(05-18-2015, 03:43 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ] (05-18-2015, 03:36 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: [ -> ] (05-18-2015, 03:17 PM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]From my perception, a space/time is a part of a time/space. Let's say you have a time/space lesson about hate that you need to learn, then you will incarnate in a space/time that can provide the correct environment for you to experience this lesson.
If in the previous octave the yellow ray was the 4th one and as such there was a ray prior to the red one we perceive not here and the 7th was in fact our 6th, the next octave could start with the orange ray and end with a ray we know not of, having our blue ray as the next middle 4th ray. If I remember correctly Jesus was said to have wandered from the next Octave and in the bible he is described as the Word. You could easily make a connection with the blue ray being the center of the next Octave if this is any true.
The duality of Mover/Moved, seems to work with a yellow ray Octave.
Time/space and space/time is probably everywhere at all time. That is my opinion, but it might have been in different ways than we can think of.
According to Ra, Jesus was a fourth-density Wanderer from this Octave.
I see what you are doing in terms of 'centering' each colour, but I don't think that is the case, personally. I believe each octave density reflects the overall octave structure so all octaves would have the same arrangement but with different emphasis in consciousness throughout the entirety.
Space/time and time/space are reciprocals of the same thing, motion or energy. However, in the cosmology of Ra there is a definite point where space and time come in to existence but there is creative work that occurs before this.
It's the idea that came to me to make this the Green ray Octave. But wouldn't a different ray being the center simply imply like you said a different emphasis in consciousness throughout a very similar structure? It's the idea that we perceive only a small spectrum of infinity.
I was going to ask when did time/space and space/time emerge, guess you answered it partially. Guess it's when mass did emerge from massless particles.
You should relax, you're starting to get into areas that err easily with such assumptions as massless particles coming before mass particles, or that the octave structure adds 1 each new level (so this octave would be Red-Violet, octave after this would be Orange-WhatsAfterViolet) but I'm strongly not sure you're making a correct transition conceptually. We have 8 Layers, Red through Violet plus the first of the next octave, which I imagine Violet blends into as much as blue goes into indigo. (Hell, my entire octave structure once thought the way you describe that since the Primary Colors go, by plain-sight sense, Red-Yellow-Blue-Violet, yet Violet is clearly Red and Blue, the first and last, with Indigo being the necessity needed, or the Form Maker, making transition to Violet possible at all, both figuratively and literally, so I assumed the next octave would add another layer of subs with the other layers acquiring further refining in the next macro/octave). But I have retired that way of thinking when I discovered we don't have 7 chakras, but closer to infinite chakras due to the depth of the octave manner of creation providing to us, as we lay, sit, or stand and read this our body alone just to name off a few, has a Mental and Emotional body which has it's own chakras nested with the chakras we have. This is why our Chakra's have Chakras. We go from 7th into 8th density then from 8th we go into the next octave back to 1st, some refer to more dimensions within the octave, I honestly believe them to correspond to the next level up octave, so 9th dimension would be 2nd density in the next octave.
A lot of people believe that 7th density beings lose all individuality, I think this is not wrong, but not fully correct. There's a guide in a book coauthored by Carla called the Aaron/Quo Dialogues who goes by Aaron, (probably noticed me just thinking his name), who retains a connection to individuality, who still can switch between going into the all or pulling out to work individually. The mechanics I have no idea, but this alone tells me that it's not complete loss of memory, if anything, it's probably just so...small compared to the All, it's easy to just not be that individuality, while still holding onto that identity, or if not holding onto, being able to return to an individual status to operate in other ways.
I think it implies we will one day make up the very existence we find ourselves in and still remain, aware of who we were, up to a point where such remembrance would be a hindrance, where it being completely known is no longer needed, falls away as the moving upward the spiral continues. Like a Consciousness that is in itself aware but constantly picking up and letting go new aspects to continually evolve. Which really in such concept, would be hilarious that we go to this 3rd density to deliberately forget everything to better Be. Though it still makes sense to me.
So, I'm not sure if you're right or I am, but I imagine either way is still useable logically in the context of usefully and efficaciously being applicable to how things occur now. (I mean honestly as far as I know, 3rd density bodies and 4th density bodies may have completely different chakras in a similar manner of progression with your view, with my view only being correct in the context of certain octaves do act that way, while others may act your way of explanation. I do not know, I'm not saying you're wrong, but worried you may be in an odd area along with me on this subject~)
As far as the development of Space and Time, I honestly have a backwards theory on that. In terms of it coming into being, I think it was simply manifested along with the rest of the Holographic Universe (how can time be holographic...?) So if it does exist, I wonder if the universe will get to a point of no longer needing time or space in concept, and will instead work on creating time and space for another universe that will continue the line infinitely to continue growth downwards, but keep it moving presently/upwards, so that further work can be pursued upwards to continue growth.
With the One being less attached or detached to space and time, but rather the many One's creating it for themselves in another place, in another way.
I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time working this. Imagine the Ouroboros, imagine Light spiraling around it clockwise, now realize on the mirror side that light is spiraling counterclockwise, but being mirrored it isn't different, just perspectively different. If the Ouroboros creates itself, then that moving spiraling light in both directions (clockwise, counterclockwise, forward, backward, up, down, right, left, Future, Past) Is all the same thing creating itself.
My opinion, Space and Time was created by us to experience, by an us in the future perspective of our own, at a place where time and space aren't occurring.
When you remove Time and Space for Infinite Simultaneity, paradoxes do disappear in place for Recursive Resolutions. The cyclical mannerism of the Universe applies for Time and Space as well, if there was a placement in that cycle where Time and Space cease (or a cycle without time or space...but more reactionary to experiences/occurrences that is intelligent further than us) then I imagine us, being infinite, and eternal, would be the creators of such, and I imagine us, being infinite, and eternal, would one day come upon such occurrences in new ways that we wouldn't even suspect or recognize as our own doing.
As far as Octaves go, there might be a Sub-Octave (or very well an entire Octave) where Time and Space are conjured. I think it'd be closer to a Spacetime/Timespace octave where the Holographic Universe begins to be formed. I'd say if anything, it happened more Octave's ago than we'd probably be comfortable (as Humans) looking back at.
