07-02-2013, 05:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-02-2013, 05:46 PM by Adonai One.)
(07-02-2013, 04:58 PM)spero Wrote: adonai if our logos had chosen not to implement the veiling system and we as sub-sub-logoi couldnt therefore choose any polarity but sto, would u consider that enslavement. Ra certainly says those early creations lacked free will. in allowing veiling/free will the logos has allowed the exact situation you feel so adamant against, that is negative elites which desires to enslave you. i hope u can see the paradox of rallying against the free will which allows another sub-sub-logos the right to enslave you. however you are also within your right to reject this enslavement, although this doesnt build positive polarity (a natural law?) since you're not accepting what they are attempting to give. the natural laws outlined by the logoi can seem unfair at times depending on whether your on the disadvantaged side. even the conditions that define movement through the densities could be taken as something to rebel and rally against. why cant a sts 6d entity push past mid 6d. why should they have to conform just because some higher power set the rules on distortion requirements. this thread has been riveting By the way. i cant keep up with everyones posts lolIt's not enslavement as we are a product of these natural laws. Unless you were born in another galaxy. It's as enslaving as being illusory seperate from the Creator itself. In the end, it's a choice we made. While technically we make all choices. This is the slavery I refer to:
Quote:83.10 Questioner: Was there any uniformity or like functions of societies or social organizations prior to the veil?
Ra: I am Ra. The third density is, by its very fiber, a societal one. There are societies wherever there are entities conscious of the self and conscious of other-selves and possessed with intelligence adequate to process information indicating the benefits of communal blending of energies. The structures of society before as after veiling were various. However, the societies before veiling did not depend in any case upon the intentional enslavement of some for the benefit of others, this not being seen to be a possibility when all are seen as one. There was, however, the requisite amount of disharmony to produce various experiments in what you may call governmental or societal structures.
83.11 Questioner: In our present illusion we have undoubtedly lost sight of techniques of enslavement that are used since we are so far departed from the pre-veil experience. I am sure that many with service-to-others orientation are using techniques of enslavement even though they are not aware these are techniques of enslavement simply because they have been evolved over so long a period of time and we are so deep into the illusion. Is this not correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect.
83.12 Questioner: Then you say that there are no cases where those who are service to others oriented are using in any way techniques of enslavement that have grown as a result of the evolution of our social structures? Is this what you mean?
Ra: I am Ra. It was our understanding that your query concerned conditions before the veiling. There was no unconscious slavery, as you call this condition, at that period. At the present space/time the condition of well-meant and unintentional slavery are so numerous that it beggars our ability to enumerate them.
83.13 Questioner: [Then for a service-to-others oriented entity at this time meditation upon the nature of these little-expected forms of slavery might be productive] in polarization I would think. Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. You are quite correct.
83.14 Questioner: I would say that a very high percentage of the laws and restrictions within what we call our legal system are of a nature of enslavement of which I just spoke. Would you agree with this?
Ra: I am Ra. It is a necessary balance to the intention of law, which is to protect, that the result would encompass an equal distortion towards imprisonment. Therefore, we may say that your supposition is correct. This is not to denigrate those who, in green and blue-ray energies, sought to free a peaceable people from the bonds of chaos but only to point out the inevitable consequences of codification of response which does not recognize the uniqueness of each and every situation within your experience.
Another relevant quote:
Quote:25.6 Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”
Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.
This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.
It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.
It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.