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The beings depicted in this tv show "V" are absolutely real. There are STS entities called the "Vay" and their form is humanoid, they travel through the depths of space in search of conquest of both souls and resources. Their ships really are that ugly (as in the 2009 series) and their uniforms really are red (as in the original 1983 series). Obviously this show is channeled information, but how many people know this? Who else knows that "reptiles under human skin" is just a metaphor, a way of explaining alien incarnation into a human body? I'm dying to discuss this with someone.
(05-15-2010, 03:22 AM)planetz Wrote: [ -> ]The beings depicted in this tv show "V" are absolutely real. There are STS entities called the "Vay" and their form is humanoid, they travel through the depths of space in search of conquest of both souls and resources. Their ships really are that ugly (as in the 2009 series) and their uniforms really are red (as in the original 1983 series). Obviously this show is channeled information, but how many people know this? Who else knows that "reptiles under human skin" is just a metaphor, a way of explaining alien incarnation into a human body? I'm dying to discuss this with someone.

Hi Planetz,

I did not know that this was channeled information because I have not come across anything about this race of aliens yet, BUT when I first saw the advertisements for V, it rang true for me---as reality disguised as science fiction/fantasy and made palatable for a large audience. I would like to learn what you know about the subject.

love and light,
origin
Yeah, it rang true to me too the first time I saw what it was about. Eerie.
I've seen a youtube video that essentially proves that George Bush Sr. is controlled by a reptile. The CNN reporter is the best evidence of their capability to shapeshift within us.

Other than that, I don't know much of aliens. Please do elaborate with whatever you do know. I've never heard of Vay.
Very bizarre coincidence, that you mention George Bush. Origin and Debaser, my wife says the same thing, that she feels the "V" story is true somehow, a real story channeled and made palatable for a mainstream audience. I don't usually discuss it with her any deeper for two reasons. One is she's unfamiliar with the Ra material and wouldn't be able to put the info into any sort of context. Two is the information I have is subjective, which I'll be up front about here. That's one big reason why I'm looking for online discussion about this show, is I"m looking for confirmation that the "Vay" are real, and looking for comfort that other people besides me know about them and maybe have had experience with them. But "V" has got to be the most elusive google search term ever. It's been a very frustrating search. My story about how I learned about the "Vay" is very personal and kinda crazy. That's actually the third and most important reason why I don't discuss the "V" show with my wife. She already thinks I"m crazy as it is. She sees me leaving in the middle of an episode with tears streaming down my face, and she knows the reason I refuse to finish the troublesome episodes is because I'm ebarassed for her to see me cry. I don't want to add to that humiliation.

In the eightees when the original "V" series was being aired I was just a kid, and the same thing would happen. I'd go catatonic watching it and sit there frozen with tears streaming down my face until someone pulled me away from the tv. Kids do sometimes get scared by things on television, but I wasn't that kid. Sill, when my parents realised how bothered I was they forbade me from watching it, and I forgot all about it. Until almost thirty years later the new "V" remake came on just a few months ago and I realised it still had the same affect on me. IT feels like a trance, and I feel the tears on my face but I"m not even sure why I'm crying.

Around the same time earlier this year I was going to therapy for deposession, or spirit release, whatever you call it. Spirit attachment is when the soul of a deceased person attaches to someone still living as a way to continue their drug or alcohol addictions, or whatever else. It's a common problem that most people are unaware they are affected by. I had several spirit attachments, men and women, from different cultures, one from Mexico, one from Argentina, one from Pittsburgh, each of them attached for different reasons. One method I learned for gleaning information about each of my attachments was to regress back into their past life as if I were regressing into my own childhood or my own past life. It made therapy much faster and effective.

Well I really wanted to know why the "V" show affected me so one night after sitting alone and confronting my feelings about a particular scene I started getting memories of day-to-day life on an actual spaceship, as an actual crew member, a fat blonde-haired ship commander in a red uniform. Detailed memories, about daily life as an appearant STS being, judging from the Ra material I'd read a year earlier. I estimated that this was another spirit attachment I'd been unaware of before, even though the mechanism for attachment was different, more of a trans-dimentsional window into my energy field where someone or something is lying dormant on a ship parked outside earth's astral field, waiting for the right time to take control of my body, my incarnation. That was unsettling to learn. I'll call him DT. I continued persuing DT for information like I'd persued the others. I learned about his motivations and his Vay friends, why they came to earth, so far have amassed quite a lot of information but with no one to share it with.

Appearantly the "V" show is close enough to the DT's actual reality that it is almost triggering him forward prematurely. That is why the show bothers me, is DT is getting stirred up just enough where all his stratified ejected emotional material muddies my energy field like mud in a glass of water. As a wanderer who can sometime pierce through my own veil, I already know that STS entities eject their emotional material as a matter of routine (eject, as in opposite of suppress). "Vay" is my own phonetic spelling of what his group is called. There is no 'spelling' per se, obviously they wound't be using our alphabet. But they do have a symbol, and it is a widened "V" but gently arching on both sides. You see this same arch in the eyebrows of "anna" on the new show. Little details like that that have value in the real story of the Vay are embued with an etheric signature that pulls your attention when you see it. And that is exactly why you probably feel so intrigued by Anna's eyebrows when you see them, even though you don't know why.

I was going to tie this in with Bush Sr. and Bush Jr but it's just taking so long to explain. It's amazing to me how crazy this sounds now that I type it all out. I didn't realize how much information I've amassed until now. According to DT's memory, there are numerous groups of STS beings parked outside earth's astral field looking for the largest possible number of 3rd density recruits (not 4th density harvest, that's a different issue). They realize because of the sheer number of people (souls) here if they all compete then no one will win. So over the decades these groups have been breaking long-standing grudges amongst each other from long-past conflicts in order to work together and form a plan of attack on this planet, the Vay are only part of that plan. DT's ship itself was assigned south central US as their geogrphical area of influence somehow, he was shown a holographic map of north america and texas and eastward was highlighted as this was all being explained. DT's closest and friend and next-in-command Beelibus was given the task of counceling political leaders in that area on diplomacy issues so as to set the stage for whatever comes next in their overall master plan. This is the type of STS channeling described in the Ra books, I think. Because it all happens through a portal. STS entities are not actually allowed physical entry into earth's atmosphere, more specifically they are not allowed to directly incarnate. (Of course they do slip in past the quarantine, as we all know however, which the Ra books also talk about I think) Beelibus explained to DT before coming here that incarnation was nearly possible however through a type of attachment type of scenario where the incarnated person suffers soul fragmentation and loss over time and little-by-little placeholder STS entities creep in and takes more and more control. DT was told that while his domancy would take place inside an STO oriented human, not to worry, because by his activation date the incarnation (me) would be almost completely cleaned of STO incarnation by others and ready for him to take over.

Needless to say this concerns me and is more than a little troubling.

Very recently DT's own spirit guide visited be and showed me a scene of Bush Sr introducing Bush Jr to Beelibus in a channeling session around the time of Bush Jr's inauguration, telling him to "listen to Beelibus, as he's a valuable resource and excellent friend" It made me think for some time, both Bush's are from Texas, and Texas was DT's ship's assigned area. I'm also from Texas. In fact, I was thinking, I used to see Bush Jr. driving his oldsmobile through my neighborhood as a kid, as he and I both lived in midland texas in the early nineties. I recognized him only because he was coaching a local baseball team at the time so he'd be on the local news now and then. I never thought much of that until the 2000's i began piecing together some sinister things my parents were putting me through during that same time period, called project monarch or monarch programming. It's basically MKUltra mind control done on children. Which during Bush Jr's first term I found out had everything to do with the Bush family and the general NWO heirarchy my own family had membership in. Since then I've wondered if there's more to the story that I just don't remember yet.

It amazes me how little discussion there is online about just how STS beings influence this sphere of incarnation. I'd like to share any information I can about the Vay and shed some light on how they operate to anyone who might find it helpful. The only thing is, I lack credibility, and the information can be spotty and incomplete.
This series is fear-based; designed and presented by the sts elite so that when disclosure happens by our benevolent brothers, there will be great fear. Of course there are ETs among earth's population. Every wanderer on earth is an ET. Every race other than Native Africans are ET's. 9/10 of the planet are ET's lol.
I do believe that this is possible, but I have some extreme doubts that this is a possibility for our planet. Michael Newton documented one case of a soul whose job in the spirit world was to study planetary timelines (histories) and spoke of one planet that was conquered by another alien race (Destiny of Souls p 366-370). In Law of One terms I believe this planet had achieve a negative polarization which attracted that experience. I don't believe events like this can occur in 3rd density or 4th density positive. With the veil in place the only thing negative ETs can do is try to create fear in hopes of helping the population polarize negatively. The good news is that the planet is graduating positive and experiences like this are not going to be a part of our future, if you are a part of the graduation! If you aren't then you may have to watch V again in another 75,000 years somewhere else. If you graduate negatively then maybe this experience is something you may go through...I really have no clue what 4d negative experiences are about, and I really don't care to find out.

Personally, I have no desire to watch fear porn like V or live in fear of the "Vay" or whatever other boogy man there could possibly be out there. It doesn't resonate with me or serve me in any way.
Peregrinus wrote:

“..This series is fear-based; designed and presented by the sts elite so that when disclosure happens by our benevolent brothers, there will be great fear…”


Ditto…

Richard
(05-16-2010, 11:34 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: [ -> ]This series is fear-based; designed and presented by the sts elite so that when disclosure happens by our benevolent brothers, there will be great fear.

I'm a little caught up in the possible sarcasm. If it is our STS brothers you are referring to, isn't this series a part of a gradual disclosure? I'm just thinking if anything like this actually happened, I would imagine people would start taking V, or Heroes, or (I haven't seen it yet but from what I've heard it has some pretty mind-bending, metaphysical concepts) Lost, or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or STAR WARS a little more seriously. In the context of Ra/Q'uo's teachings, these films are based off of more than imagination. They seem to all have some sort of channeled information forming the base of their stories. I once read the Star Wars saga was channeled (intentionally or not, I do not know) by George Lucas, and that's why there are so many parallels between the galactic conflict and the division of STO/STS. O-BE-ONE CAN-ALL-BE (Obiwan Kenobi). JEsus DIsciples (Jedi). The force binding all things with full conscious awareness, making life possible. There are so many more parallels, but I don't want to butcher the examples.

I'm in the middle of the first season. The fear seems to stem from a couple concepts.
1.) Alien technology is far superior (healing, hypothesizing, weapons, spaceships)
Ra states we are already in possession of ships able to travel nearly half the speed of light. Not to mention, I forget the specific term he used for it, but we are also in possession of giant laser cannons. Could it be possible we stage or own "alien" invasion, if we do have a plethora of alien technology in underground bunkers? I doubt it. The possibility is right up there with Nibiru... or are these concepts linked? ConfusedHuh ....getting ahead of myself.

2.) The division of society over the acceptance of aliens
Some people know they're evil, others are enthralled by their capabilities. Government's eyes are glued to their technology so once they get it, they can have more control/power themselves. Released to the private sector means $$$$$$. We all know government is already the biggest STO mask for the elite STS. If something like this ever happened, you better believe our government will respond in the same way.

But the series does have an STO plot via the resistance. Which, personally, I find to be the reason to watch it. S**t's gonna be getting real hairy down here, sooner or later. There's some good ideas and information in the show, if you watch it with the intention of learning how to possibly apply it in your future.
Whatever happens... you have the right to exercise your free will, to choose fear or love. This show wants you to fear, and as thus I will not watch it, for I know there is nothing to fear. Nothing on this earth can truly harm me, though this human body can be harmed and as such I work towards being a good steward of it until I am ready to leave.

The best place to hide the truth is under peoples noses. If the elite desire people to disbelieve, they simply make it into science fiction. In this case, they give the masses a partial truth with a fear-based twist.

Here is a great article on how the elite use mass media to control and influence the masses http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3571
Hahaha, thanks Rich. I guess I was being a little blonde interpreting it. I don't recall any sarcasm in my other posts, but maybe I'm just not susceptible to recognizing it.
Thank you for your input.
But the series does have an STO plot via the resistance. Which, personally, I find to be the reason to watch it. S**t's gonna be getting real hairy down here, sooner or later. There's some good ideas and information in the show, if you watch it with the intention of learning how to possibly apply it in your future.
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Yes, exactly. This is why I started this thread. I was sure people in this forum would understand the value in the show. Especially considering it beautifully illustrates concepts from the Ra material, like rapid 'depolarization' (how the "V" aliens lose their STS polarity very quickly after heavy exposure to STO attitudes in their human contacts on earth.) These are important 4th density concepts to a planet of souls who otherwise would be unequipped to deal with a real "V" scenario.
(05-17-2010, 08:26 AM)jc2412 Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I have no desire to watch fear porn like V or live in fear of the "Vay" or whatever other boogy man there could possibly be out there. It doesn't resonate with me or serve me in any way.

You were talking about Galah, or "Galath" as I think Michael Newton referred to it in Destiny of Souls. I've been there too, lots of souls go there in study groups to learn how to read residual energies (for lack of better words) How is it exactly that an entire planet like Galah can be recruited STS? I wonder this to myself all the time. My opinion is that they lacked discernment. And discernment and fear are two different things.
(05-17-2010, 04:16 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever happens... you have the right to exercise your free will, to choose fear or love. This show wants you to fear, and as thus I will not watch it, for I know there is nothing to fear. Nothing on this earth can truly harm me, though this human body can be harmed and as such I work towards being a good steward of it until I am ready to leave.

The best place to hide the truth is under peoples noses. If the elite desire people to disbelieve, they simply make it into science fiction. In this case, they give the masses a partial truth with a fear-based twist.

Here is a great article on how the elite use mass media to control and influence the masses http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3571

You're assuming that all mass media that is available is intended to control and influence, and then the reasoning works backwards from that. I don't think that's an accurate assessment. There is positivity in mainstream media as well. Avatar, for example. Also, watching a movie or show does not mean you are buying into whatever persuasion you perceive in it. That's something really important. Everything we see in life gives us the opportunity to learn. That includes movies and novels and shows, even political speeches. Understanding is absolutely essential to be kept seperate from wisdom. And as many in 4d find out, it doesn't matter how strongly you polarize STO... if you remain ignorant about STS and how they manipulate and recruit new souls, you likely end up an STS recruit yourself, finding yourself on one of their ships wondering what the heck happened. (and that is bad) The "V" show is a wonderful channeled piece, it exposes some really specific things about the way STS operate. And I think any show or novel or movie that strives to educate 3d or 4d souls on how STS operates, is a GOOD thing (assuming you are STO) and not just fear porn, as someone else put it.

All this aside, if a sci-fi show really makes one feel so afraid, one might be wise to investigate why that is.
(05-19-2010, 01:15 AM)planetz Wrote: [ -> ]The "V" show is a wonderful channeled piece, it exposes some really specific things about the way STS operate. And I think any show or novel or movie that strives to educate 3d or 4d souls on how STS operates, is a GOOD thing (assuming you are STO) and not just fear porn, as someone else put it.

I have to admit that I have hooked into V but I am a sucker for SciFi. I don't know whether I would describe it as wonderful. Maybe disturbing, but also compelling. And also manipulative. There was a scene in the 3rd or 4th episode, where Anna (who is extremely disturbing) gives her bliss. Visually it was quite stunning, while the background music played Sigur Ros. Her bliss consisted of messages of love and unity. But when you realised that this message was coming from an STS source, it was disturbing, for it was an attempt to undermine love and unity. - the cornerstones of the spiritual search.

Interesting that the show suggests that STO polarization is based on the capacity to feel emotion - which humans can do, and the Visitors can't. Or maybe won't.

I don't think you can write it off as being fear porn. Shades of grey
Well put, Planetz. I absolutely loved how they explained and defended planetary unity in Avatar. Great piece of cinema.

I don't think it's fully necessary to watch shows to learn how STS entities work, because a true STO entity should be able to sense the deception behind an STS at work. It could be as easy as deciphering Anna's intentions through her eyebrows or it could as deceptive as the NWO agenda. Tongue I just don't understand how defending against the crimes of the STS is evil in itself. How can we just fold into the opposition and still truly be of service to others?
I agree completely with Peregrinus. I also see confirmation from other STO-channeled sources that claim "V" is a propaganda tool to create negative conditioning in those who watch the series. How? Well, if "aliens" come down, happen to look like us in a human form, claim they "come in peace", and recruit earth citizens to become ambassadors of light and love, don't you think there will be many people scratching their heads and saying, "Hmm, I feel oddly skeptical about the intentions of these beings. This reminds me a lot of that show V, in which there was deception! Therefore, these visitors must have an ulterior motive!"

Even though you and I might see through this, there are many, many, many people who are still sleeping. There are many who allow television and media to shape their own views of life. Would negative conditioning then not be a perfect tool for the "ruling families" who are trying to do all they can to not be defeated by the light?

To me, I don't care what Anna's eyebrows are doing, or whether there is a reptile under a human wrapper. I do care how the message and essence of the show is generally impacting our impressionable brothers and sisters who are waking up and are unsure how to process these changing times.

Steve