(12-06-2014, 12:20 PM)Jade Wrote: [ -> ]As someone who has long considered whether or not the person I am with is my "twin flame", I'm just not sure I buy the "two halves of one soul incarnated" bit. Ironically, Matt, I think it was Destiny of Souls that convinced me otherwise - why would we incarnate and mate with ourselves? There's not much to learn from that. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, I just think I resonate more with the idea of a "primary soul mate" (again ideas from Destiny of Souls). I think when we are drawn so magnetically to someone it's because we've spent many incarnate lifetimes with them. That's just my opinion and please don't think I am trying to dismiss the idea that she may be your "twin flame", I've just been exploring this concept myself for a while.
Ra speaks of the idea of spending many incarnations with a primary partner:
Quote:84.20 ↥ Questioner: Then, with respect to the green, blue, and indigo transfers of energy: How would the mechanism for these transfers differ in making them possible or setting the groundwork for them than the orange ray? I know this is very difficult to ask and I may not be making any sense, but what I am trying to do is get to an understanding of the foundation for transfers in each of the rays and the preparations for the transfers, you might say, or the fundamental requirements and biases and potentials for these transfers. Could you expand on that for me please? I am sorry for the poor question.
Ra: I am Ra. We would take a moment to state in reply to a previous comment that we shall answer each query whether or not it has been previously covered for not to do so would be to baffle the flow of quite another transfer of energy.
To respond to your query we firstly wish to agree with your supposition that the subject you now query upon is a large one, for in it lies an entire system of opening the gateway to intelligent infinity. You may see that some information is necessarily shrouded in mystery by our desire to preserve the free will of the adept. The great key to blue, indigo, and finally, that great capital of the column of sexual energy transfer, violet energy transfers, is the metaphysical bond or distortion which has the name among your peoples of unconditional love. In the blue-ray energy transfer the quality of this love is refined in the fire of honest communication and clarity; this, shall we say, normally, meaning in general, takes a substantial portion of your space/time to accomplish although there are instances of matings so well refined in previous incarnations and so well remembered that the blue ray may be penetrated at once. This energy transfer is of great benefit to the seeker in that all communication from this seeker is, thereby, refined and the eyes of honesty and clarity look upon a new world. Such is the nature of blue-ray energy and such is one mechanism of potentiating and crystallizing it.
As we approach indigo-ray transfer we find ourselves in a shadowland where we cannot give you information straight out or plain, for this is seen by us to be an infringement. We cannot speak at all of violet-ray transfer as we do not, again, desire to break the Law of Confusion.
We may say that these jewels, though dearly bought, are beyond price for the seeker and might suggest that just as each awareness is arrived at through a process of analysis, synthesis, and inspiration, so should the seeker approach its mate and evaluate each experience, seeking the jewel.
This is what it sounds like is going on with your and your other half, that when you are with her, you are able to unblock each other immediately in ways that no one else knows how. This is why you feel the energy so strongly between you two.
Ra also says that synchronicities between partners comes from previous lifetimes where two have done work together in polarity, which I think goes with the refinery of blue-ray transfers:
Quote:97.5 ↥ Questioner: I have analyzed the hawk that I saw immediately after returning from the house in Atlanta as a message, most probably from my higher self, indicating that the plan of moving was not the best; was not too appropriate since, without the hawk, everything would have continued as planned with no added catalyst. This single catalyst of a remarkable nature then, logically, from my point of view, could only mean that there was a message as to the inappropriateness of the plan for some reason yet to be discovered. Would Ra comment on that?
Ra: I am Ra. We tread as close as possible to the Law of Confusion in suggesting that not all wingèd creatures have an archetypical meaning. We might suggest that the noticing of shared subjectively notable phenomena is common when, in another incarnational experience, work significant to the service of increased polarity has been shared. These subjectively interesting shared phenomena then act as a means of communication, the nature of which cannot be discussed by those outside of the shared incarnational experience without the interference with the free will of each entity involved in the complex of subjectively meaningful events.
For what it's worth, I've been with my husband for 6 years, and I didn't think it was possible for two people to be as close or have the relationship that we do and as immediately as we did. We look the same, we have the same preferences/tastes, we've been through mirrors of the same life experiences - as an example, our parents both got divorced during the exact same week when he was 17 and I was 11. Of course, we have differences that create a dynamic balance but really zero conflict. I truly feel as if he is my one and only to ever have existed, but do I believe as if we're one soul split in two? I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure I believe my soul would split apart and incarnate into two beings that were so similar.
So I apologize if my semantics bothered you, I really do empathize with the feelings you have, except when I met my One, we were ready to be together and didn't hesitate. What it comes down to is free will and what truly makes you happy - if we follow our excitement and joy, we're making the right decisions.
Yes I am of the blue ray and it all corresponds well. And actually the twin flame energy does make perfect sense in that it allows one to find oneself in duality on the physical yet, because of that split, manifest something of the divine on that physical plane. It is true that we leave part of our soul behind when we incarnate, what then is the difference when we choose to actually incarnate in the two polarity's? If you really believe The Law of One, then "why would we incarnate and mate with ourselves" already tells you the answer.
And yeah, our family's have known each other as well, for 30 years or more actually, and including indirect contact, I have not experienced not having known her in some way in this lifetime.
Anyway, I do not get why "mating with yourself" is any different compared to mating with "other" as what we are here are distortions, as Ra puts it elegantly. It's to MANIFEST it in matter, honestly, if we are here just to drift by, and learn, only for our own benefit and sit on cloud 9 then what is the whole point. Incarnating to try to die? What for? Leave to incarnate then to run back on home to feel as you already did? It's all well and good to preach unconditional love, but let's be honest here.
We are human, and humans are heart-based creatures, not mental-based creatures. Because, when you take a good honest look at what is ACTUALLY going on in the world, is that the romantic love of the kind in shakespear etc, is the main source of all inspiration for beauty and the arts. The energy of the romantic lover is that force that moves mountains. Not someone who is mentally telling himself to love "unconditionally".
Not to say it's no less valid, but I think recognizing the interconnectedness and overall kinship is a much better word. But comparable to actual love? No way. Love is not service. Women, do you bear a child, to have it work for you? For service? Really?
We should remember that while we are interconnected we should never loose OUR way of expression, because as I see it, the One mentality has a real danger of becoming a state of "hive mind" and then you will have lost all creativity and spirit inside of you.
If you can't see the reason for that then WHY does a creator actually manifest parts of ITSELF to "mate" with ITSELF? You can't be conscious of yourself if you are already it. Light doesn't illumine itself, a knife doesn't cut itself, fire doesn't burn itself. 2 polarized, smaller lights can shine upon each other, and even create a new 3rd color by combining the "rays", 2 knifes can cut each other. You can incarnate as fire and be fire, or split into water and fire to create steam, just how I see it.
If the purpose was to be one, as is, without seeking that in the other, then creation would not even have meaning or a purpose to it. The only explanation is that a single consciousness creates to have something to be conscious off! The consciousness is the eternal sleeper, we are the dreamers, dreaming it's dream...
I just look at what the cosmos at large is doing, at every scale, and when it comes down to it, it all revolves around particles magnetically rotating around others of it's kin. I consider the difference in soul mates and twin flames, that soul mates are generally a means to an end, to learn, but an actual split, is to make the love you have in you out there, manifest here, by meeting with oneself in polarized nature.