Quote:SYMPTOMS THAT CAN RESULT FROM A MASTURBATION HABIT
1. Rapid aging and an early death. This is a horrible syndrome in which one’s vitality goes down and one may feel exhausted, even as a teenager, or as a young man or woman. The hair may turn gray, the body may become thin and lose muscle, and one feels old. This is why masturbation, which some feel is okay, is really a form of slow death or suicide.
2. Irritability and unsteadiness. The most common symptom is a kind of irritability, emotional unsteadiness, low self-esteem, loss of willpower, and a certain type of weakness of the mind and the body. One also often becomes more lazy, and thinking is definitely impaired.
Both the speed of the mind, and the memory are impaired when sexual fluids are depleted. Most people notice this even after regular sex. They often mistakenly think it is a sign of ‘love’ or ‘relaxation’. However, it is the same type of ‘relaxation’ one gets from using drugs or alcohol. It is more like a type of deep fatigue, mild stupor or trance state, and is not the same as real relaxation.
3. Sexual fluid depletion. No matter what anyone tells you, this is a total disaster. It is a nutritional and etheric disaster, and it gives rise to aging, unsteadiness, tremors, lack of courage and willpower, and more.
4. Sexual fluid craving. Women, in particular, who lose a lot of sexual fluids, all develop Sexual Fluid Craving. Please read about this, ladies, as it is a very important article on this website. Men can develop this condition, also, craving male or even occasionally female fluids, but it is not as common.
Women may say that they re-absorb their sexual fluids, so it is not a problem. This is true to some degree, and is the reason that women can handle occasional masturbation better than most men. However, frequent masturbation, too much sex, vegetarian diets, junk food diets and rapes, in particular, deplete women terribly of precious sexual fluids. Often the nutrients are never replaced and the woman suffers fatigue, depression, brain fog and other problems for the rest of her life. (There is no need to suffer, however, as this can be overcome with a complete nutritional balancing program). Also, down sex does not cause this problem nearly as badly. For more, read the article Down Sex on this site.
5. Loss of vigor. Electrically, the body is discharged and the person loses his or her vigor. This is a very critical effect. Also, the sodium/potassium ratio tends to decrease, which is another sign of loss of vitality in some subtle way.
Loss of vigor means one loses ambition, excitement with life, and perhaps some mental capacity.
6. Prostate problems in boys and men. This can occur because the prostate gland requires a lot of zinc and selenium, and these can easily become depleted by repeated masturbation. I know that some doctors recommend having plenty of sex for prostate problems. I do not agree with this.
7. Acne, dermatitis, eczema, other skin diseases and hair loss. This also has to do with zinc depletion, particularly in boys and young men.
8. Women may gain weight on the hips.
9. Damage to the first and second energy centers or chakras. This is a bit esoteric, but very important. It affects the brain, as well as the sexual and other pelvic organs. For more, read The Energy Centers on this website.
10. Orgasms all cause energy to flow upward and tend to weaken the body. This is another subtle problem, but it is real. For more, read Down Energy And Healing on this website.
11. Psychologically, masturbation is a form of self-absorption and fantasy, and this is not healthful. Far better to volunteer and help others, or get a job. Distract yourself, rather do not become self-absorbed.
12. Masturbation is addictive, in some cases. Masturbation fits the definition of an addiction. It is a behavior that provides some pleasure, but then weakens the person so that one craves more of the same behavior afterwards. Please read Addiction for much more on this important aspect of masturbation.
13. Masturbation tends to make one more attracted to homosexual acts. This is not helpful.
14. It definitely weakens the brain and nervous system. It can cause or contribute to slow thinking, memory loss, brain fog, irritability, depression, anger, and stupidity.
15. Spins all of the energy centers or chakras backwards. This is a type of trauma to the energy system of the body.
16. It is a huge waste of time and energy.
17. It makes the body more “yin” in Chinese medical terminology, which allows stray discarnate entities to enter and lodge in one’s energy field. This is disruptive, and can even cost you your life.
Entity attachment may also occur due to having too much sex, or due to a rape. For more on this, please read Entity Attachment And Release on this website.
18. As stated above, masturbation causes loss of vital nutrients that are quite difficult and slow to replace. Restoring the zinc and selenium, alone, can take several years of basically sexual abstinence to recover fully.
19. It tends to make a person secretive, which is not a good idea because it can lead to other secretive behaviors.
20. As mentioned earlier, masturbation often is associated with the pornography habit, which is always harmful.
21. Repeated masturbation is a type of trauma, not unlike rape, in some ways. These effects include nutritional depletion, and causing shame, embarrassment, low self-esteem and others.
22. It can cause infections of the genitals from excessive handling of them, and from nutritional and etheric depletion of these organs.
23. It tends to harm interpersonal relationships – children with parents, and adults with their partners. Often masturbation starts because a child feels that a parent is not there – usually the father. Often, the relationship with the mother is affected as well, and the mother may be cold and unloving as a cause of masturbation, especially in boys.
24. It may slow emotional maturing. Instead, a person lives in a little fantasy land, often with delusions of grandeur.
25. It can lower the testosterone level in boys.
26. It can be a type of ‘gateway’ into drug use, since drug use is also a type of self-absorption.
27. It tends to open one up to outside influences. This is because it makes the body more yin. In fact, some doctors and psychologists may tell you it is okay to masturbate because they want to control you.
http://drlwilson.com/Articles/MASTURBATION.htm
What do you guys think?
The effect is orgasm or disappointment, that's all.
I've actually heard that having an orgasm helps people to look young. So there's some conflicting information there.
And as Farseer said, the net result is simply an orgasm. So masturbation or sex with someone else is not really any different from each other.
(07-17-2015, 05:13 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]I've actually heard that having an orgasm helps people to look young. So there's some conflicting information there.
And as Farseer said, the net result is simply an orgasm. So masturbation or sex with someone else is not really any different from each other.
I don't know, but reducing or stopping requires an enormous discipline.
Blood cells are made from stem cells. Sperm cells are also made from stem cells. That means if someone ejaculate frequently, there will be much less stem cells to produce sufficient blood cells in the body.
It will overload the bone marrow wich produce the stem cells. I don't believe the science tells us always the truth.
(07-17-2015, 07:23 PM)darklight Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2015, 05:13 PM)Lighthead Wrote: [ -> ]I've actually heard that having an orgasm helps people to look young. So there's some conflicting information there.
And as Farseer said, the net result is simply an orgasm. So masturbation or sex with someone else is not really any different from each other.
I don't know, but reducing or stopping requires an enormous discipline.
Blood cells are made from stem cells. Sperm cells are also made from stem cells. That means if someone ejaculate frequently, there will be much less stem cells to produce sufficient blood cells in the body.
It will overload the bone marrow wich produce the stem cells. I don't believe the science tells us always the truth.
What I do know is that ejaculation, for me, significantly hampers my meditation. I can only achieve so much during meditation on a day that I've ejaculated. I'm just glad that I'm not a teenager that absolutely has to masturbate. That would render my meditation nil.
All I know is that I used to masturbate a lot when I was younger, and people are always surprised when I tell them how old I am. A lot of people tend to think that I'm in my early 20s when I am, in fact, in my late 30s. That's probably TMI, but I'm sure that we're all adults here.
Edit: And I've had that reaction from 10 year olds (when I tell them my real age). So it's not just from adults who are used to lying.
That's the biggest load of nonsense i have seen in a while. You might as well add if you do it to much its going to get pulled of!
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26. It can be a type of ‘gateway’ into drug use, since drug use is also a type of self-absorption.
I mean really! what!
Quote:8. Women may gain weight on the hips.
LOL
Quote: Prostate problems in boys and men.
Masturbating has been shown to reduce the risks of Prostate cancer not cause them.
This list is poorly researched and garbage.
Edit, I just had another look and saw this.
Quote:13. Masturbation tends to make one more attracted to homosexual acts. This is not helpful.
What a horrible thing to say to any one LBGT. Sounds like it was written by a evangelical christian.
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Quote:21. Repeated masturbation is a type of trauma, not unlike rape, in some ways. These effects include nutritional depletion, and causing shame, embarrassment, low self-esteem and others.
HAHA this is gold dust for a good laugh, i assume you didn't read through this list before you posted it, i really hope you didn't..
I've read that it depletes you of your 'life force' or some such energy. Not sure as to the validity of it though.
17. has the most merit in my opinion. Other than that there seems to be a lot of dogma interspersed. A good list to practise discernment on if nothing else.
Hey, what about going blind or getting hairy palms?!?!
That list is clearly and sensationally bogus.
That being said, I do believe masturbation has a very real draining effect on your creative life force. It's unfortunate that many people will read that list, laugh it off, and not dedicate much thought or consideration to the topic.
I also think it's unfortunate that many people do not experiment with this powerful system of energy -- including, or especially!, people who are interested in & dedicated to exploring the body's energy systems via meditation, mindful thoughts, diet, etc. -- and instead get stuck in cycles where their energy is depleted after only building to a certain level.
Now please don't misunderstand. I am not saying everyone has to do what I do, or do anything at all, really. I am only saying that this is an area worth consideration, if you feel so inclined, and one that shouldn't be written off because of a poorly written, sensationalist article.
When I've tried masturbating at times, I'll get a rush of blood to my brain which almost makes me pass out.
hahahaha i guess its one of those things if done in balance is all good.
(07-17-2015, 02:40 PM)darklight Wrote: [ -> ]What do you guys think?
so surely with such a list, you would want to engage in energy transfers with another human being?
(07-18-2015, 09:40 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2015, 02:40 PM)darklight Wrote: [ -> ]What do you guys think?
so surely with such a list, you would want to engage in energy transfers with another human being?
Nice pick up line!
the thing is, even if half the things on that list were true, then why would you want to engage in such an activity?
it's also understandable that there are situations where we can't find sexual partners, or that we're not in a committed loving relationship to have these higher level energy transfers. And yet, abstinence is not a very good answer.
There are ways to use the sexual function that are not draining. If you want a more positive, constructive take on things, then Mantak Chia has some relevant thoughts. Not everything he propounds if of complete legitimacy (but hey, that's almost always the case when you assess a body of work by another human being), but he offers some great (and iconoclastic) views on how to recirculate one's sexual power.
It has it's roots in Daoism. And, of course, has claims to mystical chinese abilities. Whether you want to/are open to believing him is another matter altogether. Just saying that's an alternative viewpoint to the one offered in the OP.
(07-18-2015, 07:28 AM)Nicholas Wrote: [ -> ]17. has the most merit in my opinion. Other than that there seems to be a lot of dogma interspersed. A good list to practise discernment on if nothing else.
Surprise nick we all have our secrets behind this subject and yes I think nick you could no more than me about this subject does any one ever no 17
(07-19-2015, 01:50 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: [ -> ]
the thing is, even if half the things on that list were true, then why would you want to engage in such an activity?
it's also understandable that there are situations where we can't find sexual partners, or that we're not in a committed loving relationship to have these higher level energy transfers. And yet, abstinence is not a very good answer.
There are ways to use the sexual function that are not draining. If you want a more positive, constructive take on things, then Mantak Chia has some relevant thoughts. Not everything he propounds if of complete legitimacy (but hey, that's almost always the case when you assess a body of work by another human being), but he offers some great (and iconoclastic) views on how to recirculate one's sexual power.
It has it's roots in Daoism. And, of course, has claims to mystical chinese abilities. Whether you want to/are open to believing him is another matter altogether. Just saying that's an alternative viewpoint to the one offered in the OP.
Yes plenum maybe suggesting masturbation is a personal thing as in what position I think
Someone I know won't say who but I think likes the sitting up choice where as my favourite position is also either sitting up or on my side nick I love you x x
(08-30-2015, 07:30 PM)Furry rabbit Wrote: [ -> ] (07-19-2015, 01:50 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: [ -> ]
the thing is, even if half the things on that list were true, then why would you want to engage in such an activity?
it's also understandable that there are situations where we can't find sexual partners, or that we're not in a committed loving relationship to have these higher level energy transfers. And yet, abstinence is not a very good answer.
There are ways to use the sexual function that are not draining. If you want a more positive, constructive take on things, then Mantak Chia has some relevant thoughts. Not everything he propounds if of complete legitimacy (but hey, that's almost always the case when you assess a body of work by another human being), but he offers some great (and iconoclastic) views on how to recirculate one's sexual power.
It has it's roots in Daoism. And, of course, has claims to mystical chinese abilities. Whether you want to/are open to believing him is another matter altogether. Just saying that's an alternative viewpoint to the one offered in the OP.
Yes plenum maybe suggesting masturbation is a personal thing as in what position I think
Someone I know won't say who but I think likes the sitting up choice where as my favourite position is also either sitting up or on my side nick I love you x x
That was a private sinario meaning nothing to do with you but me
I do not resonate with any of this :l
-Embarrassed-
Personally speaking... Masturbation is exempt from polarity concerns for the most part and even guides will offer you privacy if you ask them too.
HOWEVER, I have found there is porn that is highly damaging in.ways you've described masturbation to be. I actually wanted to make a discussion thread about it, but had no idea how to pitch it to Plenum LOL xD
If anything my stopping such an act actually makes me depressed. Maybe this is true for others, but not for me.
I actually read a L/L Research channeling transcript on this topic yesterday, I'll see if I can find it to post here. Basically it was explained that one can abstain from this act and use the energy in workings. Or one can practice this act in a form of spiritual seeking. However, for the most part it is relatively harmless and of little consequence.
EDIT: Found the transcript, here is the relevant potion.
G: Final one from me, Q’uo. This question comes from a “friend.” This “friend” wants to know if the activity known as masturbation expends vital energy that would otherwise be available for higher charka activity?
There are two answers to this query, for there are two levels of masturbation. The physical body of your species is naturally sexual and has a natural capacity for sexuality. If an entity does not masturbate, when the period of time has come in which sexual energy has been built up to the point where there is a need for release, masturbation will take place without any help; it will occur as a night dream or something of that nature. So, on that level, masturbating when there is a build-up of sexual energy and no appropriate outlet with another partner has little impact upon the amount of energy or essence of self that is preserved for metaphysical work.
However, there is a legitimate point to be made in terms of the dedication of the self to spiritual seeking in that there is a magical aspect which can be accessed by the seeker who wishes to dedicate the energy that would otherwise be used in sexual release to the winding of the coil, shall we say.
However, it is equally true that sex itself may be used, whether in masturbation or sexual congress with another, to express positive polarity and the worship of the one infinite Creator. The mind is preeminent in this matter. Depending upon how a seeker feels about his sexuality, he may find it more skilful to work with refraining from sexual expression in terms of how he personally is impacted by the experience of reserving his sexual energy for winding of the magical coil. Or, depending upon the entity and his personality and the way he feels about his body, he may find that it is more helpful to create a spiritually-dedicated masturbation in which the object is to experience that orgasm which is the steady state of the one infinite Creator, that inexpressible and inutterable intensity of unconditional love that is the ecstasy at the heart of the experience of orgasm.
The body is the creature of the mind. We would encourage your friend not to focus upon sex until he has focused upon who he is, how he expresses his essence, how he feels is the most resonant way to manage his humanity in the sense of his red-ray sexuality.
May we answer you further, my brother? We are those of Q’uo.
G: No, the friend (ahem!), thanks you.
It's great as long as you don't try to cut off the orgasm during it. I did and got a painful case of blue balls and my orgasms haven't been good since.
Well that transcript answers one experience I had during work in consciousness. I had an experience I thought was on tier with being with a loving succubus during one morning before bed (work graveyards) and overall it felt like, and sorry if this is tmi, seems relevant, and it felt like waves of energy blanket you then gently release into pleasure that spreads across your whole body once done. And it just lasts for a good 15 minutes of just pulsating cozy good feels, feet get all curly and fingers twitch. Like Just laying there reveling in this kind of joy that can't be called an emotion, but a physical sensation-like emotive experience.
Masturbation aint bad for you haha, if you have a clear chakra system and want to just love yourself, you might end up with a good aftereffect
On the other end, I know your pain Gem. One of my ex's was into orgasm denial.
Just No.
"Service" to self. Got it. ;-)