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    Thread: "If I didn't have a microwave I'd starve"


    Marc (Offline)

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    06-17-2013, 07:36 PM
    So I was rummaging about Facebook and saw a friend with his status being "If I didn't have a microwave, I would starve" and it completely set an alarm off in my head about how reliant our western culture is on the microwave. I've always had an eerie feeling about it and would only use it when absolutely nessesary, but I think I may try to cut all cords from it now (pardon the electrical pun). Doing a quick google gave me this
    Quote:In short, microwaves distort the molecular structure of the foods. They destroy much of the nutrients and cause many other problems with the immune system over a period of time. If you love your family read this and take the extra couple of minutes to heat the food up the right way.

    [...]
    Microwaves are a form of electromagnetic energy, like light waves or radio waves, and occupy a part of the electromagnetic spectrum of power, or energy. Microwaves are very short waves of electromagnetic energy that travel at the speed of light (186,282 miles per second). In our modern technological age, microwaves are used to relay long distance telephone signals, television programs, and computer information across the earth or to a satellite in space. But the microwave is most familiar to us as an energy source for cooking food.

    Every microwave oven contains a magnetron, a tube in which electrons are affected by magnetic and electric fields in such a way as to produce micro wavelength radiation at about 2450 Mega Hertz (MHz) or 2.45 Giga Hertz (GHz). This microwave radiation interacts with the molecules in food. All wave energy changes polarity from positive to negative with each cycle of the wave. In microwaves, these polarity changes happen millions of times every second. Food molecules - especially the molecules of water - have a positive and negative end in the same way a magnet has a north and a south polarity.

    In commercial models, the oven has a power input of about 1000 watts of alternating current. As these microwaves generated from the magnetron bombard the food, they cause the polar molecules to rotate at the same frequency millions of times a second. All this agitation creates molecular friction, which heats up the food. The friction also causes substantial damage to the surrounding molecules, often tearing them apart or forcefully deforming them. The scientific name for this deformation is "structural isomerism".

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    Microwaves unsafe for baby's milk

    A number of warnings have been made public, but have been barely noticed. For example, Young Families, the Minnesota Extension Service of the university of Minnesota, published the following in 1989:

    "Although microwaves heat food quickly, they are not recommended for heating a baby's bottle. The bottle may seem cool to the touch, but the liquid inside may become extremely hot and could burn the baby's mouth and throat. Also, the buildup of steam in a closed container, such as a baby bottle, could cause it to explode. Heating the bottle in a microwave can cause slight changes in the milk. In infant formulas, there may be a loss of some vitamins. In expressed breast milk, some protective properties may be destroyed. Warming a bottle by holding it under tap water, or by setting it in a bowl of warm water, then testing it on your wrist before feeding may take a few minutes longer, but it is much safer."

    Dr. Lita Lee of Hawaii reported in the December 9, 1989 Lancet:

    "Microwaving baby formulas converted certain trans-amino acids into their synthetic cis-isomers. Synthetic isomers, whether cis-amino acids or trans-fatty acids, are not biologically active. Further, one of the amino acids, L-proline, was converted to its d-isomer, which is known to be neurotoxic (poisonous to the nervous system) and nephrotoxic (poisonous to the kidneys). It's bad enough that many babies are not nursed, but now they are given fake milk (baby formula) made even more toxic via microwaving."

    Microwaved blood kills patient

    In 1991, there was a lawsuit in Oklahoma concerning the hospital use of a microwave oven to warm blood needed in a transfusion. The case involved a hip surgery patient, Norma Levitt, who died from a simple blood transfusion. It seems the nurse had warmed the blood in a microwave oven.

    This tragedy makes it very apparent that there's much more to "heating" with microwaves than we've been led to believe. Blood for transfusions is routinely warmed, but not in microwave ovens. In the case of Mrs. Levitt, the microwaving altered the blood and it killed her.

    It's very obvious that this form of microwave radiation "heating" does something to the substances it heats. It's also becoming quite apparent that people who process food in a microwave oven are also ingesting these "unknowns".

    Because the body is electrochemical in nature, any force that disrupts or changes human electrochemical events will affect the physiology of the body. This is further described in Robert O. Becker's book, The Body Electric, and in Ellen Sugarman's book, Warning, the Electricity Around You May Be Hazardous to Your Health.

    Scientific evidence and facts

    In Comparative Study of Food Prepared Conventionally and in the Microwave Oven, published by Raum & Zelt in 1992, at 3(2): 43, it states

    "A basic hypothesis of natural medicine states that the introduction into the human body of molecules and energies, to which it is not accustomed, is much more likely to cause harm than good. Microwaved food contains both molecules and energies not present in food cooked in the way humans have been cooking food since the discovery of fire. Microwave energy from the sun and other stars is direct current based. Artificially produced microwaves, including those in ovens, are produced from alternating current and force a billion or more polarity reversals per second in every food molecule they hit. Production of unnatural molecules is inevitable. Naturally occurring amino acids have been observed to undergo isomeric changes (changes in shape morphing) as well as transformation into toxic forms, under the impact of microwaves produced in ovens.

    One short-term study found significant and disturbing changes in the blood of individuals consuming microwaved milk and vegetables. Eight volunteers ate various combinations of the same foods cooked different ways. All foods that were processed through the microwave ovens caused changes in the blood of the volunteers. Hemoglobin levels decreased and over all white cell levels and cholesterol levels increased. Lymphocytes decreased.

    Luminescent (light-emitting) bacteria were employed to detect energetic changes in the blood. Significant increases were found in the luminescence of these bacteria when exposed to blood serum obtained after the consumption of microwaved food."
    The underlying issue is the high-paced environment that we put ourself in, that forces us to not take time to properly prepare food, or we work in a place that only has a microwave to prepare food with.

    This brings to mind the Slow (food) Movement
    Quote:The only thing for certain is that everything changes. The rate of change increases. If you want to hang on you better speed up. That is the message of today. It could however be useful to remind everyone that our basic needs never change. The need to be seen and appreciated! It is the need to belong. The need for nearness and care, and for a little love! This is given only through slowness in human relations. In order to master changes, we have to recover slowness, reflection and togetherness. There we will find real renewal.
    Taking time to prepare a good meal from scratch is very therapeutic for me. I slow down and spend time in meditation while cooking/'preparing' (for my lots of raw food culinary embarkments).

    I'm gonna start using my oven to reheat food, try to not rely on the microwave at work by eating foods that don't need to be hot and try other methods of heating also, how would you go about implementing a more natural food (re)preparation in your lifestyles?
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    06-17-2013, 07:59 PM
    Quote:This microwave radiation interacts with the molecules in food. All wave energy changes polarity from positive to negative with each cycle of the wave. In microwaves, these polarity changes happen millions of times every second.

    Thank you for the post, Marc. I didn't know the science about it, but after hearing what was posed a rumor that plants given microwaved water die, and also reading a channeling where the entity talked about "reversing the polarity" (which never sounds good!) I'd recently stopped using it based on guided intuition. I like to err on the side of caution myself. Plus, when we're lazily using the microwave, how often really do we use microwave safe dishes? I know most take-out I get comes in very flimsy plastic or styrofoam containers, which just don't hold up in the microwave. I've been on a chemical detox kick lately though, I recently switched to using baking soda and vinegar for basically everything.

    Cheers and good health to all!

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    06-17-2013, 09:36 PM
    I avoid microwaving 'healthy' food. If it's food that doesn't have alot of nutrition to begin with, I don't worry about it *as* much.

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    06-17-2013, 10:18 PM
    My non-spiritual cousin tried out watering plants with microwaved water, and they slowly died.

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    06-18-2013, 09:46 AM
    (06-17-2013, 10:18 PM)xise Wrote: My non-spiritual cousin tried out watering plants with microwaved water, and they slowly died.

    I would love to see someone try it after blessing the water. It is possible to bless your food after microwaving as a way to reorganize the liquid structure.

    This is actually important to do before eating in any case.
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    06-18-2013, 10:05 AM
    Yes, I was wondering that also. It would take a bit of intelligent energy to reconstruct it and a considerable amount of faith, but isn't that kinda missing point of putting good vibes into your food while preparing it in a pleasant fashion.
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    06-18-2013, 11:23 AM
    My mom ordered a new convection oven. It's supposed to cook frozen chicken in like 30 mins she says. I'm not sure if it uses microwaves, but she bought it to replace our aging microwave oven. She spent $200 on it.
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    06-18-2013, 01:26 PM
    (06-18-2013, 10:05 AM)MarcRammer Wrote: Yes, I was wondering that also. It would take a bit of intelligent energy to reconstruct it and a considerable amount of faith, but isn't that kinda missing point of putting good vibes into your food while preparing it in a pleasant fashion.

    But if you're in a situation where it can't be helped... I microwave burgers for customers because I work at a fast food restaurant. I think that doing what Brown Eye mentioned would be a great service to those who are ordering the food.
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    06-18-2013, 02:12 PM
    @ Aaron:
    Agreed. I could do the same at my work.
    @Gemini wolf:
    That's a pretty good idea! They are much faster than regular ovens.

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    06-18-2013, 02:18 PM
    Yea it just isn't possible to now use one for me. I grill 15lbs of chicken at a time and cook a bunch of sweet potatoes also so I have to use a microwave.

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    06-18-2013, 03:15 PM
    @Gemini Wolf

    Yeah convection ovens just rock!

    (06-18-2013, 02:18 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Yea it just isn't possible to now use one for me. I grill 15lbs of chicken at a time and cook a bunch of sweet potatoes also so I have to use a microwave.

    Why does cooking 15lbs of chicken and sweet potatoes necessitate a microwave?

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    06-18-2013, 04:29 PM
    (06-18-2013, 03:15 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: @Gemini Wolf

    Yeah convection ovens just rock!

    (06-18-2013, 02:18 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Yea it just isn't possible to now use one for me. I grill 15lbs of chicken at a time and cook a bunch of sweet potatoes also so I have to use a microwave.

    Why does cooking 15lbs of chicken and sweet potatoes necessitate a microwave?

    Because I have to reheat it to eat it Tongue

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    06-18-2013, 04:54 PM
    (06-18-2013, 04:29 PM)Jeremy Wrote:
    (06-18-2013, 03:15 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: @Gemini Wolf

    Yeah convection ovens just rock!

    (06-18-2013, 02:18 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Yea it just isn't possible to now use one for me. I grill 15lbs of chicken at a time and cook a bunch of sweet potatoes also so I have to use a microwave.

    Why does cooking 15lbs of chicken and sweet potatoes necessitate a microwave?

    Because I have to reheat it to eat it Tongue
    Ahhhhh good point! Lol

    My grandma has something awesome called an infrared oven. I'm not sure on the science behind it, but it seems much safer than a microwave, and it perfectly (and evenly!) re-heats food in about 5-7 minutes. Its the same size as a microwave too.

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    06-18-2013, 05:12 PM
    (06-18-2013, 04:54 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:
    (06-18-2013, 04:29 PM)Jeremy Wrote:
    (06-18-2013, 03:15 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: @Gemini Wolf

    Yeah convection ovens just rock!

    (06-18-2013, 02:18 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Yea it just isn't possible to now use one for me. I grill 15lbs of chicken at a time and cook a bunch of sweet potatoes also so I have to use a microwave.

    Why does cooking 15lbs of chicken and sweet potatoes necessitate a microwave?

    Because I have to reheat it to eat it Tongue
    Ahhhhh good point! Lol

    My grandma has something awesome called an infrared oven. I'm not sure on the science behind it, but it seems much safer than a microwave, and it perfectly (and evenly!) re-heats food in about 5-7 minutes. Its the same size as a microwave too.

    Definitely sounds like a good idea but unless its portable, I can't take it to work where I eat the majority of my food lol

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    06-18-2013, 05:20 PM
    Yeah it would be something you'd have to buy and place in the break room at work. Then you could turn all your co-workers on to it. :p

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