24-2012, 03:38 PM)zenmaster Wrote:  I think you missed the talk about the 'birds and the bees'.

I have never understood why bees were included in that. Bees don't reproduce anything like humans or other animals! And I never did figure out how birds do it, either. Blush So dogs and cats would have been a better example. What child doesn't occasionally see some dogs or cats going at it?

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Quote:31.4 Questioner: Can you expand somewhat on the concept that this action not only allows the Creator to know Itself better but also creates, in our density, an offspring or makes available the pathway for another entity to enter this density?

Ra: I am Ra. As we have previously said, the sexual energy transfers include the red ray transfer which is random and which is a function of the second-density attempt to grow, to survive, shall we say. This is a proper function of the sexual interaction. The offspring, as you call the incarnated entity, takes on the mind/body complex opportunity offered by this random act or event called the fertilization of egg by seed which causes an entity to have the opportunity to then enter this density as an incarnate entity.

This gives the two who were engaged in this bisexual reproductive energy transfer the potential for great service in this area of the nurturing of the small-experienced entity as it gains in experience.

It shall be of interest at this point to note that there is always the possibility of using these opportunities to polarize towards the negative, and this has been aided by the gradual building up over many thousands of your years of social complex distortions which create a tendency towards confusion, shall we say, or baffling of the service to others aspect of this energy transfer and subsequent opportunities for service to other selves.


Quote:31.7 Questioner: Thank you. In the previous material you mentioned “magnetic attraction.” Would you define and expand upon that term?

Ra: I am Ra. We used the term to indicate that in your bisexual natures there is that which is of polarity. This polarity may be seen to be variable according to the, shall we say, male/female polarization of each entity, be each entity biologically male or female. Thus you may see the magnetism which two entities with the appropriate balance, male/female versus female/male polarity, meeting and thus feeling the attraction which polarized forces will exert, one upon the other.

This is the strength of the bisexual mechanism. It does not take an act of will to decide to feel attraction for one who is oppositely polarized sexually. It will occur in an inevitable sense giving the free flow of energy a proper, shall we say, avenue. This avenue may be blocked by some distortion toward a belief/condition stating to the entity that this attraction is not desired. However, the basic mechanism functions as simply as would, shall we say, the magnet and the iron.
This pretty much sounds like bi-sexual means two sexes.

Quote:83.3 Questioner: Thank you. I’m going to ask a rather long, complex question and I would request that the answer to each portion of this question be given if there was a significant difference prior to the veil than following the veil so that I can get an idea of how what we experience now is used for better polarization.

What was the difference before the veil in the following while incarnate in third density: sleep, dreams, physical pain, mental pain, sex, disease, catalyst programming, random catalyst, relationships, and communication with the Higher Self or with the mind/body/spirit totality or any other mind, body, or spirit functions before the veil that would be significant with respect to their difference after the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.

Secondly, the character of experience was altered drastically by the veiling process. In some cases such as the dreaming and the contact with the Higher Self, the experience was quantitatively different due to the fact that the veiling is a primary cause of the value of dreams and is also the single door against which the Higher Self must stand awaiting entry. Before veiling, dreams were not for the purpose of using the so-called unconscious to further utilize catalyst but were used to learn/teach from teach/learners within the inner planes as well as those of outer origins of higher density. As you deal with each subject of which you spoke you may observe, during the veiling process, not a quantitative change in the experience but a qualitative one.

Let us, as an example, choose your sexual activities of energy transfer. If you have a desire to treat other subjects in detail please query forthwith. In the instance of the sexual activity of those not dwelling within the veiling each activity was a transfer. There were some transfers of strength. Most were rather attenuated in the strength of the transfer due to the lack of veiling.

In the third density entities are attempting to learn the ways of love. If it can be seen that all are one being it becomes much more difficult for the undisciplined personality to choose one mate and, thereby, initiate itself into a program of service. It is much more likely that the sexual energy will be dissipated more randomly without either great joy or great sorrow depending from these experiences.

Therefore, the green-ray energy transfer, being almost without exception the case in sexual energy transfer prior to veiling, remains weakened and without significant crystallization. The sexual energy transfers and blockages after veiling have been discussed previously. It may be seen to be a more complex study but one far more efficient in crystallizing those who seek the green-ray energy center.

Quote:84.22 Questioner: Did most Logoi plan, before the veil, to create a system of random sexual activity or the specific pairing of entities for specific periods of time, or did they have an objective in this respect?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

The harvest from the previous creation was that which included the male and female mind/body/spirit. It was the intention of the original Logoi that entities mate with one another in any fashion which caused a greater polarization. It was determined, after observation of the process of many Logoi, that polarization increased many fold if the mating were not indiscriminate. Consequent Logoi thusly preserved a bias towards the mated relationship which is more characteristic of more disciplined personalities and of what you may call higher densities. The free will of each entity, however, was always paramount and a bias only could be offered.
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03-25-2012, 11:22 AM,
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(03-24-2012, 11:51 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:  I have never understood why bees were included in that. Bees don't reproduce anything like humans or other animals!

Good point!
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03-25-2012, 11:36 AM,
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(03-24-2012, 11:51 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:  I have never understood why bees were included in that. Bees don't reproduce anything like humans or other animals!
The phrase came from popular culture about the doings of nature in general, not about explicit sexual behavior. But people make the association and it sticks. The lyrics "And that's why birds do it, bees do it" may have been seminal.
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03-26-2012, 10:09 PM,
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RA 5.2 : ...The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body complexes. ...It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily polarities and to accept them...
...accepting as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished.
...The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male.

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Recognizing and then Accepting our body self with it's both Female and Male attributes and Then polarizing by choice is how I see it.

My right side of my body itself is where any physical ailments tend to reside. As connected to the left-brain or the masculine side, including what pushes for logic and reasoning and expresses itself in competitiveness, success, goals etc it has had it's days.

This Right side for me, has injuries and has been overworked in this life.

I had much difficulty during my awakening time to accept my True Feminine attributes on a conscious and physical level. I have yet to find complete experience in them more consistently polarizing as is most enjoyable.

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03-27-2012, 08:24 PM,
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Sexual dichotomy (male/female) is totally harmonized at 6D. Until then, the duality of the polar sexes is still used for sexual energy transfer.

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03-27-2012, 08:41 PM,
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thanks Siren,

The question then being, what does Harmony mean exactly? In my view I am coming into what seems to be a full cycle. Beginning with Lifetimes that began in the farthest Polarity (for me as a female) where I was dominated, was a slave and was owned, and continued into more distortions and disruptions which during the lifetimes where I gave-in to said eventually caused desires for freedoms and pushed me again and again into pursuing my masculine energies with the guiding force of "freedom". Now arriving into an end time when I begin to merge back into my feminine form in a more pure state by choice without the fear from the past, but have the harmony of the masculine energies to balance with it at will as desired.

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03-27-2012, 09:11 PM,
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(03-27-2012, 08:41 PM)Lulu Wrote:  The question then being, what does Harmony mean exactly?

Balance, assimilation, synthesis of "opposites." Oneness. Quality of 6D consciousness awareness.

The male/female sexual dichotomy is most truly expressed/experienced/understood in 4D.
5D moves closer towards androgyny, the physical vehicle being more easily "refined" by thought, more responsive to light/sound/vibration.
6D could be said to be quite androgynous where distinction between male/female is entirely transcended/balanced into one sex.

Much can be learned about higher densities by examining the lower ones in contrast, as mirror. The key to remember is that the green spectrum is the "heart" of Creation, the center around which everything "spins;" it is the in-between the "higher-up" and the "lower-down" (or the inner/timespace and the outer/spacetime), between the higher 3 and the lower 3.

The orange spectrum (2) is related, inversely, in a manner of speaking, to the indigo spectrum (6). Same applies to yellow (3) and blue (5), red (1) and violet (7).


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