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(07-05-2015, 06:37 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]2) What do you least enjoy about Bring4th?
When I post some cartoon furry artwork that is mildly suggestive it gets taken off, but other people are allowed to post musics with album artwork showing breasts.
 

5) What do you think about the existing Bring4th Guidelines? Would you make any changes? Why?
I think community should vote on whether certain artworks are allowed. Rather than just deleted.

 
8) What would you do to improve the moderation process?
Maybe allow a user to contact a moderator with a question about suitable artworks to post. And then can ask if that's appropriate in my own thread.

 
10) What can be done to improve any aspect of Bring4th?
I think we should have more flexibility in what we can post in our OWN threads.

Huh y's breasts ok but furries not???????
Well, if someone posts a YouTube video of a band's music the person doesn't really have any control over the artwork being in the video and posting YouTube videos is one of the main ways people share music. Whereas posting a suggestive picture is entirely the choice of the individual and isn't related to anything.

Personally I don't care either way, it just seems like this forum is an outlet for a lot of people and sometimes I'm not always sure what the purpose behind some posts are. Then again, some posts probably are just posted without purpose other than amusement or enjoyment. Perfectly acceptable, but again it just seems like an outlet, which I guess everyone needs in some form.
Maybe the answer is to create an "adult" sub-forum in the Treehouse with warnings on it of NSFW and that if you go in be ready that there may be things you may not be comfortable with.

I think if this was made on the hidden forum then it wouldn't even be seen by guests and so wouldn't reflect the general forums.
(07-06-2015, 03:01 AM)Farseer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, if someone posts a YouTube video of a band's music the person doesn't really have any control over the artwork being in the video and posting YouTube videos is one of the main ways people share music. Whereas posting a suggestive picture is entirely the choice of the individual and isn't related to anything.

Personally I don't care either way, it just seems like this forum is an outlet for a lot of people and sometimes I'm not always sure what the purpose behind some posts are. Then again, some posts probably are just posted without purpose other than amusement or enjoyment. Perfectly acceptable, but again it just seems like an outlet, which I guess everyone needs in some form.

You need more outlets of amusement and enjoyment. 

In my own name, I command thee to post 7 times in the "funny pictures of animals" thread.
reflect???????? i ask again. how r breasts ok?

by ur logic i can post a very explicit video but not a mild still from it.
Like I said, for myself I don't have any issues either way. I am very comfortable with physicality, but not everyone is. That's why I suggested the adult forum.
(07-06-2015, 03:19 AM)Minyatur Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2015, 03:01 AM)Farseer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, if someone posts a YouTube video of a band's music the person doesn't really have any control over the artwork being in the video and posting YouTube videos is one of the main ways people share music. Whereas posting a suggestive picture is entirely the choice of the individual and isn't related to anything.

Personally I don't care either way, it just seems like this forum is an outlet for a lot of people and sometimes I'm not always sure what the purpose behind some posts are. Then again, some posts probably are just posted without purpose other than amusement or enjoyment. Perfectly acceptable, but again it just seems like an outlet, which I guess everyone needs in some form.

You need more outlets of amusement and enjoyment. 

In my own name, I command thee to post 7 times in the "funny pictures of animals" thread.
I'll take some pics of my cats being silly.
(07-06-2015, 03:26 AM)Farseer Wrote: [ -> ]Like I said, for myself I don't have any issues either way. I am very comfortable with physicality, but not everyone is. That's why I suggested the adult forum.

it's been suggested :-/ the mods weren't onboard.
I do remember the last time that this issue came up and the discussion and I believe you're right. However, perhaps it wasn't the right time for it. It does seem to me that the forum would flow a lot more smoothly if there was a space where people can let out the more raw side of being human. I think sometimes everyone is so focused on being 'higher beings' that the primal nature is neglected or suppressed.
As mentioned elsewhere, I check this forum from work often. I would appreciate no nudity or sexually suggestive artwork, but album artwork can get a pass most of the time. Of course, I'm sure there are album covers out there featuring nudity which are not in good taste that I would feel are equally inappropriate for this forum.

The best solution does seem to be creating a NSFW section as suggested. I can think of two potential problems with that, however. If that sort of borderline pornographic material is allowed, it could open the door to more non-cartoon borderline pornographic material. The second concern I am not sure on, but I think it could be possible the forums could be classified as 'adult' and get filtered out by firewalls and/or search engines with safe browsing enabled.

Overall, I will say I respect anyone who views any kind of 'artwork' that starts leaning more a bit heavily towards errotica. But the current rules of this society don't allow that kind of stuff to be too public. You or I may not agree with that, but we have to live with it. Hypothetically, I may enjoy hanging up a calendar with attractive scantly-clad women, but I know better not to hang it up at work no matter how tasteful I find it.
this isn't about that it's about breasts being ok but furries not! it's discrimination of furries!

Splash

I composed a reply to this... but then realised we were asked not to reply to peoples questionnaires... (weren't we?)
(07-06-2015, 05:18 AM)Splash Wrote: [ -> ]I composed a reply to this... but then realised we were asked not to reply to peoples questionnaires... (weren't we?)

I think it was to not turn the other thread into a discussion.

Splash

oh.. right...

okay... - part of my reply discusses IGW's feedback and feelings within his reply to the questionnaire... but I shouldn't do that without asking him permission to discuss him... is that correct ?  Smile
i'm not discussing Gemini Wolf but the issue of uneven censorship he brought up. but to discuss him yes u should ask permission.
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oh.. right... 


okay... - part of my reply discusses IGW's feedback and feelings within his reply to the questionnaire... but I shouldn't do that without asking him permission to discuss him... is that correct ?  Smile

Better be sure than sorry, but I doubt GW would have problem with it.
(07-06-2015, 05:45 AM)Bluebell Wrote: [ -> ]i'm not discussing Gemini Wolf but the issue of uneven censorship he brought up.

My thoughts on your thread.
I am sure the purpose of his feedback was to attempt to bring attention to these thoughts, but I would like to hear his own opinion/explanation before considering his feedback as an 'issue'. Also, you are expressing this as though the furry pictures are always deleted, but lots of them aren't so I don't think it's an issue of discriminating against furries.
i'm expressing no such thing, actually. i'm ASKING.
Asking whom, the moderators?
My own question would be, why is everybody hidden? I feel like I'm dealing with ghosts. There's currently 6 members online of which 4 are invisible.
It's alliiiiiivvveeee!
(07-06-2015, 05:56 AM)Farseer Wrote: [ -> ]Asking whom, the moderators?

who else Smile
(07-06-2015, 05:58 AM)Farseer Wrote: [ -> ]It's alliiiiiivvveeee!

made me think of this

 
that better not have any breasts in it!
Treehuggers Treehouse isn't open to the public, you have to be logged in. And my thread is in that forum.
indeed and putting a warning in the title and first post should be enough
If they mildly suggested it, it could mean many things, e.g., they didn't like the content bc it's NSFW or too graphic or suggestive, or they lack the understanding of Anthro-human bond, or whatnot. It can make for a good conversation to clear those things up. I don't think there's any attempt at censorship unless it violates guidelines and people are bound to be offended bc we all have different values and whatnot. I mean someone keeps getting offended when I post cats in human clothing (lol jk). 

Splash

(07-06-2015, 06:15 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Treehuggers Treehouse isn't open to the public, you have to be logged in. And my thread is in that forum.

Hi IndigoGeminiWolf Smile

I sincerely respect your sexual and romantic orientation; but (personally) I don't think any of our sexual and/or intimate desires are relevant to share with this community.

The Ra material isn't sexuality/tantra/physical intimacy based... and imo this community wasn't set up to include conversations about sexual desire or to provide sexual therapy or sexual release.

However, maybe the majority of this community wants to change to include that... I've read only about 10-20% of this website... haven't read most of your furry threads in the treehouse... though I do recall a while back seeing some sexualised images of anthros and conversations that were about sexual desire...

imo - if members want to modify B4th to allow graphic imagery and NSFW sexual discussions/expressions of any kind, it should be something for everyone to have a big talk about

and Mods should have the final say...

Why?

- because we don't pay anything for this website - or all of their hard work for L/L and Bring4th.

We aren't their employers, so ultimately Mods don't answer to us... they're employees of and have allegiance to L/L and it's original and CORE mission statement/principles/objectives.

(IGW - I feel that you share/d because you are listened to and cared about on B4, and as your desire isn't directly achievable in 3D, the closest you can get to it - is to speak of it with friends and share images of your ideal of attractiveness, and perhaps finding other furries here (?).
This allows you the 'next best thing' to soothe your feelings - by expressing your desires... yearnings... amongst people you feel safe with and who understand 'reality' and Love - is multi-dimensional.
I feel that for you this is important and actually very useful.)

However, imo - sexuality is - to humans and wanderers - such a private and powerful experience that bringing it into these forums is a rather big energetic shift, even if marked 'NSFW'.

Sexuality, desire (et al) and the sharing of it - is a subtle, permission based experience between consenting partners.

Offline - there are increments of permission involved, interpersonal indications, exchanges of energies - available to be 'read' and reacted to (accepted or rejected) on a moment by moment basis...

but online... no such ongoing permission occurs... reading words, seeing images, on a thread - which you have no way of accurately knowing or negotiating the content of in advance, (or of erasing what you've read - from your thoughts - afterwards)... is quite problematic - as although a source of healing, joy, fun, expressiveness, information, etc - it can also confuse, repulse, stress, cause unwanted physical arousal, and/or trigger people, in a way that can be very intense, random - and difficult to keep energetically safe/clear.

were there a 'room'/thread here on B4 for sexuality/erotica/similar imo it would be strange...

sort of like... I see a closed door... and I don't want to enter or participate... but natural curiosity means I do.. and I back out of there fast maybe feeling okay but maybe feeling strange...
...like how most people don't want to see their parents having sex or even discuss it with them... that's how the energy is for me...

- when I read about others sexuality or share about mine... that actual interaction itself is heading into the territory of sexual energy exchange...

so for me that's why I only discuss it with a lover/partner... because otherwise it's a sexual type of exchange and for me with someone I'm platonic with that feels - "eeeeeouwww... back off"

This issue is like smokers and non-smokers...
- both have the right to what kind of activity and environment they choose - but it's incompatible to have those environments occurring simultaneously...

there are ways of discussing 'spirituality and sexuality', that are 'academic' but I don't think that's what's being spoken of here.
If it is... I would still say that without leadership - preferably from a sexuality/spirituality therapist (or similar) there's too much possibility of accidental mental/emotional contamination...  the "eeeeouww" factor...

nb: this doesn't mean furries (for example) are ""eeeeouwww"... but that (for me) your (any-one's) desire/arousal isn't my business...

clearly it's different for others and they can separate/disengage and that's fine... my feedback is about myself and people who feel similar... as I said it's like smokers/non-smokers.. the needs are directly incompatible...

(nb: it's not a pejorative towards those who want to share about sexuality - with the analogy of smokers - ie: that it's negative to share/positive to be private btwSmile
nor that other peoples sexual desires are all "eeeeeouww" to me... it's that I'm fine to read about desires separate from knowing who has them and be interested/educated etc... but I don't want to know about the specific sexual desires and who has them - in this 'community'... for me it's "too much information" (capiche?) Tongue

Buuuut... this is just my feelings... if enough members here want it differently.. a special "sex cafe/chat room/forum/thread" - well I wouldn't 'oppose' it...

but I would feel that it should be set up (somehow) independent of Bring4th

Why?

- L/L's mission statement and setting up of Bring4th, is due to 3 brave and dedicated individuals who sacrificed so much to undertake spiritual research that resulted into VERY HIGH QUALITY information from loving, highly evolved, completely integrated group soul complexes.

I feel we owe it to the Spirit of this gift to us, to be as respectful to each other, as polite, as adhering to the rules, as we can; and to engage in spiritual research, and discussion to that end as much as possible. There are so many other places online for other needs and expressions.

Also, this site has it's areas for casual chatting/pm's ... but threads get derailed (or turn into one sentence conversations/replies back and forth) so often it's exasperating...


IGW... I think you should share your sexuality... it must be lonely and sad to have such a non 3D 'orientation'...
but here on B4? I'm not sure this is the right place... perhaps in the members only forum marked NSFW or in pm's... or are there websites/forums you can invite your friends from here to join you on?



PS: re 'breasts'... either we should have all genders bodies nudity allowed - or female breasts should be censored also...

it's f***** that the western world allows the hyper-sexualising of women - but the equivalent nudity for men (male genitals) is being still covered up - it bugs me a lot. Not that I want to see either... but that it should all be shown or none be shown... not just womens b00bs to sell products  :@

ie: massive breasts falling out of tiny bras (but the 'nipple isn't showing so the breast isn't "naked") ie: complete sexual objectification (for example): IS allowed on facebook... but a fbk page of breast feeding mothers gets banned...

SO WRONG ! 0_0  Sad  :@
Without wading too deep into the discussion here, I just wanted to toss in that I also think adding a dedicated NSFW board is a pretty decent idea. After all, sex and sexuality can definitely be part of the spiritual experience. And just because Ra didn't talk much about tantra or other spiritual sex practices, it doesn't mean we can't.

It would pretty much resolve this whole problem by creating a space where people are free to talk about sexual issues OR people are free to ignore entirely, just based on their personal preferences.
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