02-06-2015, 12:14 AM
(02-03-2015, 07:14 PM)Nicholas Wrote:(02-03-2015, 01:49 PM)Nicholas Wrote: .
Quote:I've noticed a distinct aversion by members here of 'conspiracy theories' which they claim are somehow distractions to the more important subject of spirituality. Meanwhile, you all are debating whether or not moon bases are real. I suggest that conspiracy research has much to do with spirituality - further, the search for truth is not confined to spiritual subjects, and truth in related fields such as science and even politics may shed considerable light upon subjects which you all deem more important than 'transient matters'.The search for truth for me begins with getting to know who I am and accepting and embracing my dark side. Failing to do this could leave me blindsided and ripe for being manipulated.
The sequence of your research is up to you - I suggest spiritual and material research go on simultaneously. I read books on spirituality and books on the manipulation of humanity one after the other....
Quote:I humbly suggest that conspiracy research has much to offer those on a spiritual path. Spiritual aspirations are all about the search for the truth of God and enlightenment. One may be far along this path of enlightenment and still be ignorant of what's really going on in the world and why we are on the brink of extinction. We need to be WHOLE, we need a proper perspective of spiritual truth AND worldly truth.I agree that being informed aids us in making ethical choices. Voting and/or political activism is but one of many.
Quote:What good is it to be enlightened when the rest of humanity is suffering under a fascist dictatorship now being put into place by an evil cabal intent on controlling the world?For the reason I mentioned above. Its wiser to become a Player than remain self ignorant and be played.
Same reply as above.
Quote:Do not limit yourselves in your studies.Is that the 11th Commandment?
Don't be a wiseass.
Quote:One more example: GMOs. Monsanto and the other giant biotech industries are hell-bent on having everyone consume GMO foods. Why? Because a) there is big money to be made; b) they want to control the food supply; c) they want to destroy the health of humanity to facilitate the takeover of the planet. Does this sound like nonsense to you?I am quite aware, quite agree and is congruent with Ra's explanation of STS polarity. George Carlin made some eye opening stand up comedy over it. It was unfortunate he became cynical though as I suspect he deactivated his green energy centre.
Quote:And if you think the New World Order is the figment of David Icke's imagination, then you really have been living with blinders on.No I don't, however I do believe the "Saturn and Moon Matrix" you tube video is misguiding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSqADAur-w
This book is on my priority list and I think you might also appreciate it (Thanks Jim for the recommendation!)
http://www.amazon.com/Exposing-U-S-Government-Policies-Extraterrestrial/dp/0982290209/ref=sr_1_4?
ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233546261&sr=1-4
David Icke will give you ten times the bang for your buck than any of your generic tomes...suit yourself.
(02-04-2015, 06:52 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:(02-03-2015, 01:49 PM)indolering Wrote: .
I've noticed a distinct aversion by members here of 'conspiracy theories' which they claim are somehow distractions to the more important subject of spirituality. Meanwhile, you all are debating whether or not moon bases are real. I suggest that conspiracy research has much to do with spirituality - further, the search for truth is not confined to spiritual subjects, and truth in related fields such as science and even politics may shed considerable light upon subjects which you all deem more important than 'transient matters'.
The poster who provided a link to Ingo Swann's book, Penetration, is an example of a non-scientific exploration of the moon which more properly falls into the category of conspiracy lore. Scientists do not support such research and only those whose minds are open to things like clairvoyance and remote viewing are willing to consider such evidence.
I humbly suggest that conspiracy research has much to offer those on a spiritual path. Spiritual aspirations are all about the search for the truth of God and enlightenment. One may be far along this path of enlightenment and still be ignorant of what's really going on in the world and why we are on the brink of extinction. We need to be WHOLE, we need a proper perspective of spiritual truth AND worldly truth. What good is it to be enlightened when the rest of humanity is suffering under a fascist dictatorship now being put into place by an evil cabal intent on controlling the world? We have to be savvy in both worlds, the spiritual and material. And the only way to know the truth of the material world is to acquaint ourselves with authentic and sincere researchers who are uncovering the maneuvering behind the scenes of powerful warmongers whose agenda is to enslave the human race.
Perhaps this post deserves a thread of its own - probably so. But I don't post here too often any more and after reading some of the posts in this thread, I thought to add my thoughts to the discussion. I have already initiated a thread called Spaceship Moon which explains why the moon is not a natural satellite, and why it must have been 'steered' into orbit around the Earth. Assuming this is so, there is every reason to believe there are bases on the moon, and that ETs also inhabit the interior of the moon.
This is but one example of how research into occult subjects may greatly enhance our understanding of our world and ourselves. Do not limit yourselves in your studies. The truth of the world is almost as important as the truth of the Creator. If you care about our otherselves, you will want to know the truth of why there is so much suffering going on in the world.
One more example: GMOs. Monsanto and the other giant biotech industries are hell-bent on having everyone consume GMO foods. Why? Because a) there is big money to be made; b) they want to control the food supply; c) they want to destroy the health of humanity to facilitate the takeover of the planet. Does this sound like nonsense to you? That's because you have not studied the tactics and agenda of the New World Order. And if you think the New World Order is the figment of David Icke's imagination, then you really have been living with blinders on. Our world is in serious trouble and it's going to take the concerted effort of all of us to take back our world from the negative creeps who have stolen it. Life is more than contemplating one's navel; we need to be engaged in the world and do what we can to eliminate the suffering we see all around us.
I think you will find that a lot of people that have ended up at the Law of One, and studying the Ra Material with Ra's particular focus on the non-transient have already passed through the realms of conspiracy study. This is not ignorance at play, and a lack of awareness of the deeper agenda of politicians and the global cabal; but rather, that such excursions end up being rather unsatisfying and non-transformative in one's own personal life.
becoming aware of big pharma: yes, by all means, seek out your own natural remedies
becoming aware of big agriculture/farma: change one's diet, choose where your spending dollars go
becoming aware of black ops programs: try and lobby for disclosure
becoming aware of currency manipulations: find your own way of creating 'value'.
and beyond that, how much deeper do you want to dig?
You have all the answers, do you?
Conspiracy research is a vast subject, probably moreso than the spiritual search. Perhaps you feel you know all there is to know about such things - your assumption about the other posters here may surprise you. I have found that my research into conspiracies has transformed me in important ways and has been very satisfying. Go down the rabbit hole as far as you like. Personally, i live for truth wherever I can find it. And to know the truth of how we are being taken over by the collaboration of illuminati operatives and negative ETs is something I'd like to know about - why? Because they represent the true enemies of humanity. While we're being persuaded that Muslims are the enemy, we fall deeper into slavery by the day. Perhaps you agree with Ashim that to resist the tyranny is no way to conduct a 'polarity game'. Suit yourself. Greater spiritual beings than us have taken up their sword to banish evil. Arjuna and Krisna come to mind....
(02-05-2015, 05:24 AM)Ashim Wrote:(02-03-2015, 01:49 PM)indolering Wrote: .
Our world is in serious trouble and it's going to take the concerted effort of all of us to take back our world from the negative creeps who have stolen it.
This will never happen. You don't 'win' a polarity game in this way.
Nothing was 'stolen' either, rather handed over by a compliant, complacent population, lacking in the ability of abstact thought.
Just because their power is drawn from the south pole makes a negative no less creepy than a positive.
I pretty much disagree with you on all points. I know you are deemed to be a highly evolved being and all, but my intuition tells me we'll be successful in routing the parasites from our midst and return this planet to its former pristine state. I don't know how you propose to behave under these circumstances, but I for one will not stand idly by while warmongers steal our world. Oh, you say we gave it to them - we were coerced and duped and lied to every step of the way. If you think meditation is all we need to salvage ourselves, have at it. You're in the minority. It will take action, and lots of it to counter the negative creeps now in control. If you think JFK,MLK, Tesla, Yogananda and all the rest of the good men and women are comparable 'creeps', I question your judgment.