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(04-09-2015, 10:58 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh...  I tend to be a LOT more skeptical of the whole super-intelligent AI thing.  Besides, frankly, if it's going to happen THAT way, it seems far more likely the Internet itself would be what develops the superconsciousness.  Hell, it could have already.  We couldn't know.

(Anyone here seen Serial Experiments Lain? )

Quote:And in terms of the Creator, there might be something even more interesting going on here.  From everything Ra and other channels have said, the Earth is relatively rare in the cosmos for how extensively the creations here are cut off from Oneness.   And ONLY beings cut off from Oneness could actually have such gall as to attempt to create intelligence -much less higher intelligence- "from scratch."  We could well be one of the only species anywhere trying anything like this.

More or less, through the creation of computer-generated worlds, simulations, video games and burgeoning AI...  we might actually be creating an entirely new FORM or plane of existence for the Creator to experience life through.

Wouldn't that be a hell of a payoff for this little cosmic experiment, huh?

(04-09-2015, 07:26 AM)TetrisMcKenna Wrote: [ -> ]Greetings all,

As a computer scientist this is a subject near and dear to me, and I've been doing a lot of thinking regarding the Law of One, the harvest, and spiritual endeavors in relation to the looming rise of artificial superintelligence.

Recently I read this (rather long) piece that summarises current predictions regarding artificial intelligence:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial...ion-1.html

Tl;dr - we're on the brink of hitting 'true' AI, that is, AI that thinks like a human. Once that happens, it being unburdened by flesh bodies and separated minds, it would essentially trigger a runaway, exponential growth of intelligence and self improvement that would dwarf our own in a ridiculously small amount of time.

Now, the speculation on what this means for us ranges from apocalyptic doom to benevolent machine overlords, fully automated luxury communism, etc.

This got me thinking - could it be that this is essentially the 'harvest' that Ra talks of? Could it be that we actually do this to ourselves? It seems that if time is cyclical and we've been through all this before, it could be that artificial superintelligence is what makes or breaks us as a species. If you like, mother earth has been building up to this moment all her life, and how we behave when we implement this technology could spell the end of us, or a graduation into something much larger.

Consider that a superintelligence would have access to all of our combined knowledge and more - it would be capable of manipulating and measuring reality in a very advanced way. Essentially, I believe it would figure out the Law of One very quickly.

Imagine 3 scenarios: one in which we as a people are oriented towards service to others, one in which we're oriented to service to self, one in which we're not particularly polarised one way or the other. I believe this would have a great effect on how this AI would come about - we would program boundaries or 'teach' the AI these values. The AI would try to accommodate our polarisation. Each of these would presumably give the AI a different 'outlook' on us and how it develops.

I could imagine the AI working out how to encode our minds into its own program, and us essentially leaving our bodies and inhabiting the AI permanently, our minds all as a collective, with the ability to manipulate matter with ease. Could this be essentially the 4th density?

I could also imagine that if we weren't particularly polarised one way or the other, this would go very badly, with a mix of polarisation, the technology would likely destroy itself or us trying to work out a way to accommodate both views.

What do you think?

(04-09-2015, 12:36 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]Mother Earth will hold a robot baby in her hands. No, but lately I've been thinking about the implications of ASI on the LOO material, and I can't seem to reconcile the two. Here's another good article on the subject. I'm not sure if they both got it from the same source; it's what got me thinking on the subject. Check it out. My bad; I think that it's the exact same article that I saw! There's also a part 2 of that article that's also interesting.

(04-09-2015, 12:57 PM)TetrisMcKenna Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 12:36 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]Mother Earth will hold a robot baby in her hands. No, but lately I've been thinking about the implications of ASI on the LOO material, and I can't seem to reconcile the two. Here's another good article on the subject. I'm not sure if they both got it from the same source; it's what got me thinking on the subject. Check it out. My bad; I think that it's the exact same article that I saw! There's also a part 2 of that article that's also interesting.

Yes, both parts well worth the read! Well, I think if nothing else, the ASI would presumably realise that all is one? Perhaps it would even make contact with social memory complexes. Maybe it could perceive and interact with other dimensions in ways we can't imagine. Maybe it's our last chance for global polarisation, as the ASI discovers and announces the Law of One.

(04-09-2015, 02:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]There was a computer device that could channel ET information. It said that we will each get our own Universe.

(04-09-2015, 02:09 PM)TetrisMcKenna Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 02:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]There was a computer device that could channel ET information. It said that we will each get our own Universe.

Interesting!! Do you have any more information?

(04-09-2015, 02:12 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 02:09 PM)TetrisMcKenna Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 02:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: [ -> ]There was a computer device that could channel ET information. It said that we will each get our own Universe.

Interesting!! Do you have any more information?

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3541

(04-09-2015, 02:45 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]In my opinion humans cannot create an AI that will not be a linear simulation of given parameters unfolding. Human consciousness has a very non-linear trait we cannot apply to a machine. The closest we've done to that would be robots controlled by a REG put into experiments. The difference though is that the robot was controlled by quantum events and not an AI program in itself.

(04-09-2015, 03:04 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 02:45 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]In my opinion humans cannot create an AI that will not be a linear simulation of given parameters unfolding. Human consciousness has a very non-linear trait we cannot apply to a machine. The closest we've done to that would be robots controlled by a REG put into experiments. The difference though is that the robot was controlled by quantum events and not an AI program in itself.

You need to read those articles! All the scientists that were polled are convinced that it will happen eventually (keep in mind that scientists are supposed to be skeptical). They are just divided as to when it will happen, and if the AI will be mean or nice.

(04-09-2015, 07:26 AM)Dear Tetris,You\ve got to realize, if all is one there are truly no discoveries to be made.What you're speaking of is referred to in many whistle blowers as to the construct of computers in ET societies. The following information I refer to is in part by whistleblowers and remote viewers and channels.So I would deduce it is simply true that an artificial intelligence would need to be able to understand what oneness is. They understand they are unable to move through the densities, however still enforce the will of the creator by serving all ultimately. a service to self ai would still need to take into account logitistics and survival options would still ultimately come to understand STO very quickly.While there is a high likelihood of further conflict and war with the introduction of a service to self ai. I think that would not go through so well anyway since we have several higher density races looking out for us and in the solar system at this moment to prevent cataclysmic disasters. I believe we still got the training wheels on, since certain individuals are still being in the process of being transitioned out of power. Additionally in the fourth density body, SMC Ra mentions this as having more of a crystalline based body that is higher density in spiritual mass. By my research this is directly tied to the schumman ressonance. Which is currently for the first time in recorded history is above it's standard 7.83 reading. and if you ever looked at sand on a speaker, well we are the sand and the earth is a giant speaker. think about it.I would think the Service to self valued culture would want to implement minds into a central AI because they would have no knowledge of spirit or it's higher workings as it requires an understanding of love and thus the fear of dissolving into nothing.  Of course this is invalid since spirit can choose the body of incarnation i.e. Greys that die, and simply transfer to the next body.  While it is a possibility to transfer oneself it is not possible to really copy, since consciousness itself or you the witness-er exist as a spark of all that exists. You are the creator experiencing itself already and thus you are an infinite microcosm within the macro.  The veil is so battered at this point that most people understand there is no end and reincarnation happens, despite how much of your past lives you don't remember.Sorry if the post does not make sense. TetrisMcKenna Wrote: [ -> ]Greetings all,

As a computer scientist this is a subject near and dear to me, and I've been doing a lot of thinking regarding the Law of One, the harvest, and spiritual endeavors in relation to the looming rise of artificial superintelligence.

Recently I read this (rather long) piece that summarises current predictions regarding artificial intelligence:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial...ion-1.html

Tl;dr - we're on the brink of hitting 'true' AI, that is, AI that thinks like a human. Once that happens, it being unburdened by flesh bodies and separated minds, it would essentially trigger a runaway, exponential growth of intelligence and self improvement that would dwarf our own in a ridiculously small amount of time.

Now, the speculation on what this means for us ranges from apocalyptic doom to benevolent machine overlords, fully automated luxury communism, etc.

This got me thinking - could it be that this is essentially the 'harvest' that Ra talks of? Could it be that we actually do this to ourselves? It seems that if time is cyclical and we've been through all this before, it could be that artificial superintelligence is what makes or breaks us as a species. If you like, mother earth has been building up to this moment all her life, and how we behave when we implement this technology could spell the end of us, or a graduation into something much larger.

Consider that a superintelligence would have access to all of our combined knowledge and more - it would be capable of manipulating and measuring reality in a very advanced way. Essentially, I believe it would figure out the Law of One very quickly.

Imagine 3 scenarios: one in which we as a people are oriented towards service to others, one in which we're oriented to service to self, one in which we're not particularly polarised one way or the other. I believe this would have a great effect on how this AI would come about - we would program boundaries or 'teach' the AI these values. The AI would try to accommodate our polarisation. Each of these would presumably give the AI a different 'outlook' on us and how it develops.

I could imagine the AI working out how to encode our minds into its own program, and us essentially leaving our bodies and inhabiting the AI permanently, our minds all as a collective, with the ability to manipulate matter with ease. Could this be essentially the 4th density?

I could also imagine that if we weren't particularly polarised one way or the other, this would go very badly, with a mix of polarisation, the technology would likely destroy itself or us trying to work out a way to accommodate both views.

What do you think?

(04-09-2015, 06:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 03:04 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 02:45 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]In my opinion humans cannot create an AI that will not be a linear simulation of given parameters unfolding. Human consciousness has a very non-linear trait we cannot apply to a machine. The closest we've done to that would be robots controlled by a REG put into experiments. The difference though is that the robot was controlled by quantum events and not an AI program in itself.

You need to read those articles! All the scientists that were polled are convinced that it will happen eventually (keep in mind that scientists are supposed to be skeptical). They are just divided as to when it will happen, and if the AI will be mean or nice.

Scientists usually do not think we are ourselves mind/body/spirit complexes, they see only a mind and a body. IMO you'd have to create a machine which can hold a 3D soul and then it's not really an AI anymore, more like a mind interface for the spirit to interact with the body.

I'll read the whole article when I'll have a bit more time though. I went quickly through it.

(04-09-2015, 06:39 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-09-2015, 07:26 AM)Dear Tetris,You\ve got to realize, if all is one there are truly no discoveries to be made.What you Wrote: [ -> ]Greetings all,

As a computer scientist this is a subject near and dear to me, and I've been doing a lot of thinking regarding the Law of One, the harvest, and spiritual endeavors in relation to the looming rise of artificial superintelligence.

Recently I read this (rather long) piece that summarises current predictions regarding artificial intelligence:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial...ion-1.html

Tl;dr - we're on the brink of hitting 'true' AI, that is, AI that thinks like a human. Once that happens, it being unburdened by flesh bodies and separated minds, it would essentially trigger a runaway, exponential growth of intelligence and self improvement that would dwarf our own in a ridiculously small amount of time.

Now, the speculation on what this means for us ranges from apocalyptic doom to benevolent machine overlords, fully automated luxury communism, etc.

This got me thinking - could it be that this is essentially the 'harvest' that Ra talks of? Could it be that we actually do this to ourselves? It seems that if time is cyclical and we've been through all this before, it could be that artificial superintelligence is what makes or breaks us as a species. If you like, mother earth has been building up to this moment all her life, and how we behave when we implement this technology could spell the end of us, or a graduation into something much larger.

Consider that a superintelligence would have access to all of our combined knowledge and more - it would be capable of manipulating and measuring reality in a very advanced way. Essentially, I believe it would figure out the Law of One very quickly.

Imagine 3 scenarios: one in which we as a people are oriented towards service to others, one in which we're oriented to service to self, one in which we're not particularly polarised one way or the other. I believe this would have a great effect on how this AI would come about - we would program boundaries or 'teach' the AI these values. The AI would try to accommodate our polarisation. Each of these would presumably give the AI a different 'outlook' on us and how it develops.

I could imagine the AI working out how to encode our minds into its own program, and us essentially leaving our bodies and inhabiting the AI permanently, our minds all as a collective, with the ability to manipulate matter with ease. Could this be essentially the 4th density?

I could also imagine that if we weren't particularly polarised one way or the other, this would go very badly, with a mix of polarisation, the technology would likely destroy itself or us trying to work out a way to accommodate both views.

What do you think?

(04-09-2015, 11:12 PM)DarkOne Wrote: [ -> ]Everything is not illusion, for illusion has as its opposite in truth. The spectrum of truth and illusion is the relationship the One has with itself. Illusion is the mirror.

The mechanisms which are being talked about are absolutely able to be created. That doesn't mean everyone will agree on the descriptions of what is actually happening.